Re: [kc-fabricators] Re: Is One of Our Open Source Heroes Going Closed Source? by Rob Giseburt

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Bryan Bishop

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Sep 19, 2012, 11:33:04 PM9/19/12
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Rob Giseburt <gise...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wish it were better circumstance to get to write for the Make blog.

IIRC, makerbot has always had one or two closed source parts. Are
people quick to forget? Prusa was mentioning the firmware as another
contender, too.

- Bryan
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Jordan Miller

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Sep 20, 2012, 1:06:39 AM9/20/12
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I don't even know if it's legal for them to go closed source now.
isn't the replicator v1 GPL v3??

jordan

Andrew Back

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Sep 20, 2012, 3:12:36 AM9/20/12
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On 20 September 2012 06:06, Jordan Miller <jrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't even know if it's legal for them to go closed source now.
> isn't the replicator v1 GPL v3??

If they own all the copyrights I suspect they can do as they please,
e.g. as with licensing changes with new revisions of open source
software and dual (proprietary and open source) licensed software.

It would be interesting to see if there's anything that could be
considered derivative of RepRap, since they don't get to do as they
please with that IP. But I imagine if there were any RepRap IP they
will have been careful to remove it (in hardware this may just just
involve re-drawing something), and even if there were a case against
them they have much deeper pockets now...

Of course, IANAL.

I see a worrying theme in open source hardware: open source until it
doesn't suit me. But ultimately "bait and switch" and "open source
until I send you a take down" strategies are very short-sighted, as
open source software folks have recognised for quite some time.

Cheers,

Andrew

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Jordan Miller

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Sep 20, 2012, 9:50:56 AM9/20/12
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Bryan-- are you gonna make a thingiverse to git repo converter soon?

Luis-- did your thingiverse cloning script run finish? how big was the repo?

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Bryan Bishop

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Sep 20, 2012, 12:27:32 PM9/20/12
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Jordan Miller <jrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bryan-- are you gonna make a thingiverse to git repo converter soon?

Already have. Is there any interest from someone other than me? Last
time I checked I just got a lot of confused looks....

Jordan Miller

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Sep 20, 2012, 12:32:10 PM9/20/12
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is it live?

jordan

Bryan Bishop

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Sep 20, 2012, 12:34:30 PM9/20/12
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Jordan Miller <jrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> is it live?

Not at the moment :-). A few of the repos on http://diyhpl.us/cgit are
just manual thingiverse things -> git, which are survivors of my
thingiverse/git work. There were also a handful of different scrapers
that I could dig up for you.

Eugen Leitl

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Sep 20, 2012, 12:36:11 PM9/20/12
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:34:30AM -0500, Bryan Bishop wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Jordan Miller <jrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > is it live?
>
> Not at the moment :-). A few of the repos on http://diyhpl.us/cgit are
> just manual thingiverse things -> git, which are survivors of my
> thingiverse/git work. There were also a handful of different scrapers
> that I could dig up for you.

I would not let lack of apparent reaction discourage you. You're just
too early, that's all.

Luis E. Rodriguez

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Sep 20, 2012, 3:25:01 PM9/20/12
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I did not initiate it.

Luis E. Rodriguez
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