> Bryan Bishop <kanz...@gmail.com> Jan 15 11:10AM -0600
> From: Marcus Wolschon <marcus.wolsc...@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:56 AM
> Subject: [thingiverse] developing an alternative site?
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> Anyone up to develop an alternative site?
> At least help in brainstorming the ideas and coming up with options
> (e.g. where to host the files and images)?
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> Andrew Mazzotta <andrewmazzo...@gmail.com> Jan 15 01:56PM -0500
> If 3dhacker.com could support it I would love to add this feature to
> the
> siite. I'm looking to make 3dhacker.com into a free/cheapest all-in-one
> place for 3d printing.
> @Bryan, I have a domain name "downloadhardware.com" which I registered
> since hearing one of your YouTube presentations. Could be a great name
> for
> this idea.
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I'll study them for how to add such visual appeal features to my stuff without infringing them,
but don't like the idea of a hosted service when fossil seems to be able to create distributed swarms
of websites about open S/w and H/W projects.
"Built on top of git, you can track changes to your project as it evolves. You always have a local copy with the entire change history." So they use git in a central server repos mode.
Just learned about fossil. Will find out more soon.
> Bryan Bishop <kanz...@gmail.com <mailto:kanz...@gmail.com>> Jan 15 11:10AM -0600
> From: Marcus Wolschon <marcus.wolsc...@gmail.com <mailto:marcus.wolsc...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:56 AM
> Subject: [thingiverse] developing an alternative site?
> To: thingiverse@googlegroups.com <mailto:thingiverse@googlegroups.com>
> Anyone up to develop an alternative site?
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> Andrew Mazzotta <andrewmazzo...@gmail.com <mailto:andrewmazzo...@gmail.com>> Jan 15 01:56PM -0500
> If 3dhacker.com <http://3dhacker.com> could support it I would love to add this feature to the
> siite. I'm looking to make 3dhacker.com <http://3dhacker.com> into a free/cheapest all-in-one
> place for 3d printing.
> @Bryan, I have a domain name "downloadhardware.com <http://downloadhardware.com>" which I registered
> since hearing one of your YouTube presentations. Could be a great name for
> this idea.
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I'll study them for how to add such visual appeal features to my stuff without infringing them,
but don't like the idea of a hosted service when fossil seems to be able to create distributed swarms
of websites about open S/w and H/W projects.
"Built on top of git, you can track changes to your project as it evolves. You always have a local copy with the entire change history." So they use git in a central server repos mode.
Just learned about fossil. Will find out more soon.
Guy behind Cubehero here. Thanks for the mention, and I thought I'd pipe in here to help make some things clear.
Bryan is right in that there's no central server repo mode in git. If you clone a repo from Cubehero, you can add multiple remote repos to your local copy, and push to multiple places. Hence, you can use your local copy and push to Cubehero, Github, or some other host all at the same time for backups. You could even set up your own remote repo to push to (if you're not afraid of some programming), or using gitlab to self-host (if you are).
However, in practice, multiple people working on a project usually set up their workflow so that they pull and push from a common remote repo.
Note that setting up multiple remotes is only available if you clone a local copy. With cubehero, you can also commit by uploading through the web, hence you'll have to learn git in order to set up multiple remotes.
As for the copyright/licensing part, I just care that someone doesn't rip off the html/css on the site and host it somewhere else, either posing as Cubehero (and confusing users!), as direct competition (if you're going to do that, please write your own site), or doing something freaky with it. I have a friend who's running a business, and someone registered a slight mispelling of his site's url, copied the look and feel of their site, and redirected all the links to the blowjob listings on craigslist. While it makes for lulz, it's not good for confused users.
Your models are your own. That's part of the reason why I went through the trouble of writing it on top of git--so you'd be able to clone a local copy, and host it elsewhere if you want.
Note that there's only one type of license on Cubehero (Creative Commons, public, non-commercial), since nobody's asked me if they can have different licenses, so I haven't implemented it.
Hope that clears things up. If you have other questions, just lemme know. w...@cubehero.com
> Hi there, thanks for the feedback. Thanks for letting me know about your situation with the licenses. I'm currently working on
> being able to delete files in your repo, and will swing around to the licenses soon. I'll keep you updated when you can designate
> different licenses.
> Originally, I wasn't sure how licenses would work when there was versioning.
If one changes the license from more public to
> private, does that mean all other versions before are now private?
When you say private, I don't think you mean closed source trade secret -- you might mean
like GPL, where you are free to make products for sale, and free to charge for forms of documentation
as long as you distribute the docs in an accessible way via the internet.
In talking about open manufacturing we usually shorten the license names to
1. BSD or MIT style or attribution
2. free open source == GPL TAPR (viral -- derivative works cannot go closed)
3. non-commercial CC_NC == freeware == no hardware equivalent (crippled teaser SW to get you to buy robust SW for sale)
"does that mean all other versions before are now private?"
No. Derivative works of a free open licensed design follow the original license, and the only
ones that can go back to closed are the original owners, and that would not even be on your site...
A case would be start with CC-NC, then go to GPL. GPL is less restrictive, so no trouble, (both are
viral wrt derivative works).
Now consider starting CC-NC, then go to GPL, then making another version and changing to BSD license,
which restricts nothing, just limits liability and is similar to CC-SA, asking for attribution.
I think you would need a separate repository to keep all your licensees happy, and if you are sole
owner of the IP, you could. BSD licensed design IP can be incorporated into closed trade secret works.
For now, the easy solution is to just make a license that
> applies across the versions of your project, and the versioned licensing will happen later.
Sure. If they change license, they will need two repository listings in most cases. The same
code of docs can be licensed both ways by the author. They have to have clear single ownership
to do that though, so most community projects
