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titband_com  
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 More options Jun 10 2012, 11:33 pm
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:33:01 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Jun 10 2012 11:33 pm
Subject: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
I'm trying to make some cool 3d environments and communities for my
band ( Tortured In Toyland ) and other bands, so if your good at this
3D thing maybe we can network, email me at: titb...@gmail.com

My wonderland info can be found at:  www.titband.com/ve.htm

As for my current problem and question...  I'm trying to load the OWL2
Domonstration page at:

http://owf2.virtualnorthstar.org:8080/

and i'm getting the black screen. I'll post the error log.

I also am curious if after I press the "launch" button if it is
supposed to take me to the page I launched it from because it is not.
There is nothing in the URL bar.. unless I run a server and join in
from the computer I'm hosting from.

I would also like to know if it wouild be possible to make a module
where people can have weapons and do damage to each other and when
they die they die and reload after a little while.

Anyway...  email me if you want to collaborate and network and link
sites and such..

--- ERROR LOG FROM ATTEMPT OF: http://owf2.virtualnorthstar.org:8080/"
----

Error report generated Jun 10, 2012 11:29:02 PM

-------- System Information --------
Java version: 1.7.0_04
Java vendor:Oracle Corporation
OS:Windows XP
OS version: 5.1
OS architecture: x86

Max memory: 530186240
Total memory: 127533056
Free memory: 80889960

-------- Graphics Information --------
Display adapter:  null
Display vendor:   Intel
Driver version:   null
Display renderer: Intel 865G
API Version:      1.3.0 - Build 4.14.10.4396

GL_ARB_fragment_program...false
GL_ARB_fragment_shader...false
GL_ARB_shader_objects...false
GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two...false
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object...true
GL_ARB_vertex_program...true
GL_ARB_vertex_shader...false
GL_MAX_COMBINED_TEXTURE_IMAGE_UNITS_ARB...0
GL_MAX_FRAGMENT_UNIFORM_COMPONENTS_ARB...0
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_COORDS_ARB...8
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_IMAGE_UNITS_ARB...16
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_MAX_ANISOTROPY_EXT...2.0
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS...4
GL_MAX_VARYING_FLOATS_ARB...0
GL_MAX_VERTEX_ATTRIBS_ARB...16
GL_MAX_VERTEX_TEXTURE_IMAGE_UNITS_ARB...0
GL_MAX_VERTEX_UNIFORM_COMPONENTS_ARB...0
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap...true
GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION_ARB...
GL_VERSION_1_2...true
GL_VERSION_2_0...false
GL_VERSION_2_1...false
GL_VERSION_3_0...false

-------- Error Log --------
WARNING 11:13:19 PM org.jdesktop.wonderland.client.jme.Webstart
webstartSetup
Running from Java Web Start. Performing setup.
WARNING 11:13:34 PM
org.jdesktop.wonderland.client.assetmgr.AssetManager$AssetLoader
doAssetDownload
Failed to download asset from this stream wlj://SubSnapshots/client/SubSnapshots-client.jar
java.util.zip.ZipException: duplicate entry: org/jdesktop/wonderland/
modules/subsnapshots/client/resources/Bundle.properties
        at java.util.zip.ZipOutputStream.putNextEntry(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.jar.JarOutputStream.putNextEntry(Unknown Source)
        at com.sun.deploy.net.HttpDownloadHelper.decompressWrite(Unknown
Source)
        at com.sun.deploy.net.HttpDownloadHelper.download(Unknown Source)
        at com.sun.deploy.cache.Cache$4.run(Unknown Source)
        at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
        at com.sun.deploy.cache.Cache.downloadResourceToCache(Unknown Source)
        at com.sun.deploy.cache.DeployFileOutputStream.close(Unknown Source)
        at java.io.FilterOutputStream.close(Unknown Source)
        at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection
$HttpInputStream.close(Unknown Source)
        at java.io.BufferedInputStream.close(Unknown Source)
        at java.io.FilterInputStream.close(Unknown Source)
        at
org.jdesktop.wonderland.client.assetmgr.TrackingInputStream.close(TrackingI nputStream.java:
149)
        at
org.jdesktop.wonderland.client.assetmgr.AssetManager.loadAssetFromServer(As setManager.java:
398)
        at org.jdesktop.wonderland.client.assetmgr.AssetManager.access
$400(AssetManager.java:74)
        at org.jdesktop.wonderland.client.assetmgr.AssetManager
$AssetLoader.doAssetDownload(AssetManager.java:687)
        at org.jdesktop.wonderland.client.assetmgr.AssetManager
$AssetLoader.call(AssetManager.java:628)
        at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
WARNING 11:13:34 PM
org.jdesktop.wonderland.common.utils.ScannedClassLoader createDB
Error scanning [wlj://jmecolladaloa...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/
jmecolladaloader-client.jar,
wlj://cell-performance-vie...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/cell-performance-viewer-client.jar,
wlj://Sitta...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/Sittable-client.jar,
wlj://SubSnapsh...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/SubSnapshots-client.jar,
wlj://stickyn...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/stickynote-client.jar,
wlj://screensh...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/screenshare-client.jar,
wlj://collada-ava...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/collada-avatar-client.jar,
wlj://xapps-con...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/xapps-config-client.jar,
wlj://placemarks-...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/placemarks-api-client.jar,
wlj://content-reposit...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/contentrepo-client.jar,
wlj://pale...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/palette-client.jar,
wlj://affordan...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/affordances-client.jar,
wlj://presencemana...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/presencemanager-client.jar,
wlj://admin-to...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/admin-tools-client.jar,
wlj://security-gro...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/securitygroups-client.jar,
wlj://core-h...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/core-help-client.jar,
wlj://cellselect...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/cellselection-client.jar,
wlj://placema...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/placemarks-client.jar,
wlj://best-v...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/best-view-client.jar,
wlj://ph...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/phone-client.jar,
wlj://coneofsile...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/coneofsilence-client.jar,
wlj://EZCl...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/EZClick-client.jar,
wlj://avatarb...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/avatars.jar,
wlj://avatarb...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/avatarbase-client.jar,
wlj://container-c...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/container-cell-client.jar,
wlj://asset-me...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/asset-meter-client.jar,
wlj://defaultenvironm...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/defaultenvironment-client.jar,
wlj://secur...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/security-client.jar,
wlj://movierecor...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/movierecorder-client.jar,
wlj://movierecor...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/jmf.jar,
wlj://telepoin...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/telepointermodule-client.jar,
wlj://tooltip-compon...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/tooltip-component-client.jar,
wlj://por...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/portal-client.jar,
wlj://...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/sas-client.jar,
wlj://mtgloa...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/mtgloader-client.jar,
wlj://appb...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/appbase-client-cell.jar,
wlj://appb...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/appbase-client.jar,
wlj://sharedst...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/sharedstate-client.jar,
wlj://...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/hud-client.jar,
wlj://microph...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/microphone-client.jar,
wlj://whitebo...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/whiteboard-client.jar,
wlj://whitebo...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/xml-apis-ext.jar,
wlj://whitebo...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/xml-apis.jar,
wlj://whitebo...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/batik-all.jar,
wlj://celledi...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/celleditor-client.jar,
wlj://pdfvie...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/pdfviewer-client.jar,
wlj://pdfvie...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/PDFRenderer.jar,
wlj://imagevie...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/imageviewer-client.jar,
wlj://viewpropert...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/viewproperties-client.jar,
wlj://evolver-avatar-multim...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/xom.jar,
wlj://evolver-avatar-multim...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/evolver-avatar-multimesh-client.jar,
wlj://evolver-avatar-multim...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/nux.jar,
wlj://pos...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/poster-client.jar,
wlj://artimp...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/ant-launcher.jar,
wlj://artimp...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/artimport-client.jar,
wlj://artimp...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/ant.jar,
wlj://xrem...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/xremwin-client-cell.jar,
wlj://xrem...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/xremwin-client.jar,
wlj://xrem...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/escher-0.2.2.lg.jar,
wlj://marble...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/marbleous-client.jar,
wlj://videopla...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/videoplayer-client.jar,
wlj://videopla...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/wonderland-video.jar,
wlj://quickstartgu...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/quickstartguide-client.jar,
wlj://animationb...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/animationbase-client.jar,
wlj://animationb...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/trident.jar,
wlj://context-m...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/contextmenu-client.jar,
wlj://top-placem...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/top-placement-client.jar,
wlj://clickable-l...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/clickable-link-client.jar,
wlj://presentation-b...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/presentation-base-client.jar,
wlj://web...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/webdavclient4j-core-0.92.jar,
wlj://web...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/webdav-client.jar,
wlj://web...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/jdom-1.0.jar,
wlj://audiorecor...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/audiorecorder-client.jar,
wlj://webcamvie...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/cambozola.jar,
wlj://webcamvie...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/webcamviewer-client.jar,
wlj://textc...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/textchat-client.jar,
wlj://quick-refere...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/quick-reference-client.jar,
wlj://kmzloa...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/kmzloader-client.jar,
wlj://...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/orb-client.jar,
wlj://colladaloa...@199.17.224.201:8080/client/colladaloader-client.jar, ...

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 2:41 am
From: Ric Moore <wayward4...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:41:10 -0400
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 2:41 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
On 06/10/2012 11:33 PM, titband_com wrote:

Same error here when I try the OWL public server. Black screen, nothing
in the URL bar. Works fine locally. Java 7 again. Ric

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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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 More options Jun 11 2012, 9:31 am
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:31:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 9:31 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
Are you saying it's a problem with using Java 7?  Well, I guess I can
make older versions of java needed, or whatever other special stuff
visitors will need available to people I invite for events but it does
add to the hassle a bit. People don't want to have to download a lot
of extra stuff to get rolling.

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 9:39 am
From: Carlos Rafael Ramirez <crrami...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:39:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 9:39 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )

Well,

I am trying in http://owf2.virtualnorthstar.org:8080/  and I get black
screen also but I am not using Java 7

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 9:42 am
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:42:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 9:42 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
Any luck trying mine?

http://192.168.15.100:8080/

I'll try yours if your trying to host something.

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 9:52 am
From: Carlos Rafael Ramirez <crrami...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:52:50 -0500
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 9:52 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )

Yes i tried yours but I can't even enter to the web page. It looks like a
firewall issue.

Thanks for your offer sure I will send you a link when I am testing my
server

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 10:11 am
From: Jos Flores <josmasflo...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:11:07 +0100
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 10:11 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
Guys, owf2 seems to be a bit sick right now, please use owf1.

titband, yours does not seem to be online (or at least visible from
the internet).

cheers,
Jos

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 10:12 am
From: Jos Flores <josmasflo...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:12:54 +0100
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 10:12 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
I've just realised your server is on a 192.168.X.X ip range.
that range is for your internal network use only. You will need a
public IP address if you want to run a server on the internet.

cheers,
José

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 12:00 pm
From: Morris Ford <morrishf...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:00:09 -0400
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )

In your original post part of it is

GL_VERSION_1_2...true
GL_VERSION_2_0...false
GL_VERSION_2_1...false
GL_VERSION_3_0...false

which indicates that your system has opengl version 1.2. 2.0 or greater is
required if I remember correctly. This usually indicates that you need to
install more up to date video drivers.

Am I correct. Its been a while since I dealt with this.

Morris

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 12:07 pm
From: Jos Flores <josmasflo...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:07:41 +0100
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 12:07 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
Hey Morris, I think 1.2 should be enough although the quality would be
sluggish, but there's something wrong with owf2 right now (probably
that it hasn't been updated in ages!). I cannot login myself, but I
can log in to owf1. Will ask Jon and Nicole if it's OK to restart it.

In any case, Morris' advice is totally recommended even if 1.2 is
enough (which I'm not a 100% sure!)

cheers,
José

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 2:03 pm
From: Jonathan Kaplan <jonathan...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:03:26 -0700
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )

A couple of points:

1. the issues with Java 7 have to do with duplicate entries in a few jar
files. These are known and fixed, but it appears some old versions of
modules are still floating around. In particular, the subsnapshot module in
the module warehouse seems to have the problem.

2. owf2 is very old. It definitely needs a full update, but I don't know
when that is likely to happen.

3. the OpenGL checks at the beginning of the error log are not totally
reliable. For example, my ATI card reports OpenGL version 1.2 only, even
though it actually support OpenGL 4.0. We use a bunch of different checks
to try to get the best graphics that are *actually* supported by a given
card. All that said, the error report indicates an Intel 865G graphics
card, which apparently performed poorly when it was reviewed in 2003:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/1106/5

Unless this is a significantly updated machine, it seems very unlikely to
work.

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 11:06 pm
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:06:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
I didn't do a search yet but just for the sake of making it easier for
more users trying to fix things..   do you have a link or something
for creating a public IP address? All I'm doing so far is just
starting it off like this:

"\Program Files\Java\jdk1.7.0_04\bin\java" -jar Wonderland.jar

and thats it.

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 11:09 pm
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:09:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 11:09 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
I've returned from google and it says my Public IP is:
173.49.177.137

Going to:  http://173.49.177.137:8080/  doesn't do anything.

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 11:26 pm
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:26:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 11:26 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
If my graphics card is not good enough, why am I able to connect to a
wonderland that I'm hosting?

Is there a page or a program or something available that checks the
computers system and tells you if your system is able to run or
participate in a wonderland evnironment?  It would be nice if it would
say "You need to update this driver, here's a link to one that will
work." or "You need more ram" or Java or some kind of windows
framework or whatever it needs? I'd like to make it as easy as
possible for visitors to get what they need to participate in the 3d
world.

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 More options Jun 11 2012, 11:40 pm
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:40:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 11:40 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
Ok..  that is one problem down..

http://owf1.virtualnorthstar.org:8080  works for me, so atleast I know
I can connect to properly configured wonderlands..

Now I just need to figure out.. or find out.. how to deal with this
public IP issue and learn how to configure my own environment
properly.

What is the password for the virtual phone? It looks like a neat
feature.

Do you know if there is a way to customise the open wonderland web
front screen?

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 More options Jun 12 2012, 12:09 am
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:09:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 12:09 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
I don't have any virus protection or fire wall programs installed..
Even the windows firewall is deactive.

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From: Ric Moore <wayward4...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:36:31 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 2:36 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
On 06/12/2012 12:09 AM, titband_com wrote:

> I don't have any virus protection or fire wall programs installed..
> Even the windows firewall is deactive.

Well you need a static IP or subscribe to one of those dyndns outfits
that will direct users to your dynamic IP address. Plus, you will need
the Server Edition of Windows to legitimately serve to the net. And a
license, etc. Then you configure your OWL server to serve to the dyndns
service that you could use or the static IP address. Some basic
Networking Skills research would be helpful. You are setting up a
networked server. Of, you might consider a hosted server. Several have
been mentioned in this forum. Google will drag up those threads. Have
fun! Ric

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 More options Jun 12 2012, 6:00 am
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 6:00 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
Is it easier to serve from a Linux environment? If I serve on a linux
machine visitors can visit using Mac or Windows right? That is
probably going to be the best way to go.

Do you know of anyone having success with running a cooperative linux
environment in windows xp and serving through the linux?

I found this and was curious if it would help.

http://www.colinux.org/

I was going to go the apache route but after a quick search I see it
is pretty pointless.

Thanks for any advice you can give with this, once I get it up and
running do you want a link back to your owl?

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From: Ric Moore <wayward4...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:17:36 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
On 06/12/2012 05:17 AM, titband_com wrote:

> Ok, I'm getting the apache http server now. Since I don't have a
> windows server edition OS I'll have to see if this apache thing can
> help.

Ah... you'll be breaking your "User Contract" and be wide open for civil
penalties. Best purchase your Server Edition first. Ric

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From: Ric Moore <wayward4...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:27:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
On 06/12/2012 06:00 AM, titband_com wrote:

> Is it easier to serve from a Linux environment? If I serve on a linux
> machine visitors can visit using Mac or Windows right? That is
> probably going to be the best way to go.

> Do you know of anyone having success with running a cooperative linux
> environment in windows xp and serving through the linux?

Running Linux via Windows would still require a Win Server Edition.
You'd be better served using Linux on it's own partition and just
running that cleanly. Keep in mind that even LinkedIn got busted wide
open. OWL is not an application. It is a server. So, you need to have a
basic understanding not only of networking, but networking security as
well.

I'm not concerned with security issues at the moment at all, as I do not
run OWL facing the Internet. Nor is OWL out of Beta yet, so security
issues are on the back burner, unless you have a devel team to work on
that in-house ...as do the Universities, etc. I'd suggest just having
fun with it, for now, and do your basic housekeeping and building local
for now. No one will have the time to spare to individually teach you.
I'm still learning myself ...and I wouldn't put my machine at-risk by
facing the Internet for anything. Have fun, enjoy. Ric

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 More options Jun 12 2012, 11:39 pm
From: Nicole Yankelovich <nic...@yankelovich.ws>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:39:27 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 11:39 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
Here is a list of Open Wonderland related videos:

http://faithhold.dyndns.org:8080/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Wonderland%20V...

The list needs to be updated, but it's only a few months out-of-date.

Nicole.

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 More options Jun 12 2012, 11:43 pm
From: Nicole Yankelovich <nic...@yankelovich.ws>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:43:32 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 12 2012 11:43 pm
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
The virtual phone isn't hooked up. To use it, you need to connect your
server to the phone network. Here's the documentation:

http://faithhold.dyndns.org:8080/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Connecting%20t...

> Do you know if there is a way to customise the open wonderland web
> front screen?

It's just an html page, which you can edit, but it does require
re-compiling code in order to install the new page.

Nicole.

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 More options Jun 13 2012, 12:22 am
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:22:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 13 2012 12:22 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
What Linux distribution or build version is the OWL1 using. I'm just
now realizing there are so many versions.  I guess to get partitioning
I would tell my Bootup setup to boot from the CD drive first then have
a disk with a burned ISO of that Linux ( if thats what its using ) and
then it would ask me about creating and installing to a new partition
right?  I'll watch those videos right now.

I also saw something about if I go Linux I will need to get JDK6 not
JDK7 because there is some incompatibility issues using shared
applications or something like that.

I'm going to be setting up a partition so it doesn't matter to me what
kind of set up I'd need ( as long as its freeish ). What would be a
check list of everything I'd need to set up OWL optimally. I'm just
curious because if there are so many distributions of linux platforms
I'm not sure which version wonderland wants to operate best with.

How many people can this handle at a time? I think I read somebody
saying something like 60 to 70 people? That would be nuts with the
voice chat.

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 More options Jun 13 2012, 12:38 am
From: Carlos Rafael Ramirez <crrami...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:38:13 -0500
Local: Wed, Jun 13 2012 12:38 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )

Use ubuntu or opensuse. The distribution really doesn't matter for
performance just to be easier to install and configure.
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 More options Jun 13 2012, 1:09 am
From: titband_com <titb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:09:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 13 2012 1:09 am
Subject: Re: The Black Screen ( owf2.virtualnorthstar.org )
Ok.. I'm getting the ISO for the Ubuntu Server from.

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server

If I should have gotten the desktop version, let me know.

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