Map?
David Collins
on, or interested in, free and open-source small-scale manufacturing,
fablabs, and related ideas?
I'd like to explore the idea of working on something like Factor e Farm
here in Europe, for example, but wouldn't be bowled over by the notion
of taking this sort of thing on by myself (and would there be much
point?). On the other hand, I have little or no clue as to whether or
not there are many readers from Europe in this group. Some sort of map
might make such an undertaking easier?
It might make it easier for us to collaborate if we knew where the other
is located physically, no?
Just a thought
david
Smári McCarthy
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I have almost finished making this. I wrote most of the code a while
ago, but didn't finish it. It would be nice to finish it sometime in the
next couple of weeks.
The focus, actually, of the map, was the whereabouts of digital
fabrication and other manufacturing equipment and the terms of use of
those devices. Knowing where the equipment is is an important step
towards using it ;)
Adding "people pins" should be simple.
- Smári
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Heath Matlock
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=117989365854800451877.00046a0f6fce3226e4a24
Paul D. Fernhout
in to Google, I could no easily figure out how to do that. Probably
something obvious I missed?
--Paul Fernhout
Heath Matlock
Here's some more useful info on Google's My Maps:
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Pk3gOiPosRMJ:maps.google.com/support/bin/answer.py%3Fhl%3Den%26answer%3D68480+google+my+maps&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Heath Matlock
Lee Nelson
Smári McCarthy
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1) task-specific database behind it
2) task-specific user interface
3) not controlled by Google (runs on OpenStreetMap)
I always bash programs like Excel for being overly generalized to
specific tasks - Swiss Army knives are good, but they often retain
higher complexity relative to the tool constructed exactly for the
purpose of achieving the goal. Google Maps, while great, is overly
generalized.
- Smári
Lee Nelson wrote:
> I think I moved Heath's icon to my location.....
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> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Heath Matlock <heathm...@gmail.com
> <mailto:heathm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> You have to click the "Edit" button on the bottom-left side of the
> screen before the icon appears it seems.
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> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Heath Matlock
> <heathm...@gmail.com <mailto:heathm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Hi Paul, there should be a blue "Add a placemark" icon on the
> top-left of the map, clicking that will allow you to drag a
> marker to your location on the map.
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> Here's some more useful info on Google's My Maps:
> http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Pk3gOiPosRMJ:maps.google.com/support/bin/answer.py%3Fhl%3Den%26answer%3D68480+google+my+maps&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Paul D. Fernhout
> <pdfer...@kurtz-fernhout.com
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> A dumb question, but how does someone add a point to that
> map? Even logged
> in to Google, I could no easily figure out how to do that.
> Probably
> something obvious I missed?
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> --Paul Fernhout
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> Heath Matlock wrote:
> > Here's a map for the community members to pinpoint their
> whereabouts:
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David Collins
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:12:01PM +0000, Smári McCarthy wrote:
> This is part of the reason I was writing my own thing.
>
> 1) task-specific database behind it
> 2) task-specific user interface
> 3) not controlled by Google (runs on OpenStreetMap)
>
> I always bash programs like Excel for being overly generalized to
> specific tasks - Swiss Army knives are good, but they often retain
> higher complexity relative to the tool constructed exactly for the
> purpose of achieving the goal. Google Maps, while great, is overly
> generalized.
This sounds interesting. Feel free to keep me/us posted.
Even if your map is primarily for resource/equipment finding, I guess :
where the equipment and tools are, the people can't be far away anyway?
There are similar existing initiatives, but they seem to either have
technical shortcomings, or be motivated by a broader agenda that I am
reluctant to endorse or become involved in. For example :
- http://www.justfortheloveofit.org/ - not open-source; have to select
tools from a pre-defined list (which is quite limiting); doesn't
allow you to specify the details about a resource (e.g. someone has
a wrench - but is it metric, or imperial? What's the jaw-size?
etc.); search radius is limited to about 10 miles
- http://www.whopools.net/ - no map (the last time I checked at least -
but at least it's open-source, so perhaps one could be added, or it
could be forked); mostly about resources, rather than people
- http://www.zeitgeistresources.com/ - don't know much about this, but
the Zeitgeist Movement / Venus project has a certain amount of baggage
associated with it that I'm reluctant to associate myself with (at
least until I learn more about it)
I share your concerns about using google maps, but - personally - I
would quite likely be willing to use it anyway - at least for the moment.
Having choices might be a good thing?
Using openstreetmap/openlayers makes perfect sense I think BTW.
david
Paul D. Fernhout
sounds like another great idea for a "social semantic desktop" application
to me. :-)
--Paul Fernhout
Nathan W. Cravens
You're designing a web app, right?
And it does this?:
1) a way for people to source materials
2) a way for people to access fabrication tools, workshops, hacker
spaces etc
Thanks Smári, this is a greatly needed foundational item.
Smári McCarthy
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Hi Nathan,
Nathan W. Cravens wrote:
> You're designing a web app, right?
Yes
> And it does this?:
> 1) a way for people to source materials
No.
Not because I don't want to add that feature, just isn't the focus as is.
> 2) a way for people to access fabrication tools, workshops, hacker
> spaces etc
Yes.
But mostly, it just tells you where these are and what terms there are
for use.
> Thanks Smári, this is a greatly needed foundational item.
No prob. Thank me when it's done. Things like this tend not to receive
the attention they deserve.
- Smári
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Bryan Bishop
> But mostly, it just tells you where these are and what terms there are
> for use.
Why not just use a file with a list of coordinates and a description
of what's at that point? Presentation layer can come later .. tons of
Google-Maps script-kiddies running around out there already. :-)
Smári McCarthy
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coordinates, and nobody is ever going to find out about my little text
file...
Example: There's a group of women who have a laser cutter at a "womans
workshop" in the countryside outside Vík í Mýrdal in Iceland. I heard
about them by sheer random happenstance. We cannot realistically compile
a comprehensive list, but if we provide people with sensible tools to
contribute to the list, then it might just happen.
- S
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