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From: Gary Mulder <flyingkiwi...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:34:37 +0100
To: doctrinezero@googlegroups.com
Subject: Luddite Utopia or dystopian dictatorship? [Was: Re: [ZS] David Wood's
slides from his "Is the singularity near?" presentation yesterday]
Reply-To: doctrinezero@googlegroups.com
On 21 October 2012 14:58, R diger Koch <rudiger.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
I fail to understand how this will help you when almost everyone who works
> in fastfood, transportation, agriculture, retail, health care and a lot of
> other industries gets laid off and we software engineers have to compete
> with Indians or even Indonesias or Philippinos. How do you like $500 a
> month?
I fail to see why replacing you or I with someone from Indonesia or
the Philippines who can do the same or perhaps even better job for 10% of
our salary is bad. While it might directly negatively affect you and I
personally, I think the vastly greater number of consumers of much cheaper
software will definitely approve! This is the same "creative destruction"
that occurred in the Industrial Revolution and that generated the Luddite
movement.
3-D printing is not the panacea - it's actually an almost 60 year old
> technology. There are commercial NC buildup welding machines since about
> 1965. Objects from 3-D printers are really expensive and will remain so -
> about $200/liter. If you want to 3-D print a compact car, you are at
> $200,000. Good for prototyping. No good for cottage hightech industry that
> will replace the traditional industry and start the age of abundance.
I think the jury is out on this. However, 3D printer prices have been
"creatively destructing" until you can pick one up for the sum of a few
months of that Indian salary you mention above:
http://www.siliconindia.com/gadget/news/10-Amazing-3D-Printing-Creati...
The key point is that while I agree the "worldwide 1%" own a
disproportionately huge percentage of the world resource pie, there is
plenty of pie to go around. The Internet provides a means for knowledge and
technology to diffuse at accelerating rates throughout the entire world.
The USA can ban stem cells and Europe can ban GMOs, but that just means
that someone somewhere else will do the research.
The next Larry Ellison quite possibly holds an Indonesian passport. There
could be a woman in the Philippines who can imagine a 3D design for a super
efficient rice paddy watering system. Give them the opportunity to learn
from other people's ideas and then innovate and they will.
Gary
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