Fwd: Open Web Developer Network (OWDN.org) IRC Meetup for September 2nd, 2009

[Bradley Neuberg]

FYI

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From: Brad Neuberg <bradn...@google.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Subject: Open Web Developer Network (OWDN.org) IRC Meetup for September 2nd, 2009
To: openwe...@googlegroups.com, svg...@googlegroups.com, devrel <dev...@google.com>


If you have a comment on something in the notes please directly edit the Wiki for this page at http://groups.google.com/group/openweb-group/web/ircseptember20-2009 rather than having a long email thread here. Don't be afraid to edit the wiki :)

- Open Web Developer Network (OWDN.org) IRC Meetup for September 2nd,
  2009
    - Summary
        - Resolved
            - Will have branded sections, such as Doctype for reference
              wiki, View Source for demos + annotated cookbook details,
              etc.
            - Don't duplicate content from around the web for OWDN
              Doctype; for now, just migrate Google Doctype to
              Mediawiki and start from there. At bottom of each Wiki
              page have a Wikipedia style "Further References" section
              that can point to good material around the web.
            - We aren't going to do fancy live combining of developer
              resources on the web such as from Mozilla Dev Center on
              the Doctype wiki.
            - Code will _not_ be under a Creative Commons license, but
              rather a standard open source license
            - Brad will PM with veto power
            - At some point will have admins to help resolve dispute
            - Audience: web developers and designers
            - Governance:
                - Rough consensus shipping prose
                - Run like an open source project
                - Influence happens through action and contributions,
                  not by endless discussion
                - Better to ask for forgiveness
                - At some point will have admins, but to decide those
                  will simply formalize who is already contributing the
                  most ("Vote with your sweat")
        - Open Issues
            - Which Creative Commons license (CC 0, CC Attribution, or
              CC-Attribution-Share Alike?)
            - For code, BSD or Apache 2 (Doctype is already under BSD,
              Brad prefers Apache 2).
            - Mockup for main page + logo are unresolved
        - Action Items (due 2 weeks from September 2nd at next IRC
          meeting)
            - Steve Souders - will flesh out "High Performance Web
              Sites" section plus possibly rename it
            - Trevor Parscal - Will setup a Mediawiki instance for us
              on Mediawiki Foundation servers for us to use as our work
              Wiki; will also email Brad Neuberg DNS IP details
            - Brad Neuberg - Will migrate Open Web Advocacy Google
              Group Wiki to Trevor's Wiki; will point owdn.org at the
              DNS addresses Trevor emails; will update Proposal page
              with results of IRC meeting; will schedule next meeting
            - Kaliya - Will work to bring in more female developers
              into the planning process so we can have their opinion --
              perhaps you can have a target of 3 female developers such
              as Nicole Sullivan join us at next IRC meeting? Also work
              on providing specific feedback on what would be most
              interesting and appealing to them.
            - Tantek Celik - Will help contribute to "What is an 'open'
              standard"
            - Important tasks without volunteer - Trevor Parscal needs
              someone with UI and UX experience to mockup Doctype
              Mediawiki page + create an OWDN logo and also provide
              feedback on the mockups he's already made:
              http://openweb-group.googlegroups.com/web/OpenWeb-Mockup-0
              1-TrevorParscal.pdf and
              http://openweb-group.googlegroups.com/web/OpenWeb-Logo-01-
              TrevorParscal.svg
        - Current Proposal
            - The Open Web Developer Network (owdn.org) will be an open
              encyclopedia, reference library, and advocacy site for
              the open web. OWDN.org will have various 'branded'
              sections dedicated to different tasks; some of these
              sections may get cut; we will prioritize which to start
              with and start small.

                  * Doctype - Reference work for the Open Web -- a
              reference wiki combining the material from Google Doctype
              initially running on Mediawiki
                  * View Source - Cool demos using Open Web tech
              coupled with a cookbook style breakdown of how they were
              done -- many of the demos will be under a Apache 2
              License so developers can grab them and use them as a
              basis for moving forward. Anyone can submit demos +
              cookbook and users can rank them using YouTube style
              rating.
                  * State of the Open Web - News and updates on the
              Open Web, with material initially from Ajaxian, A List
              Apart, the Webkit blog, the FF blogs, etc.
                  * High Performance Web Sites  - Performance tips and
              tricks for faster web apps and web sites, powered by much
              of the material Steve Souders has been creating; also
              open to community engagement
                  * Dashboard - Find out what open web technologies are
              usable on what user agents
                  * Around the Web - Useful tutorials, blog posts,
              reference works, videos, around the web, reddit style
                  * Tutorials - Traditional textual tutorials as well
              as video tutorials
                  * Take this Code! - Library of cut and paste code
              snippets ready to use. Individual code snippets can be
              tagged by technology used and can be ranked by users with
              YouTube-style rating stars. Anyone can contribute; all
              snippets are under Apache 2 license.
                  * The Open Web In Your Editor (better name needed) -
              Marked up versions of the material above that can be
              automated and suitable for importing/exposing through an
              API for cool IDE integration

              The Open Web Developer Network will have a strong focus
              on community in order to make the site sustainable so
              that new material is submitted on a regular basis, as
              well as to create a movement around the Open Web. There
              will be an organizing section modeled after the Barcamp
              and Coworking Wikis where people can organize by
              geographical area to do one or two day 'sprints' to
              contribute material to OWDN.org. Leader boards and top
              contributors by individuals and teams (SETI@Home style)
              will be identified to help create momentum.

              All material will be under a Creative Commons license; CC
              0 (no restrictions) is preferred, CC Attribution if that
              is not realistic (still need to investigate).

    - Raw IRC Transcript at http://groups.google.com/group/openweb-group/web/ircseptember20-2009


Best,
 Brad

 bradn...@google.com