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Henare Degan  
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From: Henare Degan <henare.de...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:16:09 +1000
Local: Sun, Jun 14 2009 1:16 am
Subject: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!

Hi all,

Thanks to everyone that attended yesterday's hackfest, what a fantastic day!
It was really great to meet you all, learn some things, hopefully help
others, and see the work that came out of the day.

The day kicked off just after midday with Matthew giving us a run down of
how we can get involved and contribute to OpenAustralia (see below for a
reminder). After that, the 40-strong participants worked in groups on
projects they were interested, fix bugs or just get their heads around how
the OA code works.

My personal experience was helping people get the code up-and-running in
their development environment so they can see how it works and hopefully
start contributing. There were quite a few questions during the day so if
you're stuck on anything or have any questions, don't forget to send a mail
to this list. There's a bunch of people ready to help you, and we're bound
to learn something along the way too!

*Projects*

I didn't get a chance to speak to all the people working on
projects<http://wiki.github.com/mlandauer/openaustralia/openaustralia-hackfest...>during
the day and so I'm really hoping people in those groups can reply to
this mail with a few sentences about what you did during the day, any new
opportunities you found or any problems you ran into:

   - OA-277 <http://tickets.openaustralia.org/browse/OA-277> Set up of open
   source video infrastructure for publishing Ogg Theora/Vorbis video in
   HTML5 video tag (Silvia Pfeiffer)
   - OA-178 <http://tickets.openaustralia.org/browse/OA-178> Wordpress
   plugin – Sherif worked on this. You can track progress
here.<http://blog.sherifmansour.com/?p=363>
   - OA-280 <http://tickets.openaustralia.org/browse/OA-280> iPhone version
   of FixMyStreet clone – Jake worked on this with Nat and Chris
   - OA-195 <http://tickets.openaustralia.org/browse/OA-195> Register of
   Members’ Interests Data Entry Tool (RMIDET) – Keiran worked on this with
   Tim.
   - OA-250 <http://tickets.openaustralia.org/browse/OA-250> Capitol Words
   equivalent… only with phrase support, weighted with “unlikely occurrence of
   words together” statistic. Mary Gardiner
   - MP Contact Details
scrapers<http://wiki.github.com/mlandauer/openaustralia/mp-contact-details-scr...>for
obtaining MP contact details from other States

Even if you weren't in one of these groups, please don't hesitate to write
up your experiences, send them to this list, blog or tweet about them (and
send us a link!).

*Statistics*

During the day we had:

   - Five total commits, two to the web application and three to the parser
   - Nine issues in total updated in the bug tracker, with four issues
   resolved
   - A number of new developers added to the bug tracker so there's now over
   10 people that can update tickets

There's a lot more effort that's not in these numbers that hopefully will be
coming out in the days ahead as people start releasing their results from
the day.

Pretty impressive for a first effort I think, as Matthew
says<http://software.openaustralia.org/install-parser.html>,
"Give yourself a big pat on the back!" :)

*Get Involved*

Matthew gave a great introduction where he reminded us of how we can all get
involved:

   - Sign-up to the Dev Mailing List -
   http://groups.google.com.au/group/openaustralia-dev/
      - If you're getting this email, you already are signed up, so please
      forward this to others that were at the hackfest that might not have got
      around to it
   - Download the software that runs OpenAustralia -
   http://software.openaustralia.org/
   - Check the trouble tickets in our bug tracker to find things to fix or
   new things to build - http://tickets.openaustralia.org/
   - Edit our development wiki at github -
   http://wiki.github.com/mlandauer/openaustralia
   - Follow us on Twitter - http://twitter.com/OpenAustralia

Thanks again to the core organisers, Matthew, Kat and Sarah for initiating
such an excellent event, thanks to Google, Tim and James for an excellent
venue and facilities but thanks most of all to everyone that came and made
it the great day it was.

Cheers,

Henare

PS. Don't forget to tag your
photos<http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=oah09&m=tags>and tweets
about the day <http://search.twitter.com/search?q=oah09> oah09 so we can
find them
PPS. We'll be posting this summary to our development
blog<http://blog.openaustralia.org/>once the projects send in their
updates, so please get them in as soon as
you can
PPPS. Apologies for the HTML mail but it seems to be OK on this mailing
list. Feel free to flame me if not :)


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Rob Manson  
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From: Rob Manson <roB...@MOBusiness.com.au>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:35:17 +1000
Local: Sun, Jun 14 2009 1:35 am
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!
Hey Henare,

sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you yesterday.

After fighting with my php installation (grumble) I made some good
progress on the mobile version of OpenAustralia.org.

http://tickets.openaustralia.org/browse/OA-276

I've got the device detection working at the apache conf level and have
cut down index.php to be more relevant for mobile devices (e.g. simpler
css/layout and only 10 items in "recent debates" summaries, etc.).

I'm working on the search results pages and a few other simple pages and
should be able to check that in or supply a diff in a couple of days.

FYI: The files that will be updated are:

        openaustralia/twfy/conf/httpd.conf
        openaustralia/twfy/www/docs/mobile.php
        openaustralia/twfy/www/docs/iphone.php
        openaustralia/twfy/www/docs/style/default/mobile.css
        openaustralia/twfy/www/docs/style/default/global_non_ns4_mobile.css
        openaustralia/twfy/www/includes/easyparliament/page.php
        openaustralia/twfy/www/includes/easyparliament/skin.php
        openaustralia/twfy/www/includes/utility.php

I'll update the ticket when I'm ready to check some stuff in.

Yesterday was amazing...I couldn't believe how great the turn-out was!

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Henare Degan  
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From: Henare Degan <henare.de...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:49:36 +1000
Local: Sun, Jun 14 2009 1:49 am
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!

Hi Rob,

Thanks very much for the quick reply and wow, the progress on your mobile
version sounds great! I can't wait to see the commits coming out soon. I
think this might open up other opportunities in the mobile area for us to
explore. Very cool.

I'll make sure this detail gets added to our blog post about the day.

Cheers,

Henare


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Silvia Pfeiffer  
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From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiff...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:44:39 +1000
Local: Sun, Jun 14 2009 3:44 am
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!

<..>

> Even if you weren't in one of these groups, please don't hesitate to write
> up your experiences, send them to this list, blog or tweet about them (and
> send us a link!).

I've not got very far with this yet. I was planning on putting a Ogg
Theora/Vorbis video into a page, probably Kate Lundy's page, and
providing all the necessary javascript for it. But in the end I just
registered and installed the web software, got it working on my mac,
and had nearly 2 hours of chats with people around me. I also posted
some articles to a new website that we are developing that is meant to
help people get started with Ogg (see http://new.annodex.net/), but
it's still early days for that.

If you want to check out where I want to take us, go to
http://www.metavid.org/. It has video search down to the detailed
level by using transcripts such as Hansard as an index into the
videos. Once somebody else here has sorted out how to get hold of the
parliamentary recordings of state and federal, we can get that working
in a similar way. One step at a time!

Cheers,
Silvia.


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Henare Degan  
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From: Henare Degan <henare.de...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:00:10 +1000
Local: Sun, Jun 14 2009 4:00 am
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:44, Silvia Pfeiffer

<silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've not got very far with this yet. I was planning on putting a Ogg
> Theora/Vorbis video into a page, probably Kate Lundy's page, and
> providing all the necessary javascript for it. But in the end I just
> registered and installed the web software, got it working on my mac,
> and had nearly 2 hours of chats with people around me. I also posted
> some articles to a new website that we are developing that is meant to
> help people get started with Ogg (see http://new.annodex.net/), but
> it's still early days for that.

Hi Silvia,

Thanks very much for the update, great to hear you got the web app up
and running. I think a lot of the chats were just as useful for
inspiring us, which is why I was keen to hear other peoples
experiences :)

> If you want to check out where I want to take us, go to
> http://www.metavid.org/. It has video search down to the detailed
> level by using transcripts such as Hansard as an index into the
> videos. Once somebody else here has sorted out how to get hold of the
> parliamentary recordings of state and federal, we can get that working
> in a similar way. One step at a time!

One step at a time indeed! I've added OA-285 to our issue tracker to
track us getting access to the videos. I remember we had a bit of a
chat about this at linux.conf.au 2009 and someone mentioned speaking
to the ABC about getting access to their video - maybe someone closer
to the issue can add details to that ticket.

Thanks again,

Henare


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Sherif  
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From: Sherif <sherifgmans...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:28:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Jun 14 2009 7:28 am
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!
Awesome stuff. Thanks for organising the day guys.

I'm hoping to get the wordpress up ready for downloading and use in a
week or so... just trying to get past my exams :-)

Ill keep the Jira case updated

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From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiff...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:46:12 +1000
Local: Sun, Jun 14 2009 8:46 am
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!
Awesome! And thanks for organising the day!!
Silvia.


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Henare Degan  
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From: Henare Degan <henare.de...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:51:09 +1000
Local: Sun, Jun 14 2009 8:51 am
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 21:28, Sherif<sherifgmans...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Awesome stuff. Thanks for organising the day guys.

> I'm hoping to get the wordpress up ready for downloading and use in a
> week or so... just trying to get past my exams :-)

> Ill keep the Jira case updated

Hey Sherif,

It was great to meet you yesterday and great to see your cool work on
the Wordpress plugin, I'm really looking forward to seeing the code
(I'll keep my eye on the ticket).

Once you get the code up we can use it as an example for the first new
development to use the API! (Like the Examples section on the TWFY API
page http://www.theyworkforyou.com/api/)

Good luck with your exams too.

Cheers,

Henare


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From: Mark Stanton <mark.stan...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:38:16 +1000
Local: Mon, Jun 15 2009 12:38 am
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!

Hi All
I've been watching the progress of openaustralia.org with interest for a
while and was disappointed I couldn't make the hackfest on the weekend (was
freezing my butt off in a tent up the coast).

Anyway I'm keen get involved.

I've downloaded the app this morning and have it all running on my laptop so
I'm pretty much good to go. OA-173 looks like an obvious candidate, back am
open to other suggestions.

Can someone set me up in JIRA?

Cheers
Mark

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Matthew Landauer  
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From: Matthew Landauer <matt...@openaustralia.org>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:56:54 +1000
Local: Mon, Jun 15 2009 12:56 am
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!
That's great! I've set you up with developer permissions on JIRA so
you can now assign yourself tickets.

As far as I know nobody else is working on OA-173 so it's totally
yours. Please just go for it.

All the best,
Matthew


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Henare Degan  
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From: Henare Degan <henare.de...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:58:43 +1000
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Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 14:38, Mark Stanton<mark.stan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can someone set me up in JIRA?

Hi Mark,

Great to hear! Sign up on
http://tickets.openaustralia.org/secure/Signup!default.jspa then email
your username to the list and someone will make you a developer so you
can assign the ticket to yourself and mark it as In Progress when you
start working on it.

Cheers,

Henare


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Mark Stanton  
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:00:59 +1000
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Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!

Done. Username is mark.stanton.
Cheers
Mark

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:44:11 +1000
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Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!
Matthew,

While you're setting Jira permissions - can you please make me a dev  
too so I can add some more detail about the 'fixmystreet' clone?  
Actually, could you add a 'fix my street' module too (so I can group  
related issues)?

Thanks,

Jake

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Matthew Landauer  
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:10:47 +1000
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Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!
Done and done. :)


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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:37:19 +1000
Local: Mon, Jun 15 2009 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Henare Degan<henare.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Statistics

> During the day we had:

> Five total commits, two to the web application and three to the parser
> Nine issues in total updated in the bug tracker, with four issues resolved
> A number of new developers added to the bug tracker so there's now over 10
> people that can update tickets

> There's a lot more effort that's not in these numbers that hopefully will be
> coming out in the days ahead as people start releasing their results from
> the day.

And one CPAN release. :)

http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/Politics-AU-Geo-0.01/

Adam K


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Henare Degan  
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From: Henare Degan <henare.de...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:03:11 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: Sydney Hackfest 2009 Was Amazing!

Very cool Adam, sorry I missed this in the original announcement. I
liked the blog post[0] you did too, I found it after the OpenAustralia
tweet[1].

Cheers,

Henare

[0] http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/39123
[1] http://twitter.com/OpenAustralia/status/2175461523


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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:16:05 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: Politics-AU-Geo-0.01
Adam,

Does this Perl module include the electorates data? For all of  
Australia? For all levels of government?

Or does it use the OpenAustralia database?

At the hackfest the other day there was some mention of a service  
being developed that would provide geo-location > electorate mapping  
for all levels of government. I was wondering if this is that?

Cheers,

Jake

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From: Jeffery Candiloro <jeff...@astraaustralis.com.au>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:09:36 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: Politics-AU-Geo-0.01
G'Day Jake,

I'm the guy responsible for myrepresentatives.org which I suspect is the
service you heard mention of on Sat.  The Perl module that Adam talks
about is the first pass at modularising the code behind
myrepresentatives.org.

At the moment, the DB contains the geo data for the House of Reps, the
Senate, and the NSW and Vic Legislative Assemblies and Legislative
Councils as well as the details of the elected officials in all those
chambers.  There is some other member data in there but no matching geo
data.

I am working on a couple of simultaneous projects.  One, getting more
geo data.  To date, this has been sourced from Mapinfo files published
by electoral commissions that are processed with custom Perl code.  I am
working on adding the kml data provided by http://www.tallyroom.com.au/maps.

The other project is a scraper to gather data on all the elected
officials in Australia at all three levels of govt.  You can find this
code at http://svn.ali.as/cpan/websites/myrepresentatives.org/members/ .
  If you want more info on that, email me directly.

My aim is to eventually combine the geo and the member data for all
representative chambers in Australia (which run to approx 580 bodies)
and make the data available at myrepresentatives.org (app, DB, API,
whichever there is demand for).  Adam's aim is to modularise all of this
and make it available via CPAN (which you can get more info on via his
journal posting).

At the moment there is no linkage between this and OA although I would
hope that eventually there will be for very obvious reasons.

Cheers

Jeffery


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From: Mark Stanton <mark.stan...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:33:34 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: Politics-AU-Geo-0.01

Hi Jeffery
Sounds interesting and potentially relevant to the work I'm starting on
http://tickets.openaustralia.org/browse/OA-173. Can I pick your brains about
mapping data & options at some point?

Cheers
Mark

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From: Jake MacMullin <jmacmul...@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:48:29 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: Politics-AU-Geo-0.01
Jeffery,

Thanks for the speedy and informative reply. I'm interested in working  
on an Australian 'FixMyStreet' style application (as an iPhone app in  
the first instance - though that'll require some server-side code  
which may grow over time). As such, I'm going to need a geo-location  
(lat/long) to local-government look-up service. Is this something  
you're planning on supporting?

Ideally, I'd love to be able to provide a lat/long and get back the  
name of the local government body, a contact name, and a contact e-
mail for the purposes of reporting problems. Obviously you're probably  
not planning on tackling this last part (name, phone and e-mail for  
the person to contact at the govt body), but are you planning on doing  
the first part?

If so - what's your timeframe? and how are you planning on making this  
available? RESTful service? free for anyone to use as they wish? Open-
source code/data?

Cheers,

Jake

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Matthew Landauer  
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From: Matthew Landauer <matt...@openaustralia.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:06:50 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: Politics-AU-Geo-0.01

I think the lookup from lat/long to government body, contact name and email
should be done on the server side. The web app (be it based on the current
fixmystreet code from the UK or something new) will need to do that lookup.
So, there's no need to duplicate all that logic on the client side.

Matthew


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Jake MacMullin  
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From: Jake MacMullin <jmacmul...@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:08:15 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 9:08 pm
Subject: Re: Politics-AU-Geo-0.01

Matthew,

Yes, that was my intention.

Cheers,

Jake

On 17/06/2009, at 11:06 AM, Matthew Landauer wrote:


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Kieren Diment  
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From: Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:09:05 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: Politics-AU-Geo-0.01

On 17/06/2009, at 10:48 AM, Jake MacMullin wrote:

Here's your basic web service - lat/long electorate resolver (written  
with fastcgi for efficiency - I'm guessing the db connection is  
expensive) - also untested :)  Also based on my reading of the  
incomplete data.

Request with:  http://my.host/electorate?lat=11.11&long=12.22
Returns JSON of electorate data.

#!/usr/bin/env perl
use warnings;
use strict;
use FindBin qw/$Bin/;
use Au::Politics::Geo "$Bin/db.sqlite" ;
use CGI::Simple;
use JSON::Any;
use FCGI;

while($request->Accept() >= 0) {
     my $q = CGI::Simple->new;
     my $lat = $q->param('lat');
     my $long = $q->param('long');
     my @electorates = Politics::AU::Geo->geo2electorates($lat, $long)
         or die "couldn't find electorates from lat: $lat and long:  
$long\n"
     my $j = JSON::Any->new;

     print $q->header(-type => 'application/json');
     print $j->objToJson(\@electorates);


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Kieren Diment  
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From: Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:10:08 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: Politics-AU-Geo-0.01

On 17/06/2009, at 11:09 AM, Kieren Diment wrote:

> Here's your basic web service - lat/long electorate resolver (written
> with fastcgi for efficiency - I'm guessing the db connection is
> expensive) - also untested :)  Also based on my reading of the
> incomplete data.

err, incomplete docs.  Sorry.

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From: Matthew Landauer <matt...@openaustralia.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:11:11 +1000
Local: Tues, Jun 16 2009 9:11 pm
Subject: Re: Politics-AU-Geo-0.01

Awesome. I'll just keep quiet and move off to the side. ;-)


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