'North American Perimeter' could be Harper's Waterloo
Callida
Vox Populi: Continental border deal
Last updated Sunday, Feb. 06, 2011
Should Canada and the U.S. collaborate more deeply on surveillance and data-sharing in the
name of a so-called North American perimeter?
a.. Yes
b.. No
10% 5180 votes Yes
90% 47359 votes No
Don
news:ySH3p.72426$ZS4....@newsfe07.iad:
Polls of the readers of the G&M, Tornto Star or others of their ilk aren't
particularly illuminating.
Try Harris Decima:
http://www.harrisdecima.com/news/releases/201102/1053-potential-elements-
perimeter-security-deal-garners-strong-support
Canad...@global.com
> news:ySH3p.72426$ZS4....@newsfe07.iad:
>
>> Globe and Mail -
>>
>> Vox Populi: Continental border deal
>> Last updated Sunday, Feb. 06, 2011
>> Should Canada and the U.S. collaborate more deeply on surveillance and
>> data-sharing in the name of a so-called North American perimeter?
>>
>> a.. Yes
>> b.. No
>> 10% 5180 votes Yes
>>
>> 90% 47359 votes No
>>
"Don" <d...@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:Xns9E87AB6AF5...@69.16.185.250...
> Polls of the readers of the G&M, Tornto Star or others of their ilk aren't
> particularly illuminating.
>
> Try Harris Decima:
I would trust spontaneous, on-line polls over anything contrived by the likes of
'Harris-Decima'. THIS is who 'Harris-
Decima' is - the Fox News North of politcal pranks in polling:
_______________________________
The Canadian Press - OTTAWA
A Tory election strategist and former adviser to both the prime minister and public safety
minister became a lobbyist for Taser International soon after use of its stun guns came under
intense scrutiny. Consultant Ken Boessenkool registered the Arizona-based Taser maker as a
client on Nov. 28, two weeks after the videotaped death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski
unleashed international outrage.
"I'm not authorized to speak on behalf of my client to the media,'' Boessenkool said when
reached Friday. "I'd refer you to the Taser media line.''
No comment from Taser International was immediately available. Boessenkool, of the public
relations firm Hill & Knowlton, (GPR note: a U.S. firm which owns Decima {public opinion
polling}
Research recently named changed to Harris Decima and set to do 'independent' work for Campbell
BC Liberals on climate change-yea everything is great in BC-yea} was a senior adviser in
opposition to now Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
He played key strategic roles in the 2004 and 2006 Conservative election campaigns, and was a
policy adviser to Stockwell Day -- now public safety minister -- when Day was treasurer of
Alberta.
M.I. Wakefield
<Canad...@global.com> wrote in message
news:1NH4p.46$4g3...@newsfe04.iad...
>> "Callida" <Cal...@home.cda> wrote in
>> news:ySH3p.72426$ZS4....@newsfe07.iad:
>>
>>> Globe and Mail -
>>>
>>> Vox Populi: Continental border deal
>>> Last updated Sunday, Feb. 06, 2011
>>> Should Canada and the U.S. collaborate more deeply on surveillance and
>>> data-sharing in the name of a so-called North American perimeter?
>>>
>>> a.. Yes
>>> b.. No
>>> 10% 5180 votes Yes
>>>
>>> 90% 47359 votes No
>>>
>
>
> "Don" <d...@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:Xns9E87AB6AF5...@69.16.185.250...
>> Polls of the readers of the G&M, Tornto Star or others of their ilk
>> aren't
>> particularly illuminating.
>>
>> Try Harris Decima:
>
>
> I would trust spontaneous, on-line polls over anything contrived by the
> likes of 'Harris-Decima'.
Then you're as dumb as a fucking post. A voluntary on-line poll can't be
relied upon for anything except to provide the opinion of the people who
voted in it ... it can never be extrapolated to a larger population.
Don
If you are suggesting bias, you might take note that the story you have
used was written by the Torstar-Globe&Mail owned Canadian Press. The same
folks who commissioned the Harris-Decima poll.
Canad...@global.com
>> _______________________________
>>
>> The Canadian Press - OTTAWA
>>
>> A Tory election strategist and former adviser to both the prime
>> minister and public safety minister became a lobbyist for Taser
>> International soon after use of its stun guns came under intense
>> scrutiny. Consultant Ken Boessenkool registered the Arizona-based
>> Taser maker as a client on Nov. 28, two weeks after the videotaped
>> death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski unleashed international
>> outrage.
>>
>> "I'm not authorized to speak on behalf of my client to the media,''
>> Boessenkool said when reached Friday. "I'd refer you to the Taser
>> media line.''
>>
>> No comment from Taser International was immediately available.
>> Boessenkool, of the public relations firm Hill & Knowlton, (GPR note:
>> a U.S. firm which owns Decima {public opinion polling}
>>
>> Research recently named changed to Harris Decima and set to do
>> 'independent' work for Campbell BC Liberals on climate change-yea
>> everything is great in BC-yea} was a senior adviser in opposition to
>> now Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
>>
>> He played key strategic roles in the 2004 and 2006 Conservative
>> election campaigns, and was a policy adviser to Stockwell Day -- now
>> public safety minister -- when Day was treasurer of Alberta.
"Don" <d...@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:Xns9E881E5CC8...@69.16.185.247...
> If you are suggesting bias, you might take note that the story you have
> used was written by the Torstar-Globe&Mail owned Canadian Press. The same
> folks who commissioned the Harris-Decima poll.
Harris-Decima is a Conservative lackey polling company. They worked for the Cons before they
were elected and they are now owned by an American firm. Use your head. If there's any grey
matter in it.
Don
Sorry, but the fact that Harris-Decima might be owned by Americans and
have worked for the Conservatives just doesn't mean as much to people who
aren't delusional as it does to you. It certainly doesn't lower the
integrity of their product to the same level as your online opinion
surveys and hackneyed conspiracy theories.
Take your meds. Quit being so hostile. Learn something.
Canad...@global.com
"Don" <d...@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:Xns9E89EDEABF...@69.16.185.247...
> Sorry, but the fact that Harris-Decima might be owned by Americans and
> have worked for the Conservatives just doesn't mean as much to people who
> aren't delusional as it does to you. It certainly doesn't lower the
> integrity of their product to the same level as your online opinion
> surveys and hackneyed conspiracy theories.
It makes it a Conservative government lackey polling company, that's what it makes it.
> Take your meds. Quit being so hostile. Learn something.
I've learned that you don't seem to care who 'owns' a particular polling company - and why it
shows skewed results that go against every other poll in the country.
Chom Noamsky
>> <Canad...@global.com> wrote in news:Nf05p.3105$Bv7....@newsfe12.iad:
>>>>> Decima' is - the Fox News North of politcal pranks in polling:
>>>>> _______________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> The Canadian Press - OTTAWA
>>>>>
>>>>> A Tory election strategist and former adviser to both the prime
>>>>> minister and public safety minister became a lobbyist for Taser
>>>>> International soon after use of its stun guns came under intense
>>>>> scrutiny. Consultant Ken Boessenkool registered the Arizona-based
>>>>> Taser maker as a client on Nov. 28, two weeks after the videotaped
>>>>> death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski unleashed international
>>>>> outrage.
>>>>>
>>>>> "I'm not authorized to speak on behalf of my client to the media,''
>>>>> Boessenkool said when reached Friday. "I'd refer you to the Taser
>>>>> media line.''
>>>>>
>>>>> No comment from Taser International was immediately available.
To you a skewed poll is one that doesn't agree with your whacky
opinions. Heck, even the last two federal elections were "skewed
polls", weren't they Karen.
Canad...@global.com
>>>>>> Decima' is - the Fox News North of politcal pranks in polling:
>> it
>> shows skewed results that go against every other poll in the country.
Kim Dobranski aka "Chom Noamsky" <blah...@blahblahblah.com> wrote
> To you a skewed poll is one that doesn't agree with your whacky opinions. Heck, even the
> last two federal elections were "skewed polls", weren't they Karen.
Seems Harper doesn't trust some polling companies either. Hahahahahaha ........
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February 11, 2011 - Globe and Mail Update
New poll shows Tories ahead of Liberals - but Harper's not buying it
Harper's Conservatives caution the results are 'inconsistent with our internal polling'
Stephen Harper's Conservatives are telling their supporters not to believe a new poll showing
them well ahead of the Ignatieff Liberals, cautioning the results are "inconsistent with our
internal polling."
The poll by EKOS Research, released Friday, puts the Tories 12 points ahead of the Liberals -
37.3 per cent compared to 24.8 per cent for the Liberals.
The NDP are at 14.2 per cent, the Bloc is polling at nine per cent and the Green Party is at
10.7 per cent.
This is the biggest lead for the Tories since October, according to EKOS.
But the Conservatives aren't buying it.
In a memo circulated to MPs and supporters Friday evening, Conservative Party strategists
caution not to discuss the poll.
"As always, we do not comment on polling," says the memo.
It notes that this poll is also inconsistent with other "recent published surveys."
"In the past, pollsters, have sometimes reported support for our Party that is unusually high
relative to the prevailing data, only to have the anomaly corrected in a subsequent poll,
giving the artificial impression of negative momentum" according to the memo.
Indeed, this poll has caused a stir - it is showing that the Harper Tories are heading even
closer to majority territory. There will be even more election speculation if other polls
confirm the EKOS finding.
Prime Minister Harper and his team have repeatedly said they do not want an election and will
do nothing to provoke one.
All three opposition parties must vote against the government to bring it down. It is not clear
yet how the opposition parties will vote on the March budget.
The Doctor
For once, Harper's instincts are correct.
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M.I. Wakefield
<Canad...@global.com> wrote in message
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>>>> <Canad...@global.com> wrote in
>>>> news:Nf05p.3105$Bv7....@newsfe12.iad:
>>>>>>> Decima' is - the Fox News North of politcal pranks in polling:
>>> I've learned that you don't seem to care who 'owns' a particular polling
>>> company - and why it
>>> shows skewed results that go against every other poll in the country.
>
> Kim Dobranski aka "Chom Noamsky" <blah...@blahblahblah.com> wrote
>> To you a skewed poll is one that doesn't agree with your whacky opinions.
>> Heck, even the last two federal elections were "skewed polls", weren't
>> they Karen.
>
> Seems Harper doesn't trust some polling companies either. Hahahahahaha
> ........
More a matter of not trusting some polls. If you read through the gory
details of any poll's methodology, you'll find a statement something like
the following:
"The margin of error associated with the total sample is +/-x percentage
points, 19 times out of 20."
That means that 5% of the time, a poll is going to give a result that is
outside of the normal margin of error.
Since this EKOS poll is not consistent with other polling companies results,
it's being viewed as a possible "twentieth poll".
This result does not reflect at all on the quality or professionalism of
EKOS; it's just a normal outlier.