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tom
movement locations have proliferated over the last several weeks. It is
becoming increasingly apparent that virtual worlds, where direct
participation from rural Americans, citizens of other countries, will
all benefit from attending different locations through virtual worlds.
I think it's time to discuss how Open Cobalt can provide a response to
this need. Can you set up a group and let me know when that happens?
Thanks, Tom Poe, Eden Valley, MN
P.S. I have put a strategy together that will establish a local
broadband infrastructure in my town to be able to have all residents
obtain and become familiar with technology that will enable telemedicine
programs to be provided in our town of 1000. The next step will be a
short step to integrating virtual world participation as well.
Carlos Crosetti
address broadband infrastructure to a town, are you with EVDO?
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> Tom, can you share in less than 10 lines how the strategy is to
> address broadband infrastructure to a town, are you with EVDO?
>
as a dollar, I automatically lose my pension. Not with EVDO or any
other organization.
So, lowest cost and klunky wireless mesh network, utilizing
open-mesh.com units, as found with Ypsilanti, MI, Meraki network.
Towns can start at any level they can afford. Establish local broadband
wireless network without Internet access. Once established, the "last
mile solution" leveraged to attract ISP bids for affordable Internet.
Major hospitals can bid in return for access to community for their
telemedicine programs.
If I were writing a ten line description for an Open Cobalt group, it
might go like:
This group formed to discuss how communities can prepare for community
wide virtual world participation by residents. From dedicated recycled
desktops to access nodes to community local access PEG channels to
community Learning Centers within Community Centers and schools. This
is a general forum for Open Cobalt. Of interest, is the current
activities leading communities to demand virtual world participation in
Occupy locations around the world, especially small, rural communities.
Virtual worlds need an infrastructure for community use, and Open Cobalt
is ideally suited to fit any high speed network, whether wireless mesh
or other setup.
Thanks, Tom Poe
Kenneth Wyrick
Thank you so much for initiating this thread. I'm totally excited about
working with a team of people to learning how to assess existing and
projected infrastructure and planning for networking access deployments,
specific to groups within geographic regions of California.
I hope we can organize and project this tonight at the meeting. You seem
to have a good understanding of what can be done, today. I have a few
communities that I'm focused on.
One being Boyle Heights: http://bhnc.us
http://bhnc.us/file-storage/view/theplan/BHNC2.html
see bh location list:
http://bhnc.us/file-storage/view/geonames57994-boyle-heights.csv
http://bhnc.us/file-storage/view/GPS_Coordinates_for_Boyle_Heights.html
Thanks, Tom Poe
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fiber-based mesh networks can be cost effective and affordable for the
masses at the highest available speed, depending on how they are done.
Lawson
tom
so could you highlight the interesting points on the site?
Tom
tom
> Hey Tom,
> I hope we can organize and project this tonight at the meeting. You seem
> to have a good understanding of what can be done, today. I have a few
> communities that I'm focused on.
Several years ago, there was a lot of discussion about "Last Mile"
solution. Today, we need to revisit that issue, and this time, move the
corporations where they belong . . . somewhere else. :)
It's as simple as establishing a local broadband infrastructure that is
low cost, and improving on that infrastructure as a pay as you go basis.
However, simultaneously, several years ago, there was a lot of
discussion about moving our public access tv stations (PEG), or public,
education, government stations into the hands of cable companies. We
own the airwaves, so we need to take back control of our airwaves.
I would suggest one committee be formed to obtain a current franchise
agreement with your community's cable provider, read it, and look for
what the cable provider offers to the public for producing their own tv
and radio shows. Local access tv and radio will be a critical component
both for local broadband infrastructure and for virtual world
activities.
Imagine a city council meeting on virtual world, and when the city
council members make an idiotic statement, you simply ask them to watch
the screen, and play a video/tv/radio show that humiliates them. :)
Do you have a neighborhood community center? If so, you might want to
form a committee to explore what it takes to create a neighborhood
community center Learning Center. That will position you to reach out
for federal grants that are offered through the broadband development
funds available.
Tom
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Eugen Leitl
> Tom, have a look at http://www.eigenglasvezel.net
>
> fiber-based mesh networks can be cost effective and affordable for the
> masses at the highest available speed, depending on how they are done.
The cost bottleneck is earthworks, not splicing and even less so
operation.
Even with municipally owned (duct+fiber) infrastructure there are costs
of few kEUR/resident, which is not much but most people don't see
it that way for some reason.
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Lawson English
between the villages. Within the villages, at least in some places,
there's no need to dig to join households.
L.
Eugen Leitl
> The trick is to let the people with the tools dig their own ditches
> between the villages. Within the villages, at least in some places,
Yes, this is how it is done in some peripheral places
which don't get broadband and get fed up enough to take
things into their own hands.
Very few do.
> there's no need to dig to join households.
It is always an excellent idea to bury infrastructure. When digging,
it is always best to lay ducts, so that you can upgrade the infrastructure
afterwards easily by pulling (or blowing in) new fiber.
Lawson English
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 01:33:03AM -0700, Lawson English wrote:
>> The trick is to let the people with the tools dig their own ditches
>> between the villages. Within the villages, at least in some places,
> Yes, this is how it is done in some peripheral places
> which don't get broadband and get fed up enough to take
> things into their own hands.
>
> Very few do.
>
>> there's no need to dig to join households.
> It is always an excellent idea to bury infrastructure. When digging,
> it is always best to lay ducts, so that you can upgrade the infrastructure
> afterwards easily by pulling (or blowing in) new fiber.
>
Well, when a village is comprised of homes that have no space between
them, it is often a waste of time to dig a ditch. You can literally
toss, or even hand, a fiber to your nearest neighbor through adjacent
windows, or go over the roof.
Lawson