Once again, the NDP stand with the people of Canada . . . .
macksamillion
Jeezus! It really feels like it's time to go LEFT in a big way and get rid of those
governments who've been passing themselves off as "moderate" - which now includes the
LIBERALS along with the very transparent 'Conservatives' of the Harper Tories.
Federal and provincial New Democrats call on Parliament to block HST
Mon 07 Dec 2009
OTTAWA � New Democrat Leader Jack Layton, BC NDP Leader Carole James, and Ontario NDP
Leader Andrea Horwath today called on all Members of Parliament to block the HST by voting
down enabling legislation being debated in the House of Commons.
�It�s time for politicians to start listening to the people who elected them. They�ve been
clear. They don�t want to pay a new unfair tax," said Layton. �New Democrats have
consistently opposed the HST because it is the wrong tax at the wrong time.�
With the federal Conservatives plowing ahead with their plan to impose the HST on the
people of British Columbia and Ontario, New Democrats came together today to voice their
strong, united opposition to the tax.
The New Democrat Leaders denounced the Harper government�s plan to ram through the federal
legislation which will open the door for the provincial governments to implement the new
tax.
�British Columbians continue to be overwhelmingly opposed to this tax grab by a desperate
BC Liberal government that didn�t tell the truth during the campaign. And the BC New
Democrats will take every opportunity to stop the HST from being implemented,� said James.
�For families struggling with the recession a new 8 per cent tax on everything from home
heating to Christmas trees is kicking them when they�re down,� said Horwath. "Ontario
families have said 'no' and their politicians need to listen."
�Now, with federal and provincial Liberals walking in lockstep with the Conservative
government, we are taking every opportunity to stop this punitive and unfair tax,� said
Layton. �We�re asking all MPs to stand up for the people who elected them and vote no to
the government�s bill.�
Pat Bay
"macksamillion" <macksa...@work.now> wrote in message
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> And AGAINST the taxing politics of the rightwing governments of Canada and
> the Provinces. Jeezus! It really feels like it's time to go LEFT in a big
> way and get rid of those governments who've been passing themselves off as
> "moderate" - which now includes the LIBERALS along with the very
> transparent 'Conservatives' of the Harper Tories.
>
> Federal and provincial New Democrats call on Parliament to block HST
> Mon 07 Dec 2009
>
> Parliament to block the HST by voting down enabling legislation being
> debated in the House of Commons.
Didn't happen.
durablepsyche
>> I heard 85% of British Columbians don't want the HST. I don't know
>> about the other provinces or nationally, but that's pretty blatant to
>> impose a tax on the people when they have spoken through these polls.
>> Thats not democracy.
"Pat Bay" <p...@rocklandzbc.com> wrote in message news:dLbUm.56908$PH1.42535@edtnps82...
> The polls are not a vote in a democratic sense. They are just an indicator
> of for or against at a certain point in time. The people in B.C. had their
> chance to defeat the BC Liberals in May's election, and they did not.
Would that have been the election that Premier Gordon Campbell preceded with:
"While some British Columbians have suggested that a harmonized PST and GST might be
beneficial, others have pointed out that it would extend the PST tax base to a broader
range of goods and services that are presently exempt from the provincial sales tax�.
"The B.C. Liberals are also mindful that a harmonized GST would reduce the provincial
government's ability to unilaterally adjust sales tax rates. The harmonized GST would make
it harder for future provincial governments to lower or raise sales taxes, which in fact
reduces flexibility.
"In short, a harmonized GST is not something we are contemplating in the B.C. Liberal
platform, but we are committed to improving the tax system."
?
I know, I know........ once a liar, always a liar. But SOME people forget that going into
an election and decide to believe some of the things Gordon Campbell told them. And that
forgetfulness is going to cost them dearly now that the HST is about to be introduced. $3
BILLION worth of reminding each and every year in the future.
Pat Bay
"durablepsyche" <durabl...@home.ca> wrote in message
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>> "chingang" <mopa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> I heard 85% of British Columbians don't want the HST. I don't know
>>> about the other provinces or nationally, but that's pretty blatant to
>>> impose a tax on the people when they have spoken through these polls.
>>> Thats not democracy.
>
> "Pat Bay" <p...@rocklandzbc.com> wrote in message
> news:dLbUm.56908$PH1.42535@edtnps82...
> > The polls are not a vote in a democratic sense. They are just an
> > indicator
>> of for or against at a certain point in time. The people in B.C. had
>> their
>> chance to defeat the BC Liberals in May's election, and they did not.
>
>
> Would that have been the election that Premier Gordon Campbell preceded
> with:
>
> "While some British Columbians have suggested that a harmonized PST and
> GST might be beneficial, others have pointed out that it would extend the
> PST tax base to a broader range of goods and services that are presently
> "The B.C. Liberals are also mindful that a harmonized GST would reduce the
> provincial government's ability to unilaterally adjust sales tax rates.
> The harmonized GST would make it harder for future provincial governments
> to lower or raise sales taxes, which in fact reduces flexibility.
>
> "In short, a harmonized GST is not something we are contemplating in the
> B.C. Liberal platform, but we are committed to improving the tax system."
>
> ?
>
> I know, I know........ once a liar, always a liar. But SOME people forget
> that going into an election and decide to believe some of the things
> Gordon Campbell told them. And that forgetfulness is going to cost them
> dearly now that the HST is about to be introduced. $3 BILLION worth of
> reminding each and every year in the future.
Not bad, so where were you when the last provincial election took place? The
NDP needed alot of help to defeat the Liberals and
obviously didn't get it.
Your right about Campbell, he should have come forward, but didn't. The
timeline for the consideration of the HST was within the provincial
election sphere, but I blame people like yourself (if you didn't help) for
where we are now. If the NDP had gotten the help it needed for the
election, more seats would have been won. Even more so if Carole James
hadn't come out to be so wimpy.
The same thing could be said in 1996 too. The BC Liberals almost made it to
the finish line when it came to becoming government but didn't make it
and placed second. If they had won, BC wouldn't have been stuck with $500 m
of worthless ferries (which we are still paying for because there is
amortized payments on the loans for the project).
The BC Liberals won the lion's share of the popular vote, but the NDP won
the most seats and because of that there was 5 more years of NDP
mismanagment.
But there's an opportunity next spring. Work as a volunteer to help the NDP
win additional seats in the next federal election and take out a few
more Conservative seats. Back East, hold your nose in thinking of Iggy and
work as a volunteer for those Liberal candidates and take out a few
Conservative seats.