> The 802.11s standard looks interesting since it is adopted as a standard and already added to linux,
> http://cozybit.com/our-projects/wireless-mesh-networks/o11s-mesh/ . it is included in battlemesh. i
> like the byzantium setup, looks like plenty of recent work on it. it may be worthwhile to come up
> with a cheap arduino or raspberry pi based node in a weatherproof enclosure with external antennas
> which can run off of solar power which could be scattered about on rooftops.
> On 1/21/2013 10:25 AM, Chris Caswell wrote:
>> I don't think this has been listed yet, but it's also an awesome project:
>> http://battlemesh.org/
>> They get together every year to test different mesh networking protocols and collect data.
>> On Monday, January 21, 2013 2:57:19 AM UTC-5, MauiMaker wrote:
>> Another one to look at would be http://project-byzantium.org/ <http://project-byzantium.org/>
>> It is not a phone based rig though.
>> Its a linux distro designed to turn any wifi enabled system into a node/server - giving an ad
>> hoc mesh IP net and possible internet gateways.
>> On Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:33:26 AM UTC-10, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 05:55:22PM -0800, Jacob Merrill wrote:
>> > No, I am talking about having each phone as a network node in a giant ever
>> > changing network based on vectors, and parity etc, using a few sockets on
>> > each phone, ie I can talk, surf web, download and support others doing the
>> > same,
>> You're looking for something called the Serval Project.
>> > I send message, it goes to carl, from carl to jim,, from jim to a router,
>> > to the net, back out a router to sally to bob,
>> > now picture that divided into 2000 pieces and with multiple copies so I can
>> > detect the best paths for each new iteration,
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Interesting!! A dream project of mine has been to build a 'staff of connectivity' ...
A walking stick, with a networking stack. It has one large 3 foot omni antenna in the staff, and one small antenna with the hardware at the top.
It would have two operating modes with a switch at the top: 1) broadcast mode: for when close to an open wireless network, the smaller antenna would connect and bridge, and broadcast that local network over a larger area. 2) scan mode: when you're not close to any known network, the larger antenna scans a wider range for open wireless networks. When it finds one, it bridges the connection and rebroadcasts it locally, and maybe the orb glows.
Ok fine, it doesn't *have* to look like a wizards staff, but I still want one. I'm not sure what hardware setup would be best.. It's obviously in the early planning stages :p.
On a more serious note: regarding the wireless mesh network, what needs the most development -- software or hardware? Can we do it with the existing hardware? And if not, what sort of specialized hardware (eg an inexpensive, commercially available piratebox?) would make the job a lot easier?
On Monday, January 21, 2013 3:41:03 PM UTC-5, mike wrote:
> The 802.11s standard looks interesting since it is adopted as a standard > and already added to linux, > http://cozybit.com/our-projects/wireless-mesh-networks/o11s-mesh/ . it is > included in battlemesh. i > like the byzantium setup, looks like plenty of recent work on it. it may > be worthwhile to come up > with a cheap arduino or raspberry pi based node in a weatherproof > enclosure with external antennas > which can run off of solar power which could be scattered about on > rooftops.
> On 1/21/2013 10:25 AM, Chris Caswell wrote: > > I don't think this has been listed yet, but it's also an awesome > project: > > http://battlemesh.org/
> > They get together every year to test different mesh networking protocols > and collect data.
> > On Monday, January 21, 2013 2:57:19 AM UTC-5, MauiMaker wrote:
> > Another one to look at would be http://project-byzantium.org/ < > http://project-byzantium.org/> > > It is not a phone based rig though. > > Its a linux distro designed to turn any wifi enabled system into a > node/server - giving an ad > > hoc mesh IP net and possible internet gateways.
> > On Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:33:26 AM UTC-10, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 05:55:22PM -0800, Jacob Merrill wrote: > > > No, I am talking about having each phone as a network node in > a giant ever > > > changing network based on vectors, and parity etc, using a few > sockets on > > > each phone, ie I can talk, surf web, download and support > others doing the > > > same,
> > You're looking for something called the Serval Project.
> > > I send message, it goes to carl, from carl to jim,, from jim > to a router, > > > to the net, back out a router to sally to bob,
> > > now picture that divided into 2000 pieces and with multiple > copies so I can > > > detect the best paths for each new iteration,
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I've been looking at power consumption of arduino and 802.11n to see what size panel for a wireless
self powered unit and ballpark figures for pricing.
From this brief survey, it looks like an integrated 50mm x 100 mm x 25mm solar powered wireless mesh
unit with with 802.11n radios could be made in volume for under $50 with a custom board for the
electronics and injection molded packaging, after prototyping with arduino, the cell charger, and an
802.11n shield.
> Very interesting. Perhaps we should invite someone from the cozybit team to join the discussion.
> On 01/21/2013 12:41 PM, m d wrote:
>> The 802.11s standard looks interesting since it is adopted as a standard and already added to linux,
>> http://cozybit.com/our-projects/wireless-mesh-networks/o11s-mesh/ . it is included in battlemesh. i
>> like the byzantium setup, looks like plenty of recent work on it. it may be worthwhile to come up
>> with a cheap arduino or raspberry pi based node in a weatherproof enclosure with external antennas
>> which can run off of solar power which could be scattered about on rooftops.
>> On 1/21/2013 10:25 AM, Chris Caswell wrote:
>>> I don't think this has been listed yet, but it's also an awesome project:
>>> http://battlemesh.org/
>>> They get together every year to test different mesh networking protocols and collect data.
>>> On Monday, January 21, 2013 2:57:19 AM UTC-5, MauiMaker wrote:
>>> Another one to look at would be http://project-byzantium.org/ <http://project-byzantium.org/>
>>> It is not a phone based rig though.
>>> Its a linux distro designed to turn any wifi enabled system into a node/server - giving an ad
>>> hoc mesh IP net and possible internet gateways.
>>> On Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:33:26 AM UTC-10, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 05:55:22PM -0800, Jacob Merrill wrote:
>>> > No, I am talking about having each phone as a network node in a giant ever
>>> > changing network based on vectors, and parity etc, using a few sockets on
>>> > each phone, ie I can talk, surf web, download and support others doing the
>>> > same,
>>> You're looking for something called the Serval Project.
>>> > I send message, it goes to carl, from carl to jim,, from jim to a router,
>>> > to the net, back out a router to sally to bob,
>>> > now picture that divided into 2000 pieces and with multiple copies so I can
>>> > detect the best paths for each new iteration,
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I have been looking into printing photonic computers powered by an external coil,
basically they are fipel nano OLED's with an on off switch that is targeted by any means,
with this technology you could print plastic, that is essentially a screen and or computer or input device, the cpu is the part that is the least feasible now, but if one OLED can be used to turn other nodes on and off........
Also I have a design for a nice phone system,
Use a breathable forearm guard as a base to attach a smartphone, that has a port in it to hold/charge a blue-tooth headset, and a set of reality augmentation overlay glasses( not that I can afford it) but one can dream, and this system would be robust and durable, as well as have an integrated Self winding watch or other scheme to power the phone with the arms movement, that is very very light..
is there a micro arm powered board smaller then the PI? or the arduino? like the size of a large coin? how crazy expensive is it?
