Conservatives simply will NEVER win a majority with a Western Canadian leader
Robert Peffers
Party *snicker* the Conservative Party of Canada will ever secure a
majority government is if they elect a Red Tory as their leader and
present an electoral platform which is socially liberal, economically
progressive, and environmentally aware.
I believe the following Red Tories could win a majority government for
the Conservative Party of Canada, if and when they become its next
leader:
Lawrence Cannon MP (Quebec)
Jean-Pierre Blackburn MP (Quebec)
Sylvie Boucher MP (Quebec)
Josée Verner MP (Quebec)
Jean Charest MNA & current Premier (Quebec)
Bernard Lord former Premier (New Brunswick)
Danny Williams MLA & current Premier (Newfoundland & Labrador)
Rodney MacDonald former Premier (Nova Scotia)
Pat Binns former Premier (Prince Edward Island)
Hugh Segal (Ontario)
Janet Ecker former MPP & cabinet minister (Ontario)
Elizabeth Witmer MPP (Ontario)
The leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada must fall back to a
moderate, centrist, socially liberal, economically progressive, and
environmentally aware Red Tory from Eastern Canada. No more Western
Canadian American Republican-style populist Redneck trailer trash!!!.
-Robert James (Auld Bob) Peffers
Conservatives maintain lead but still shy of majority: poll
Andrew Mayeda, Canwest News Service
Published: Monday, October 12, 2009
Chris Wattie/Reuters
Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper speaks during Question Period
in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Oct. 7, 2009.
OTTAWA -- Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives continue to
enjoy a big lead in popular support over the opposition Liberals, but
will need to shore up support in Ontario or Quebec to break into
majority territory, a new poll suggests.
If an election were held tomorrow, the Conservatives would receive 39%
of support among decided voters across the country, up two percentage
points from a survey in late September. The Liberals are running at
29%, down one point, according to the Ipsos Reid poll, commissioned by
Canwest News Service and Global National.
The NDP remains in third place nationally with 13%, down a point,
followed by the Bloc Quebecois with 10%, up one point, and the Green
Party at 8%, down a point.
Eight per cent of voters are undecided.
The poll was conducted between Oct. 6 and 8, while the prime minister
was still basking in his surprise performance at a National Arts
Centre gala on the weekend. Accompanied by renowned cellist Yo-Yo Ma,
Mr. Harper played the piano and sang the Beatles song "With a Little
Help From My Friends." The performance drew favourable reviews and
became a YouTube sensation.
Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff, meanwhile, has gone through a rough
patch that has included challenges to his leadership on several
fronts, the resignation of Quebec lieutenant Denis Coderre and a move
by Liberal senators to rewrite a crime bill that Mr. Ignatieff has
supported.
Several recent polls have shown the Conservatives hovering around 40%
in national support, the level often considered to be the threshold
that a party must reach to win a majority.
But Ipsos pollster Darrel Bricker said the actual majority threshold
for the Tories is likely several points higher, because of the
"inefficiency" of the party's support base. For example, the party's
base is concentrated in Alberta and the Prairies, which together
account for 49 of the Conservative's 143 seats in the House of
Commons.
"There have been some suggestions that the Tories are close to a
majority, but I don't think these numbers show that," said Mr.
Bricker, CEO of Ipsos Reid Public Affairs.
In Quebec, the Bloc have widened their lead to 40%, followed by the
Liberals with 26% and the Conservatives with 20%. For the Tories, that
represents a significant improvement from the summer, when they had
fallen below 10% in support.
Nevertheless, the Conservatives are still polling slightly below the
level they attained in Quebec in the last election.
In Ontario, the Conservatives lead with 40%, compared with 36% for the
Liberals.
"They're still challenged in Quebec, and they're still not far enough
ahead in Ontario that they can comfortably claim to be able to form a
majority," said Mr. Bricker.
Mr. Bricker said Mr. Harper's musical exploits could help him in the
long term, but in the short term, the prime minister needs to continue
avoiding partisan clashes. "The more prime ministerial he appears, the
more he's focused on the business of the nation, the better it is for
him."
All is not lost for Mr. Ignatieff, added Mr. Bricker, noting that
former prime ministers such as Jean Chretien initially struggled as
opposition leaders.
"If the NDP keeps supporting the government, there's a fair amount of
water to go under the bridge here."
In the Atlantic provinces, the Liberals are ahead with 46%, compared
with 35% for the Tories.
In the Prairies, the Tories dominate the Liberals, 67% to 19%.
They also dominate in Alberta, with 60%, followed distantly by the
Liberals with 16%.
In British Columbia, the Conservatives lead with 47%, followed by the
NDP with 28% and the Grits with 18%.
Ipsos interviewed 1,000 Canadian adults by phone to complete the poll,
which is considered accurate within 3.1 percentage points, 19 times
out of 20.
Regional figures, which have smaller sample sizes, have significantly
higher margins of error.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/politics/story.html?id=2094022
Charlie Yankee
> The only way the Reform Party of Canada *giggle* the Canadian Alliance
> Party *snicker* the Conservative Party of Canada will ever secure a
> majority government is if they elect a Red Tory as their leader and
> present an electoral platform which is socially liberal, economically
> progressive, and environmentally aware.
>
> I believe the following Red Tories could win a majority government for
> the Conservative Party of Canada, if and when they become its next
> leader:
>
> Lawrence Cannon MP (Quebec)
> Jean-Pierre Blackburn MP (Quebec)
> Sylvie Boucher MP (Quebec)
> Josée Verner MP (Quebec)
> Jean Charest MNA & current Premier (Quebec)
> Bernard Lord former Premier (New Brunswick)
> Danny Williams MLA & current Premier (Newfoundland & Labrador)
> Rodney MacDonald former Premier (Nova Scotia)
> Pat Binns former Premier (Prince Edward Island)
> Hugh Segal (Ontario)
> Janet Ecker former MPP & cabinet minister (Ontario)
> Elizabeth Witmer MPP (Ontario)
Well, you stopped short of suggesting the exhuming of Dalton Camp, for
which I'm sure we're all grateful.
But as Red Tories go, none are redder than David Orchard. Oh wait,
he's from Saskatchewan, and a farmer on top of it, so I guess he
doesn't qualify as far as you're concerned.
Come to think of it, the West has produced many prominent Red Tories
over the years, such as Diefenbaker and Clark (who was from, horror of
horrors, Alberta). Of course, if you actually knew anything about
Canada, you'd be aware of all that.
Actually, you're a bit of a Red Tory type yourself, aren't you - that
strange mix of egalitarianism with elitism, the noblesse oblige, the
unapologetic statism. You'd be quite happy in the company of someone
like Ron Dart (if he wasn't from British Columbia, that is). ;-)
jimjames5417
wrote:
Poor racist Fraud Old Boob - > In British Columbia, the Conservatives
lead with 47%, followed by the
> NDP with 28% and the Grits with 18%. As the economy improves - people are seeing what having
an honest government can do!!
Len McLaughlin
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The only way the Reform Party of Canada *giggle* the Canadian Alliance
Party *snicker* the Conservative Party of Canada will ever secure a
majority government is if they elect a Red Tory as their leader and
present an electoral platform which is socially liberal, economically
progressive, and environmentally aware.
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It's probably true that the Cons will never win again w/o a PM from Quebec.
Then there's the media who seems determined to keep Canada a one party
state by portraying the Liberals as the only party who can run the country
and finding fault with everything the Cons do. Notice that when Harper
hits close to the magic 40% in the polls the media goes into a panic mode.
The CBC competes with CTV who competes with the G&M to see who can make the
biggest mtn out of the smallest mole hill re the Cons.
One part of Harper's 'secret agenda' is the CBC being on his hit list and
they know it..so much for impartiality.
When they find one Afghan with a cut to the head its a 'bomb shell' or its a
'reversal' when the chief of staff finds the one memo confirming it.
Neither sound like bomb or reversal to me but, it must work on the weak
minded.
So, three years after the fact what can be gained by wasting all this time
other than put the Liberals back on the throne? Think of all the time the
Liberal dominated committee wasted on Mulroney just before the economic
slump hit. Maybe the gov't could have been even better prepared if all
that time hadn't been wasted on Mulroney. Initial reports had cleared
Mulroney but that didn't deter the Liberals and the Afghan thing is
following the same path. When Liberal fortunes don't look good it's all
hands to the pumps and that includes the media and ambassadors, retired or
not.
How many retired Liberal appointed ambassadors do you think are really
interested in the possible torture of some militants 3 years ago in an
Afghan prison or are mortified over the gov't not agreeing with Ambassador
Colvin's assessment of the war effort and his attempt to gain the spot
light.
I thought both judges and ambassadors were suppose to non-partisan . Has
ambassador made law now joined the judge made law?
Consider Ambassador Colvin who was so desperate to kick start his slumping
career that he was the only volunteer to a dangerous Afghanistan. After
having the previous ambassador killed , the military was told not to let
this guy get killed. This resulted in Colvin being confined to base,
screwing up his plans for the spot light.
So he attempts to get noticed by interviewing local Afghans about torture
and sending out exaggerated e-mails by the dozen. How many past
ambassadors have gained so much attention or have sent out e-mail by the
dozen. Then when none of this worked, he saw his claim to fame as being a
whistle blower , gambling on a reward from the Liberals getting back in
power. Liberal dominated committees got Karl Schreiber a lot of public
attention and sympathy, why not Colvin?
-lm
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{The Media is The Problem}
Neil K
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Its sad to see that despite all the recent treatment Len is just as
delusional as ever.
Roy
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Maybe you should tell them to "turn up the juice" Neil as the shock
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Len McLaughlin
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On Dec 13, 4:41 pm, "Neil K" <spring...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> "Len McLaughlin" <len...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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Maybe you should tell them to "turn up the juice" Neil as the shock
therapy is not bringing the patient under control.
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It's nice to know you two lovable but naive guys are still haunting Can
Politics. The biggest shock I get is realizing that you guys aren't getting
any smarter, just older. I suppose that it's too much to ask for a more
detailed rebuttal for a very reasonable rant. (:-) I know, I know, you're
too busy for anything too deep.
-Len