Kinect + USB3.0 ExpressCard + OS X = no love

[dtr]

Hi,

I've had no success trying to get a Kinect to work when connected to a
USB3.0 ExpressCard interface. I know the Kinect won't work at USB3.0
speed but the card also works with USB2.0 and USB1.0 devices
(confirmed by testing) so I'd expect a Kinect to work too. I'm getting
errors though:

dtr:Release dtr$ /Users/dtr/Documents/OpenNI/OpenNI-Bin-MacOSX-
v1.3.2.3/Samples/Bin/Release/NiViewer
Open failed: Failed to open the USB device!

And SimpleOpenNI (a wrapper for Processing) reports:

SimpleOpenNI Version 0.20
Invalid memory access of location 0x8 eip=0x3fa27a1a

It does show up in System Profiler as:

>USB Super-Speed Bus
>>Hub
>>>Xbox NUI Camera
>>>Xbox NUI Audio
>>>Xbox NUI Motor

The reason why I try to make this work is that I need to connect 2
Kinects to my MacBook Pro which has only one internal USB2.0 root hub.
I'm hoping that by adding another USB controller in the ExpressCard
slot I can connect a 2nd Kinect. Or else I have to use a 2nd computer,
which is not practical.

I'm using a DeLock card: http://www.delock.com/produkte/gruppen/Express-Card/Delock_Express_Card_2x_USB_30_61753.html
With the hacked LaCie USB3.0 driver for OS X:
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=236209

Other devices like my trackball and USB memory stick work fine but a
Kinect doesn't. Any ideas why?

And did anyone have more success with a similar approach? Perhaps with
another card?

I'm running the latest Avin2 driver, OpenNI and NITE. Older versions
have the same problem.


Thanks for any help, Dieter

[Carlos Roberto]

I have both USB 2.0 and 3.0 cards on my machine and Kinect works fine in any port. I use Windows 7 x64
Cheers.

Carlos Roberto, MSc
Software Eng. Consultant @ IBM

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[dtr]

Is that PCI or ExpressCards?

On Sep 29, 11:36 pm, Carlos Roberto <carlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have both USB 2.0 and 3.0 cards on my machine and Kinect works fine in any
> port. I use Windows 7 x64
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>
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> > With the hacked LaCie USB3.0 driver for OS X:
> >http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=236209
>
> > Other devices like my trackball and USB memory stick work fine but a
> > Kinect doesn't. Any ideas why?
>
> > And did anyone have more success with a similar approach? Perhaps with
> > another card?
>
> > I'm running the latest Avin2 driver, OpenNI and NITE. Older versions
> > have the same problem.
>
> > Thanks for any help, Dieter
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[Diogo Correa (douttorx)]

Don't work to me too. I'm in Ubuntu 11.04 32bits and using a USB 3.0
port in laptop.

[michael hofmann]

Hello All,

I also got the problem with USB3 and the Kinect. I tried with the an
onboard NEC controler and with an ASMedia pcie expansion card. I also
got the "USB3: ERROR no room on ep ring" error.
The basic problem is, that the bulk-ep-ring is limited to 1, and this
will not work with cameras with large data sizes, as the kinect.
The exact description can be found there:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg49736.html
and
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg52072.html

You will also find a Patch there, wich will work around the problem by
enlarging the ep-ring, you will have to recompile your kernel, but
this is still better than having not the posibility to use the kinect
on USB3 ports.

I simply changed the following lines, without a module parameter, as
propost in the kernel patch:
drivers/usb/host/xhci-mem.c:

if (usb_endpoint_xfer_isoc(&ep->desc))
virt_dev->eps[ep_index].new_ring =
xhci_ring_alloc(xhci, 8, true, mem_flags);
+ else if (usb_endpoint_xfer_bulk(&ep->desc))
+ virt_dev->eps[ep_index].new_ring =
+ xhci_ring_alloc(xhci, 8,
+ true, mem_flags);
else
virt_dev->eps[ep_index].new_ring =
xhci_ring_alloc(xhci, 1, true, mem_flags);

drivers/usb/host/xhci.h:
- #define TRPS_PER_SEGMENT 64
+ #define TRPS_PER_SEGMENT 256

I need this change for my multi-kinect setup. I'm using a HighPoint
RocketU 1144A to attach 4 Kinects to my pc :)
Just testet the setup, 4Kinects working on one PC all connected to one
RocketU card. working like a charm with ROS

greetings
Michael

On 1 Okt., 01:13, "Diogo Correa (douttorx)" <doutt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[dtr]

good job! it's great this mistery is solved now... you might wanna
tell primesense directly about this. should be officially documented.

On Nov 14, 12:40 pm, michael hofmann <mhofman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I also got the problem with USB3 and the Kinect. I tried with the an
> onboard NEC controler and with an ASMedia pcie expansion card. I also
> got the "USB3: ERROR no room on ep ring" error.
> The basic problem is, that the bulk-ep-ring is limited to 1, and this
> will not work with cameras with large data sizes, as the kinect.
> The exact description can be found there:http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg49736.html

> andhttp://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg52072.html

[Suat Gedikli]

Hi Michael,

 

i will add your fix into the patched versions for ROS and PCL (if its ok for you) - so in our next release the binaries should be available for Linux, Windows and Mac.

-Suat

 

2011/11/14 michael hofmann <mhofm...@gmail.com>

[michael hofmann]

For me it is okay,
the original patch comes from:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg49736.html
Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
maybe ask him too :)

On 15 Nov., 05:34, Suat Gedikli <suat.gedi...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> i will add your fix into the patched versions for ROS and PCL (if its ok
> for you) - so in our next release the binaries should be available for
> Linux, Windows and Mac.
> -Suat
>

> 2011/11/14 michael hofmann <mhofman...@gmail.com>

[dtr]

Has anyone used Michael's solution to get (for example) the sample
OpenNI/NITE programs to work with a Kinect connected to USB3.0?

On Nov 15, 1:26 pm, michael hofmann <mhofman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For me it is okay,
> the original patch comes from:http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg49736.html
> Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> maybe ask him too :)
>
> On 15 Nov., 05:34, Suat Gedikli <suat.gedi...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
>
> > i will add your fix into the patched versions for ROS and PCL (if its ok
> > for you) - so in our next release the binaries should be available for
> > Linux, Windows and Mac.
> > -Suat
>
> > 2011/11/14 michael hofmann <mhofman...@gmail.com>
>
> > > Hello All,
>

> > > I also got the problem withUSB3and the Kinect. I tried with the an

> > > > > > > With the hacked LaCieUSB3.0 driver for OS X: