Opera and Sandboxie: Can they work together?
Whoosh
Whoosh
>> and its using a lot of CPU resources unSandboxed.
>> I sure wish Sandboxie would make their folder system more intuitive.
>
> Right click on the sandboxie icon in the tray and select [Show Window]
> then under Sandbox (up at the top) - DefaultBox - Sandbox Settings -
> Program Start click the + to open the two choices - Forced Programs -
> Add By Name [Opera.exe] in the 'Enter Program' field, OK, OK, right
> click the tray icon to [Hide Window].
> When you next start Opera it should be sandboxed.
Getting Opera Sandboxed is easy. Working with files within that Sandbox is a headache. I wonder if there is any way of being able to save stuff outside of the Sandbox? Maybe that would defeat the purpose of the Sandbox. So I just setup a download folder and a shortcut to it from the Start menu.
Whoever devised the "Documents and Settings" folder should be banished to a far off land and never allowed to touch a computer for the rest of their lives. Its just so moronic from star to finish. Its like these people don't have a clue how to organize, how to name, how to differentiate or how to group things logically. Its like they are spatially retarded. And its exactly the same in the OS X world of Apple - zero spatial logic or organization. Its unbelievably frustrating for normal thinking people. One wonders how these people would organize a filing cabinet. HINT: All settings for all programs should in 1 folder called SETTINGS. Nothing else. What has a document got to to with a setting for a program? Idiots! This is why most of the population only uses 1% of their computer's capabilities. Its the retards that can't organize the program properly. Imagine buying a toaster and spending 10 hours trying to learn all its capabilities. If the features are not organized
clearly from the start the design is poor. Rant over.....
Whoosh
>> Working with files within that Sandbox is a headache.
>> I wonder if there is any way of being able to save stuff outside of the Sandbox?
>
> location, paste.
The problem is with Microsoft's retarded layout you often have to wade 5 or more layers deep to get anywhere. Its such a waste of time. My shortcut works fine but I don't want to have to use a shortcut with everything.
Here's a question: I wonder how much of Program Files you can run in a Sandbox? Everything? Why not put everything you're running in the Sandbox? I wonder what its limitations are for running concurrent programs?
>> Maybe that would defeat the purpose of the Sandbox.
>
> Yes, but hopefully you know what you're doing with such files.
LOL....hopefully. Eghads.....I'm doomed. I never realized "knowing what I'm doing" is a prerequisite for digital success in the computer world.
>> So I just setup a download folder and a shortcut to it from the Start menu.
>
> And if your sandboxed browser downloads to it,
> you should get a recovery notice at the end of the download.
Maybe I disabled that somehow. Sometimes I get a notice that it can make a file available elsewhere. Is that the recovery notice you're talking about? It seems sporadic. I better check those settings. Oddly, Sandboxie places the settings within a menu item. Many people will use the program for weeks without running across it. What were they thinking? Great premise, lousy execution. Hopefully they'll organize it better in future updates. Its an amazing idea though for virus protection. Maybe they're waiting for the big call from Microsoft to buy them out.
Arioch
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> The problem is with Microsoft's retarded layout you often have to wade 5
> or more layers deep to get anywhere.
you think, Linux is way better ?
comparing tables, don't see that much of difference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Folders#List_of_special_folders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard#Directory_structure
Open forum:
http://forum.gobolinux.org/discussion/194/thoughts-on-gobolinux/
Search for magic letters "FHS" and see how people rant against it just as
you do against Windows folders tree :-)
Whoosh
>> 5 or more layers deep to get anywhere.
>
> you think, Linux is way better ?
> comparing tables, don't see that much of difference
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Folders#List_of_special_folders
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard#Directory_structure
> Open forum:
> http://forum.gobolinux.org/discussion/194/thoughts-on-gobolinux/
> Search for magic letters "FHS" and see how people rant against it just
> as you do against Windows folders tree :-)
For the life of me I don't understand why software OS designers cannot
organize the filing system in a logical manner, especially for backups.
Everything one needs (options/preferences/settings) should be in one area
so when you download the newest version for your new install you don't
have to go into hundreds of screens to reset things to your own
preferences. 1 folder for settings. The programs have updates, the
settings rarely change.
Arioch
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> Everything one needs (options/preferences/settings) should be in one area
A-ha... so-called Application Folders
http://roscidus.com/desktop/AppDirs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_directory
That was really simple in old times of DOS, Windows 3 and Macintosh OS
classic
When there was no security, no real (isolating programs of each other)
mutlitasking
And when you could not have two persons on a computer (ok, you could
install two instances of Win 3 on dicks c: and d:, but hardly Apple users
could have installed several copies of their OS :-)
Then many programs, Opera itself as well, had its settings, and even its
cache in \Program Files
Surely, if you wanted some other user have Opera on your computer - you
had to install it once again in another folder.
Really, now when some programs, like MS Office and Photoshop and
video-editing and some programming suite (Borland Developer Studio) takes
hundreds of medabytes and even gigabytes on disk, should we have install
them again and again for each new user ? And then updates rolled out - we
both would download those new versions each one on its own ? And what
would do your grandma, who cannot grasp what is "update", "download" and
"install", and how to do it and where ?
And should my settings and your setting reside in same folder. so each of
us could sneak and even fake each other's settings? Does your Opera store
your passwords in Wand ? i copy the wand and have them.
Then, from small self-contained app like Opera let think about something
communicating, co-operating. Like Flash plugin :-)
Same plugin should work in Opera, in Firefox, in SeaMonkey, and possibly
in Chrome and Safari - install it 5 times ? and update everywhere ?
You see, App Folders idea is really very simple, but not because it
elegantly answers questions, but because it pretends questions never
existed.
Really, had you eaten an apple, i would not eat it - i would have another
one. Had you eaten an apple, you would not upgrade it in a month. That is
that idea. Simple and easy. Lego-like. Alas, it also asks to simplify all
programs and all users to a model of single person playing with small
simple lego-bricks: never changing, never acting, never co-operating.
Aaron W. Hsu
>For the life of me I don't understand why software OS designers cannot
>organize the filing system in a logical manner, especially for backups.
>Everything one needs (options/preferences/settings) should be in one area
>so when you download the newest version for your new install you don't
>have to go into hundreds of screens to reset things to your own
>preferences. 1 folder for settings. The programs have updates, the
>settings rarely change.
This has been standard practice on most Operating systems for quite a
while now. On UNIX based system, the home folder stores all your
settings, and you just back that up. If you want system settings, that's
one other folder. You don't want to mix user with system settings, but
other than that, it works very easily. If you are on Windows, everything
after and including XP uses this methodology for user settings. If you
want to store system settings, well, that's not supported very easily,
but they provide programs to do the merging.
On OpenBSD for example, if I want to back up my system and be assured
that I haven't missed anything settings wise, I just do this:
$ rsync -avz /etc /home /backup_dir
If I care about system logs or other things, which usually I don't, I
can add /var into it. If I were running a server, I would usually back
up /var too, but that's not too hard, is it?
Aaron W. Hsu
--
A professor is one who talks in someone else's sleep.
Brixomatic
> Whoever devised the "Documents and Settings" folder should be banished to a far off land and never allowed to touch a computer for the rest of their lives. Its just so moronic from star to finish. Its like these people don't have a clue how to organize, how to name, how to differentiate or how to group things logically. Its like they are spatially retarded. And its exactly the same in the OS X world of Apple - zero spatial logic or organization. Its unbelievably
frustrating for normal thinking people. One wonders how these people would organize a filing cabinet. HINT: All settings for all programs should in 1 folder called SETTINGS. Nothing else. What has a document got to to with a setting for a program? Idiots! This is why most of the population only uses 1% of their computer's capabilities. Its the retards that can't organize the program properly. Imagine buying a toaster and spending 10 hours trying to learn all its
capabilities. If the features are not organized
> clearly from the start the design is poor. Rant over.....
Linux, Solaris, QNX, AIX, FreeBSD and Mac OS X have a user home
directory, and often they contain hidden ".whatever" directories for user
settings and data. Windows has it too.
Yeah, you are right and the whole industry is wrong.
Time to adjust your viewpoint, I guess.
Reards,
-Wanja-
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