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Paul Weiss

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Feb 1, 2007, 5:33:16 PM2/1/07
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I forget. What do I do when Opera gets confused about my email indexing:

(i) Contacts display unrelated messages and miss the actual messages
they've sent.
(ii) Searches display messages that don't have the word or phrase.

Wasn't there a way to tell Opera to reindex the whole thing?

-P

Gunnar

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Feb 2, 2007, 3:26:49 AM2/2/07
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Paul Weiss <pa...@weiss.name> wrote:

Close Opera
Backup mail folder
Delete mail\indexer folder
Restart Opera
Wait... :)

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Rijk van Geijtenbeek

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Feb 2, 2007, 5:01:59 AM2/2/07
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Op Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:26:49 +0100 schreef Gunnar <gun...@arcor.de>:

For a reindex, I'd recommend renaming the Lexicon folder instead. That way
there can be no data loss. By removing the Indexer folder, you'll lose
data (like the content of labels and filters).

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Tim Altman

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Feb 2, 2007, 3:00:08 PM2/2/07
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Do *NOT* delete the indexer folder. You want to delete the lexicon
folder. If you delete the indexer folder, you'll lose all custom
filters.

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Paul Weiss

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Feb 2, 2007, 4:21:00 PM2/2/07
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On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:00:08 -0500, Tim Altman <do....@spam.me.invalid>
wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:26:49 +0100, Gunnar <gun...@arcor.de> wrote:
>
>> Paul Weiss <pa...@weiss.name> wrote:
>>
>>> I forget. What do I do when Opera gets confused about my email
>>> indexing:
>>>
>>> (i) Contacts display unrelated messages and miss the actual messages
>>> they've sent.
>>> (ii) Searches display messages that don't have the word or phrase.
>>>
>>> Wasn't there a way to tell Opera to reindex the whole thing?
>>
>> Close Opera
>> Backup mail folder
>> Delete mail\indexer folder
>> Restart Opera
>> Wait... :)
>
> Do *NOT* delete the indexer folder. You want to delete the lexicon
> folder. If you delete the indexer folder, you'll lose all custom
> filters.
>


Thanks all. I renamed the lexicon folder as suggested. To my surprise,
the size decreased significantly:

[Mail] pgwlt| du -sh lexicon*
49M lexicon
140M lexicon-old


Should I be surprised? Concerned?

-P

Gunnar

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Feb 3, 2007, 1:39:43 PM2/3/07
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Tim Altman <do....@spam.me.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:26:49 +0100, Gunnar <gun...@arcor.de> wrote:
>
>> Paul Weiss <pa...@weiss.name> wrote:
>>
>>> I forget. What do I do when Opera gets confused about my email
>>> indexing:
>>>
>>> (i) Contacts display unrelated messages and miss the actual messages
>>> they've sent.
>>> (ii) Searches display messages that don't have the word or phrase.
>>>
>>> Wasn't there a way to tell Opera to reindex the whole thing?
>>
>> Close Opera
>> Backup mail folder
>> Delete mail\indexer folder
>> Restart Opera
>> Wait... :)
>
> Do *NOT* delete the indexer folder. You want to delete the lexicon
> folder. If you delete the indexer folder, you'll lose all custom
> filters.

Thanks for correcting me. Seems I was a little confused.

There should be a GUI option for reindexing (or better a more robust
index).

Bronken indexes are a _very_ common problem in Opera. This have to be
fixed!

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Remco Lanting

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Feb 3, 2007, 2:05:28 PM2/3/07
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:39:43 +0100, Gunnar <gun...@arcor.de> wrote:

> There should be a GUI option for reindexing (or better a more robust
> index).
>
> Bronken indexes are a _very_ common problem in Opera. This have to be
> fixed!

And it will :) From opera.mail+news:

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:36:03 +0100, Tim Altman <do....@spam.me.invalid>
wrote:

> The storage format isn't changing, just the indexer. The indexer is
> responsible for searching and making sure messages show up in the
> correct place.

There is no ETA on that though :(

Remco

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Paul Weiss

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Apr 11, 2007, 3:51:49 PM4/11/07
to Rijk van Geijtenbeek
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:01:59 -0500, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
<ri...@opera.removethiz.com> wrote:

> Op Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:26:49 +0100 schreef Gunnar <gun...@arcor.de>:
>
>> Paul Weiss <pa...@weiss.name> wrote:
>>
>>> I forget. What do I do when Opera gets confused about my emailindexing:
>>>
>>> (i) Contacts display unrelated messages and miss the actual messages
>>> they've sent.
>>> (ii) Searches display messages that don't have the word or phrase.
>>>
>>> Wasn't there a way to tell Opera to reindex the whole thing?
>>
>> Close Opera
>> Backup mail folder
>> Delete mail\indexer folder
>> Restart Opera
>> Wait... :)
>
> For a reindex, I'd recommend renaming the Lexicon folder instead. That
> way there can be no data loss. By removing the Indexer folder, you'll
> lose data (like the content of labels and filters).
>


Sorry to reply to such an old posting but my indexing is messed up once
again. Now it is not the search folders that are messed up, but rather
email messages that are showing up inside the newsgroup folders. Is it
still enough to delete lexicon, or do I have to also delete indexer?
Exactly what will I lose if I delete indexer? You mentioned the content
of filters ... does this apply to filters that are purely rule-based or
only "learn from messages added or deleted" filters?

Thanks.

-P

David W. Hodgins

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Apr 11, 2007, 4:22:34 PM4/11/07
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:51:49 -0400, Paul Weiss <pa...@weiss.name> wrote:

> Sorry to reply to such an old posting but my indexing is messed up once
> again. Now it is not the search folders that are messed up, but rather
> email messages that are showing up inside the newsgroup folders. Is it
> still enough to delete lexicon, or do I have to also delete indexer?
> Exactly what will I lose if I delete indexer? You mentioned the content
> of filters ... does this apply to filters that are purely rule-based or
> only "learn from messages added or deleted" filters?

My understanding is that the rules for both types of filters would be lost.
I would not delete the index folders.

If re-indexing, by deleting just the lexicon folder doesn't work, see
http://groups.google.ca/group/opera.mail+news/msg/cc299ecb18f1a731?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Tim Altman

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Apr 11, 2007, 9:23:52 PM4/11/07
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:51:49 -0400, "Paul Weiss" <pa...@weiss.name>
wrote:

>On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:01:59 -0500, Rijk van Geijtenbeek

><ri...@opera.removethiz.com> wrote:
>
>> Op Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:26:49 +0100 schreef Gunnar <gun...@arcor.de>:
>>
>>> Paul Weiss <pa...@weiss.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I forget. What do I do when Opera gets confused about my emailindexing:
>>>>
>>>> (i) Contacts display unrelated messages and miss the actual messages
>>>> they've sent.
>>>> (ii) Searches display messages that don't have the word or phrase.
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't there a way to tell Opera to reindex the whole thing?
>>>
>>> Close Opera
>>> Backup mail folder
>>> Delete mail\indexer folder
>>> Restart Opera
>>> Wait... :)
>>
>> For a reindex, I'd recommend renaming the Lexicon folder instead. That
>> way there can be no data loss. By removing the Indexer folder, you'll
>> lose data (like the content of labels and filters).
>
>Sorry to reply to such an old posting but my indexing is messed up once
>again. Now it is not the search folders that are messed up, but rather
>email messages that are showing up inside the newsgroup folders. Is it
>still enough to delete lexicon, or do I have to also delete indexer?

It should be, yes.

>Exactly what will I lose if I delete indexer? You mentioned the content
>of filters ... does this apply to filters that are purely rule-based or
>only "learn from messages added or deleted" filters?

I don't know the exact details, but the following could break:
- search views
- contact views
- filters (all types, including messages manually moved to filters)
- mailing lists

Basically, anything that relies on indexes to go to the correct place.

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