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Don Moore  
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 More options Apr 26 2012, 5:11 pm
From: Don Moore <dmo...@haas.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:11:39 -0700
Local: Thurs, Apr 26 2012 5:11 pm
Subject: RE: [OpenScienceFramework] Re: Harvard memo encourages open access because of high costs
It would be cheaper and better for the scientific cause if the faculties instead abandoned commercial publishers and moved to open access journals.  It would be a good investment for our universities, granting agencies, and government institutions to pay us to make the switch.  But I can also think of a few problems with them doing that...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: openscienceframework@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:openscienceframework@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse
> Chandler
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:08 PM
> To: Open Science Framework
> Subject: [OpenScienceFramework] Re: Harvard memo encourages open
> access because of high costs

> Elsevier is publicly traded with a market cap of about 10 billion USD.
> A controlling stake in it could be acquired for around 5 billion. Here is a guide
> of the largest university endowments

> http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2011/06/28/10-
> universities-with-largest-financial-endowments

> If universities are so unhappy with the costs, and Elsevier is making so much
> money, perhaps they should just form a consortium and buy it.

> On Apr 26, 2:37 pm, Jeffrey Spies <jsp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A colleague sent this to me earlier:

> > http://techland.time.com/2012/04/26/if-harvard-cant-afford-academic-j...

> > The memo includes:

> > Even though scholarly output continues to grow and publishing can be

> > > expensive, profit margins of 35% and more suggest that the prices we
> > > must pay do not solely result from an increasing supply of new
> > > articles . The Faculty Advisory Council to the Library, representing
> > > university faculty in all schools and in consultation with the
> > > Harvard Library leadership, reached this conclusion: major
> > > periodical subscriptions, especially to electronic journals
> > > published by historically key providers, cannot be
> > > sustained: continuing these subscriptions on their current footing
> > > is financially untenable.

> > and

> > Consider submitting articles to open-access journals, or to ones that
> > have

> > > reasonable, sustainable subscription costs; move prestige to open access.

> > That's a big move in the right direction!


 
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