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Frank A.  
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 More options Jan 4, 4:14 pm
Newsgroups: opera.general
From: "Frank A." <nomores...@spam.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:14:29 -0600
Local: Mon, Jan 4 2010 4:14 pm
Subject: Layout of Panels options?
Is there any way of controlling the layout of the Email, Feeds, Filters,  
Searches, etc on the Mail panel (F4)?  I never use most of them and its  
cluttering the page.  I think I speak for most users in that they want  
their newsgroups in one area, their email in another, and their feeds in  
another.  Most of us couldn't care less about Attachments, Labels,  
Followed Threads or Filters.  Email - Newsgroups - Feeds.  Opera needs to  
get this better organized.  Also folders need to be able to be implemented  
for email and feeds.   Having all feeds being dumped into one area is  
absurd.  Some of us follow hundreds of feeds.  It enables you to track  
stuff so much more efficiently than stumbling from website to website  
checking for new stuff.  So RSS rocks.  No question.  Now it needs  
organization.

Also for Notes - we need a timer implemented.  So when I write a note, I  
have a reminder available that will give me a visual alert, an audio  
alert, an email alert or a SMS alert to my phone in case I'm out.


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Remco Lanting  
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 More options Jan 4, 4:27 pm
Newsgroups: opera.general
From: "Remco Lanting" <remco.lant...@no.spam.at.gmail.com.please>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:27:18 +0100
Local: Mon, Jan 4 2010 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: Layout of Panels options?

On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:14:29 +0100, Frank A. <nomores...@spam.com> wrote:
> Is there any way of controlling the layout of the Email, Feeds, Filters,  
> Searches, etc on the Mail panel (F4)?  I never use most of them and its  
> cluttering the page.

I think you can manually delete those views from the some .ini file. Never  
done so myself, so you'll need someone else to help you with this.

> I think I speak for most users in that they want their newsgroups in one  
> area, their email in another, and their feeds in another.  Most of us  
> couldn't care less about Attachments, Labels, Followed Threads or  
> Filters.  Email - Newsgroups - Feeds.  Opera needs to get this better  
> organized.  Also folders need to be able to be implemented for email and  
> feeds.   Having all feeds being dumped into one area is absurd.  Some of  
> us follow hundreds of feeds.  It enables you to track stuff so much more  
> efficiently than stumbling from website to website checking for new  
> stuff.  So RSS rocks.  No question.  Now it needs organization.

In Opera you use filters to organise messages. Be it email, newsgroups or  
feeds. There are no folders in Opera for that, and I doubt there ever will  
be. There is one single store for messages (although by account), and  
every access point you see in the panel is a filter. Before going any  
further, I suggest you read the mail tutorial:  
http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/mail/

> Also for Notes - we need a timer implemented.  So when I write a note, I  
> have a reminder available that will give me a visual alert, an audio  
> alert, an email alert or a SMS alert to my phone in case I'm out.

That's a nice idea, but better suited for opera.wishlist. I also think  
there are Unite services available that do this, or similar. It's worth  
checking out.

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Remco Lanting

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Frank A.  
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 More options Jan 5, 2:07 am
Newsgroups: opera.general
From: "Frank A." <nomores...@spam.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:07:34 -0600
Local: Tues, Jan 5 2010 2:07 am
Subject: Re: Layout of Panels options?
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:27:18 -0600, Remco Lanting  

<remco.lant...@no.spam.at.gmail.com.please> wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:14:29 +0100, Frank A. <nomores...@spam.com> wrote:

>> Is there any way of controlling the layout of the Email, Feeds,  
>> Filters, Searches, etc on the Mail panel (F4)?  I never use most of  
>> them and its cluttering the page.

> I think you can manually delete those views from the some .ini file.  
> Never done so myself, so you'll need someone else to help you with this.

Yeah - you're right.  I remember a few years ago editing the Speedial .ini  
list and it worked great.  You can do much with an .ini file.  :)

Thanks for that reminder.  I do need to keep on referring back to it as my  
knowledge in this area increases and I can make more use of that I read.  
But....Opera needs to get with the program.  Every major email program  
allows folders.  Its the natural way to organize things, be it bookmarks,  
files, groups of folders, etc.  Cut and Paste are the magic commands to  
perfect organization.  Opera does it perfectly in Bookmarks.  They just  
need to use the same way of organization for Feeds, Email and Usenet.  And  
Notes...:)

>> Also for Notes - we need a timer implemented.  So when I write a note,  
>> I have a reminder available that will give me a visual alert, an audio  
>> alert, an email alert or a SMS alert to my phone in case I'm out.

> That's a nice idea, but better suited for opera.wishlist. I also think  
> there are Unite services available that do this, or similar. It's worth  
> checking out.

Or Widgets possibly.

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Dapxin  
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 More options Jan 5, 5:11 pm
Newsgroups: opera.general
From: Dapxin <dap...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:11:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 5 2010 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: Layout of Panels options?
Take your time to learn / explore filters. Took me days to figure the
idea out.

Once I did.  wow! Email heaven!


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Frank A.  
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 More options Jan 6, 6:18 am
Newsgroups: opera.general
From: "Frank A." <nomores...@spam.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:18:30 -0600
Local: Wed, Jan 6 2010 6:18 am
Subject: Re: Layout of Panels options?

> Take your time to learn / explore filters. Took me days to figure the
> idea out. Once I did.  wow! Email heaven!

I'm more interested in organizing the hundreds of newsgroups and feeds I'd  
like to follow instead of wasting time on the ad filled web.  I'd just  
like to group like minded usenet groups together.

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Jens Schuessler  
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 More options Jan 6, 6:36 am
Newsgroups: opera.general
From: Jens Schuessler <j...@trash.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:36:52 +0100
Local: Wed, Jan 6 2010 6:36 am
Subject: Re: Layout of Panels options?
* Frank A. <nomores...@spam.com> [06-01-10 11:18]:

>> Take your time to learn / explore filters. Took me days to figure the
>> idea out. Once I did.  wow! Email heaven!

> I'm more interested in organizing the hundreds of newsgroups and feeds I'd  
> like to follow instead of wasting time on the ad filled web.  I'd just  
> like to group like minded usenet groups together.

Seriously, if talking about "hundreds of" I would really consider about using
a real feedreader and a real newsclient for comfort. This Opera toy is pain in
the ass for  these things. Opera should browse, nothing else and reading more
than one usenet group with it's rudimentary client makes me sick.

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Dapxin  
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 More options Jan 7, 5:14 pm
Newsgroups: opera.general
From: Dapxin <dap...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:14:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Jan 7 2010 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Layout of Panels options?
The few times I tried the newsreader too, tbh, I hated it.

But, I recognise too, most of Opera's beauty
in the end,
nearly always derive from its approach of simplicity...

I use google reader.

On Jan 6, 11:36 am, Jens Schuessler <j...@trash.net> wrote:


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