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John Wonderlich  
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 More options Jul 7 2008, 2:08 pm
From: "John Wonderlich" <johnwonderl...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:08:30 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 7 2008 2:08 pm
Subject: On Dear Colleagues

I've talked to probably 6 people on this list with ideas about publishing
Congress' "Dear Colleague" letters.

Dear Colleagues are letters sent between Members of Congress, often daily,
often detailing legislation and asking for support or cosponsorship.  The
Committee on House Administration recently announced new
plans<http://cha.house.gov/view_press_release.aspx?r=20080624104634>to
"allow
for greater categorization and customization of electronic Dear Colleagues."

CHA also notes that staff sometimes receive up to 70 of these letters per
day, a rather astounding number.

My question is this:

Is there reason to either push for the publication of all Dear Colleague
letters (or some subset of them)?  What would be the ideal publishing
method, and what might be a good incremental step toward that?

I expect that most members would welcome Dear Colleagues' publication, since
they're written similarly to press releases, and are about getting
attention.

On the technical side, I expect that an ideal situation would be for the
House system to offer a "public" option for Dear Colleague distribution,
where the default is public.  In the meantime, cc-ing some predefined third
party public ingestion email would probably work, with that email connecting
to a database and a public facing index of dear colleagues, functioning on
an opt-in basis.

Any reactions or ideas?  I'm especially interested in any thoughts on why
this would be a bad idea, since I can't think of any.

--
John Wonderlich

Program Director
The Sunlight Foundation
(202) 742-1520 ext. 234


 
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Chris Kinnan  
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 More options Jul 7 2008, 2:58 pm
From: "Chris Kinnan" <kin...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:58:51 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 7 2008 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: [openhouseproject] On Dear Colleagues
One possible hurdle is that many dear colleagues contain newspaper
articles and other copyrighted content...

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:08 PM, John Wonderlich


 
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David Weller  
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 More options Jul 7 2008, 2:42 pm
From: "David Weller" <poetspi...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:42:32 -0500
Local: Mon, Jul 7 2008 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: [openhouseproject] On Dear Colleagues

I've never seen one before, but I take it that it is a formally structured
personalized letter from one congress member to the next about a bill in
legislation.  I wonder if it is similar to the type of letter a
representative sends to his constituent in reply to a bill vote request.
People would be interested in that, but it hopefully won't deter them from
sending their messages to their rep. for a YES or NO vote.

David Weller
www.AllThingsReform.org

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Peggy Garvin  
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 More options Jul 7 2008, 3:27 pm
From: "Peggy Garvin" <pe...@garvinconsulting.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:27:08 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 7 2008 3:27 pm
Subject: RE: [openhouseproject] Re: On Dear Colleagues

See background information in this CRS report:

http://www.llsdc.org/attachments/wysiwyg/544/CRS-RS21667.pdf

In the past, commercial fee-based systems have carried Dear Colleague
letters, but not comprehensively.

I agree with Chris - inclusion of copyright-protected material would keep
some Dear Colleagues out of a public system.

Peggy

www.garvinconsulting.com

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From: openhouseproject@googlegroups.com
[mailto:openhouseproject@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Weller
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:43 PM
To: openhouseproject@googlegroups.com
Subject: [openhouseproject] Re: On Dear Colleagues

I've never seen one before, but I take it that it is a formally structured
personalized letter from one congress member to the next about a bill in
legislation.  I wonder if it is similar to the type of letter a
representative sends to his constituent in reply to a bill vote request.
People would be interested in that, but it hopefully won't deter them from
sending their messages to their rep. for a YES or NO vote.

David Weller
www.AllThingsReform.org

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:08 PM, John Wonderlich <johnwonderl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I've talked to probably 6 people on this list with ideas about publishing
Congress' "Dear Colleague" letters.

Dear Colleagues are letters sent between Members of Congress, often daily,
often detailing legislation and asking for support or cosponsorship.  The
Committee on House Administration recently announced new plans
<http://cha.house.gov/view_press_release.aspx?r=20080624104634>  to "allow
for greater categorization and customization of electronic Dear Colleagues."

CHA also notes that staff sometimes receive up to 70 of these letters per
day, a rather astounding number.

My question is this:

Is there reason to either push for the publication of all Dear Colleague
letters (or some subset of them)?  What would be the ideal publishing
method, and what might be a good incremental step toward that?

I expect that most members would welcome Dear Colleagues' publication, since
they're written similarly to press releases, and are about getting
attention.  

On the technical side, I expect that an ideal situation would be for the
House system to offer a "public" option for Dear Colleague distribution,
where the default is public.  In the meantime, cc-ing some predefined third
party public ingestion email would probably work, with that email connecting
to a database and a public facing index of dear colleagues, functioning on
an opt-in basis.

Any reactions or ideas?  I'm especially interested in any thoughts on why
this would be a bad idea, since I can't think of any.

--
John Wonderlich

Program Director
The Sunlight Foundation
(202) 742-1520 ext. 234


 
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citizencontact  
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 More options Jul 8 2008, 7:41 am
From: citizencontact <dan...@citizencontact.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 04:41:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 8 2008 7:41 am
Subject: Re: On Dear Colleagues
Having set up the first electronic Dear Colleague system for the House
of Representatives (there apparently is a recent upgrade), I tried to
help offices post the Dear Colleagues on their web sites. Also since
the Dear Colleagues often ask others to sign up for cosponsoring
legislation or adding themselves to a group letter, I included a way
to do that on a content management system I built. I have been working
on a new version of this, but have been unable to find any funding to
continue this project. There are lots of potential roadblocks that I
worked out how to get around. By helping the congresspeople add the
Dear Colleagues to their own site as content made the most sense. My
first web version even included metadata that made searches on press
releases, dear colleagues, etc easy based on which bill and other
legislative metadata.

I continue to look for help for this project as well as many others to
help Members have the tools and the understanding to put this type of
information out and end the best format for pulling and searching.

Daniel Bennett
www.advocatehope.org

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