Re: For all you lunatics who believe HST to be "revenue neutral"
simplicity
> On Dec 12, 2:19 pm, simplicity <stella_pig...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> > Let me express it in simplest possible way, for the benefit of Joes
> > and Giseles out there.
>
> Finally. A Conservative who opposes Conservative ideals!
>
> Conservatives, above all, support the HST.
>
> Has great hero Harper spoken out against it?
>
> NOOOOOOO!
>
> Will wonders never cease?
>
> It pleases me to see that you detest conservative ideas. My guess is
> that you didn't like Mulroney's GST either.
>
> Welcome to the Liberal fan club. Look forward to a postcard from
> Iggy.
Good heavens!! Danny!! where did you find me opposing the HST? Your
extrapolation goes in a very bad direction.
The whole issue is much more complicated. Let me try to be as clear as
possible. You see, as a conservative I actually support any form of
consumption tax over the income tax or wealth based tax (like our
municipal taxes). You consume more, you pay more. As simple as that.
I do not like income tax which, by design, charges people based on how
successful they are. I hate the municipal tax for the reason above and
for the fact that, by design, it punishes the perseverance and the
compounded success. Because, according to my conservative views,
success should be rewarded, not punished. IS that conservative enough
for you?
Ideals apart, and back to reality, I have a real problem with the
conduct of the Ontario opposition. I did not think it would be
possible but I do do and do not agree with the position of Ontario
opposition - both at the same time. I understand their opposition
because of the pile of liberal lies that accompany the introduction of
HST, just read the subject field if you are still unclear,
notwithstanding the fact that HST was never mentioned during the last
election campaign. It is a TAX GRAB, unprecedented TAX GRAB, and it
does not require too much intelligence to see, the fact I have tried
to illustrate. What I see as a misguided acts on pert of Ontario PC
and NDP is the fact that they do not seem to fight for meaningful
income tax reductions to make HST closer to become "revenue neutral" -
the shift that would actually be in line with my conservative views.
Expose the lie where the lie is. How damn difficult may that be?
I like the basic idea behind HST. I do not like the fact that the HST
implementation will cost me hundreds of dollars every year from now
on. I do not like the fact that it was introduced without public
debate. I do not like it because it is nothing more than another
liberal tax grab.
My conservatism is philosophical, not derived from the name of the
political party that I support. For that reason, it is unlikely that
you will find me in the "Liberal fan club" any time soon.
Chom Noamsky
PSSST... simplicity... that wasn't really Danny Williams.
simplicity
Could not care less... I address him the way he (or maybe she)
identifies himself.
Canuck57
> I do not like income tax which, by design, charges people based on how
> successful they are. I hate the municipal tax for the reason above and
> for the fact that, by design, it punishes the perseverance and the
> compounded success. Because, according to my conservative views,
> success should be rewarded, not punished. IS that conservative enough
> for you?
Why? First off governemtn realises baby boomers are going into
retirement, much of their cash is tax paid, and bank yeilds are so
pathetic their incomes are plumeting. To add insult, Canadians retiring
ahve some $30 billion less taxable gains and resulting income due to the
Harpo/CRA lie. Then the recession virtual guarantees not many will pay
capital gains for some time. Employers are not repalcing all those that
retire as they downsize.
Basically government revenue is going down because of demographics and
an economic debt cause recession.
So, they tax people as they got their money now they want to shift it
towards where they spend it.
Bet expate business for retirees is doing quite well and will continue
to do so.
It is about government GREED.