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David Hogan

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May 2, 2004, 7:26:12 PM5/2/04
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Just how does the spam filter work? The first time I used Opera for email,
most spam was untouched, and most bona fide email was lab led as spam.
Also, how does one construct rules? For example, my number one rule is to
put anything with an attachment in a specific folder. How do I do that in
Opera?
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Bill P.

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May 2, 2004, 7:45:34 PM5/2/04
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anything with an attachment is automatically added to an attachments
access point folder depending on type of attachment. Filtering does not
seem to have an available rule based on attachments.

If you create a new folder and click properties you will see the rules
tab->rules, the rules are pretty self evident and there is help available
(F1).

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Using SUSE 9.0, KDE 3.2 & Opera 7.50 beta 1

Geoff Morris

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May 3, 2004, 4:03:23 AM5/3/04
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On Sun, 02 May 2004 19:26:12 -0400, David Hogan
<david...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Just how does the spam filter work?

That's a trade secret! Don't want the spammers to know, do you? :-)


> The first time I used Opera for email, most spam was untouched, and most
> bona fide email was lab led as spam.

Ooh - that's a big shame! Strange.

You don't state which version of Opera you're using - which is quite
important since these are things being worked on at the moment. The
standard settings in 7.5 beta 1 (available from the Opera site) are for
"learning filters", but these were not the standard in slightly older
versions. I think you could select them in 7.23 by right-clicking the spam
view in the mail panel, selecting "learn" in the properties and
(important!) de-selecting any other filters.

Anyway, assuming that they are available they're the best thing to use for
spam. So after switching them on, you can manage spam by going to the spam
view, pressing the un-spam button (or right-click and choose "mark as not
spam") for all the valid mails and clicking the spam button or
right-click, "mark as spam" for all the spam in your other views. You can
also drag & drop mails from one view to another.


> Also, how does one construct rules? For example, my number one rule is
> to put anything with an attachment in a specific folder. How do I do
> that in Opera?

Well, as Bill mentions, there are standard filters for attachments in the
mail panel!

In general though, you can use the drag&drop learning filters, or you can
set your own rules just by creating a new view (right-click the "views" in
7.23 (called "filters" in the latest beta)), right clicking your new
view/filter and filling in the other filter options in the properties.

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Geoff
Sorry about the munged address, too many viruses out there...

Pierpaolo BERNARDI

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May 3, 2004, 7:45:15 AM5/3/04
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In data Mon, 03 May 2004 10:03:23 +0200, Geoff Morris <mossman-at-o...@127.0.0.1> ha scritto:

> On Sun, 02 May 2004 19:26:12 -0400, David Hogan <david...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Just how does the spam filter work?
>
> That's a trade secret! Don't want the spammers to know, do you? :-)
>
>
>> The first time I used Opera for email, most spam was untouched, and most bona fide email was lab led as spam.
>
> Ooh - that's a big shame! Strange.

Exactly the some experience here (opera 7.23).
I had to deactivate the built-in spam filter.

> You don't state which version of Opera you're using - which is quite important since these are things being worked on at the moment. The standard settings in 7.5 beta 1 (available from the Opera site) are for "learning filters", but these were not the standard in slightly older versions. I think you could select them in 7.23 by right-clicking the spam view in the mail panel, selecting "learn" in the properties and (important!) de-selecting any other filters.

I don't see this option in 7.23.

Cheers
P.

Rijk van Geijtenbeek

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May 3, 2004, 10:21:35 AM5/3/04
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On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:45:15 +0200, Pierpaolo BERNARDI
<pier...@SecondBox.net> wrote:
> In data Mon, 03 May 2004 10:03:23 +0200, Geoff Morris ha scritto:

>> On Sun, 02 May 2004 19:26:12 -0400, David Hogan wrote:

>>> Just how does the spam filter work?
>>
>> That's a trade secret! Don't want the spammers to know, do you? :-)
>>
>>> The first time I used Opera for email, most spam was untouched, and
>>> most bona fide email was lab led as spam.
>>
>> Ooh - that's a big shame! Strange.
>
> Exactly the some experience here (opera 7.23).
> I had to deactivate the built-in spam filter.

[.. learning filters ..]

> I don't see this option in 7.23.

It was hidden in 7.23, and I wouldn't recommend people trying to unhide
it. Instead, experimenting with Opera 7.5 beta 1 is a better idea, as the
system has been improved and the UI has been changed to make it easier to
work with.

In Opera 7.23, the internal filters will work much much better when you
add all people who send you legitimate mail to your contacts, which
functions as a kind of 'whitelist'. This is no longer necessary in Opera
7.5.

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