strongMorph

[scruffian]

Hi

In my copy of the KJV in XML with strongs numbers, I have this kind of
morphological data:

strongMorph:TH8799

for each word. I presume this is the form of the word, but I can't
find any reference to this anywhere. Has anyone seen this kind of
thing before? Is there a dictionary for strongs morphological forms?

Thanks for your help
Ben

[Peter von Kaehne]

On 03/03/12 08:37, scruffian wrote:
> Hi
>
> In my copy of the KJV in XML with strongs numbers, I have this kind of
> morphological data:

Presumably Crosswire's KJV.

Check out the dictionaries of CrossWire - there are a bunch of
morphological ones.

Peter

[David Troidl]

Hi,

I would assume those were a form of the ones in the SWORD KJV module,
for the Old Testament. If so, I have heard that it is a proprietary
format that we're not allowed to use in open software.

David

[scruffian]

Thanks. I had a look, but the morphology only seems to be available
for Greek. There doesn't seem to be any morphological data on hebrew
texts available - well not open source ones anyway.

Any idea how we could add this into the Hebrew Morphology? Where could
we get the data? Have you discussed this elsewhere (I looked but I
couldn't find it).

Thanks again!

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Nothing we do at CrossWire is closed or restricted beyond standard
public licenses (by us-- we don't own all the texts we distribute).

Lemma/Morph codes in the Old Testament of the KJV200[36] module were
done by the Bible Foundation years and years ago. We only did the NT
alignment because the NT lemma/morph codes originally distributed by the
Bible Foundation had a copyright claim by another Bible software vendor
and we wanted to honor their request to not use their work.

The Bible Foundation used numbers greater than the standard Strong's
numbers to represent parsing codes for verbs.

I think someone might have made a module for these codes. Actually, I'm
kindof surprised they are still in our module, as I had thought we
probably had swapped them out for something else. But I suppose it
makes sense since we generally have left the Old Testament alone.

Hope this helps,

Troy

[scruffian]

I couldn't find the data anywhere, but I have been working it out
using a wigrams and this is what I have so far:

TH8712 - Kal Infinitive
TH8798 - Kal Imperitive
TH8799 - Kal Future
TH8804 - Kal Preterite
TH8803 - Kal Participle Paul
TH8802 - Kal Participle Poel

TH8686 - Hiphil Future
TH8687 - Hiphil Infinitive
TH8688 - Hiphil Participle
TH8689 - Hiphil Preterite

TH8735 - Niphal Future
TH8736 - Niphal Inifinitive
TH8737 - Niphal Participle
TH8738 - Niphal Preterite

TH8762 - Piel Future
TH8763 - Piel Infinitive
TH8764 - Piel Participle
TH8765 - Piel Preterite

TH8800 - Hithpiel Preterite
TH8710 - Hithpiel Infinitive
TH8693 - Hithpiel Participle
TH8691 - Hithpiel Future

There are probably a few more in there to do. Once I have them all
done I'll put it in a JSON file on git hub...

[scr...@crosswire.org]

Thanks for the work! I would think we'd like to update the KJV20xx OT source with more standard parsing codes once your evaluation is complete.

Thanks again,

Troy

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[John Dyer]

That is awesome!

When you're done I'd love to backfill the WLC with the data.

JD - http://j.hn/

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