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Peter Boulding

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Apr 21, 2013, 10:35:54 AM4/21/13
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What is the effect of the check box at Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced ->
Content -> Enable plugins only on demand?


What prompted my query (I'm in the UK; not sure if this is available to
those who aren't): go to, for example, <http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/> and
click on the "listen live" link. The BBC's new-style radio player window
opens, but hangs at "Loading..."; no streaming data ever starts to appear.
But the player does work if I first uncheck "Enable plugins only on demand".
Note: This new BBC radio player works OK in two of my other three
browsers--IE7 and SRWare Iron (SRWare Iron is deGoogled Chrome)--but not in
Firefox ... until I disable the Flashblock plugin. (Flashblock, when
enabled, should display a "play" button that would allow the stream, but no
button appears.)


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Whiskers

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Apr 21, 2013, 12:06:51 PM4/21/13
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On 2013-04-21, Peter Boulding <pjbn...@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote:
>
> What is the effect of the check box at Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced ->
> Content -> Enable plugins only on demand?
>
>
> What prompted my query (I'm in the UK; not sure if this is available to
> those who aren't): go to, for example, <http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/> and
> click on the "listen live" link. The BBC's new-style radio player window
> opens, but hangs at "Loading..."; no streaming data ever starts to appear.
> But the player does work if I first uncheck "Enable plugins only on demand".
> Note: This new BBC radio player works OK in two of my other three
> browsers--IE7 and SRWare Iron (SRWare Iron is deGoogled Chrome)--but not in
> Firefox ... until I disable the Flashblock plugin. (Flashblock, when
> enabled, should display a "play" button that would allow the stream, but no
> button appears.)

I see the same problem in Opera (Linux), and also in dwb with
"plugin-blocker=true" set (dwb is a minimalistic browser using WebKit). I
don't use Firefox.

It looks as though the iPlayer needs an interaction from the browser's
Flash plugin before doing whatever it is that prompts the plugin blocker to
offer user interaction, so the whole thing just gets stuck.

I don't think I've ever had Opera's plugin blocker working on the BBC web
site, ever since Opera had that option.

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Peter Boulding

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Apr 21, 2013, 2:01:45 PM4/21/13
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:29:30 -0500, Guy
<Use-Reply-To-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
<A1A974E6F9BDEAC2E...@127.0.0.1>:

>Now on BBC URI, click the "Listen Live" link and the BBC player will
>popup; there is no obvious placeholder. But note the "Lego piece" icon
>in the address bar. Clicking that icon will cause the player to play.

Problem: no address bar in the pop-up. Can get round it, though, by editing
site preferences.
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Ted S.

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Apr 21, 2013, 9:15:06 PM4/21/13
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:01:45 +0100, Peter Boulding wrote:

> Problem: no address bar in the pop-up.

Doesn't Ctrl+F8 bring up the address bar? I'm using the 9.2-compatible
keyboard shortcuts, though, so things might be different for you.

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Peter Boulding

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Apr 22, 2013, 6:28:54 AM4/22/13
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:15:55 -0500, Guy
<Use-Reply-To-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
<A1A986F148D91EAC2E...@127.0.0.1>:

>Peter Boulding wrote:
>
>> Guy:
>>
>>> Now on BBC URI, click the "Listen Live" link and the BBC player
>>> will popup; there is no obvious placeholder. But note the "Lego
>>> piece" icon in the address bar. Clicking that icon will cause the
>>> player to play.

>> Problem: no address bar in the pop-up.

>I don't know you configuration. I use one address bar;
>the address bar belongs to the tab with focus.
> <http://i.imgur.com/isHpWlu.png>.

OK--point taken; I thought the pop-up was a window, but it isn't: it appears
to be a much-tweaked tab with its own tab in the tab bar--although the
address shown in the address bar is, on my XP SP3 system, the same as that
of the page from which it was invoked.

But: on my system this tab ain't quite the same as in your illustration:
<http://i36.tinypic.com/2dv217a.jpg>

Note the little bar immediately below the pop-up's title bar--the one that
reads "www.bbc.co.uk": if I click on it, it turns into an address bar ...
and if I then expand the pop-up by dragging one of its vertical edges, I can
see its true address--which is NOT the address showing in the main Opera
Window's address bar, even though the pop-up's tab is selected:
<http://i38.tinypic.com/ohmqsn.jpg>

In other words this weird pop-up is really a floating tab; the BBC's coders
have tried hard to suppress its address bar and to make it as difficult as
possible to find out its true address, at least on my system.

What a horrid piece of code.
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