pilot program access suspended

[Edward Ocampo-Gooding]

Hi guys,

We heard from the city this morning that the pilot program has been suspended while they work out some internal issues.

I'm not privy to discuss what exactly they are, but basically they want to review and the quality of the data being given to us so that there isn't any confusion down the line when the pipes get opened up to MAXIMUM CAPACITY </dials volume up to 11>

== FAQ ==

Q) Wtf - it was going so well!

A) Yes! The pilot program was a huge success. Jonathan is telling me that he was easily hitting 1500 uniques a day and that the growth curve was looking amazing. The fact that I have a few dozen people grumbling about this is a sign that we're on to something and that we've got a great case for ending the pilot and opening up access to be an institutional service like Twitter and Google's APIs.

Please don't take this as access shutting down permanently - this is just the beginning, and our contacts across the city are telling us that they're all (councillors & staff) on board for making this service become a primo example of what open data can look like.

Q) When do I get my GPS feed back?

A) I don't have an ETA of when the feed will be restored. My guess is that we won't have it open for at least a month. Any news I hear will definitely be posted here.

Q) But what about the apps that depend on it for the apps4ottawa contest?

A) The timing sucks, but that was the deal - service & access would be unpredictable might be cut off without notice. It just means that when it's turned back on again, it'll make another splash in the media.

Q) What about the media who've been running stories about how this is going to roll out?

A) They get the same story we get. It'll be ok - prospective users will be like "ohey, I can haz GPS? Amazing. There was a successful pilot program? That sounds like the city and council are going to do their best to make it happen for real."

Let me know if you guys have any other questions or concerns. If you prefer to be private, reach me at in...@opendataottawa.ca

Edward

[Shawn M. Hooper]

thanks for the update edward.
Hopefully they'll resolve these "internal issues" soon.

Shawn
Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

[Don Kelly]

Anyone save some test XML files? I've got a few but they're full of
buses with no gps data.

Don/

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[Dave Schindler]

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[Sean Kibbee]

Yes, thanks for the speedy response Edward. I appreciate you letting us know the real deal.

Sean

[swf...@gmail.com]

Hi Edward,

Thanks very much for the information.

Given that OCTranspo are presumably working on the system, is it worth arranging a get together with Biju so we can discuss the API?   

Also, if they are planning any API changes or adding new calls it would be good to have some heads up on what the new API will be so we can hit the ground running when the service comes back up.

Thanks again for the update.

John

[Edward Ocampo-Gooding]

Hey John,

Sure, I'm up for talking about this stuff any time.

Biju: interested in meeting up with the group sometime soon?