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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 21:05:46 +0800
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Subject: Re: [one-logic] quantifiers
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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Russell Wallace
<russell.wall...@gmail.com>wrote:

Yes.
>
> For all x, p(x)  =3D=3D  p(x) =3D K(true)
> There exists (x), p(x)  =3D=3D  p(x) !=3D K(false)
>

1.
What if I want to write:
      for all x [ p(x) -> q(x) ] ?

2.
The symbols "for all" and "exists" do not seem to be proper combinators
(looking at the above definitions).

They are defined via extra-combinatory-logic rules...

Maybe I can set up the equation:
    =D0XPx =3D=3D ( P(x) =3D K true )
and solve for =D0?

Note:  the left hand side above means:
    "for all x in X, P(x)".

KY

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<div>On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Russell Wallace <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:russell.wall...@gmail.com">russell.wall...@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex;">
Yes.<br>
<br>
For all x, p(x) =A0=3D=3D =A0p(x) =3D K(true)<br>
There exists (x), p(x) =A0=3D=3D =A0p(x) !=3D K(false)<br></blockquote><div=
><br></div><div>1.</div><div>What if I want to write:</div><div>=A0=A0 =A0 =
=A0for all x [ p(x) -&gt; q(x) ] ?</div><div><br></div><div>2.</div><div>Th=
e symbols &quot;for all&quot; and &quot;exists&quot; do not seem to be prop=
er combinators (looking at the above definitions).</div>
<div><br></div><div>They are defined via extra-combinatory-logic rules...</=
div><div><br></div><div>Maybe I can set up the equation:</div><div>=A0=A0 =
=A0=D0XPx =3D=3D ( P(x) =3D K true )</div><div>and solve for =D0?</div><div=
><br></div><div>
Note: =A0the left hand side above means:</div><div>=A0=A0 =A0&quot;for all =
x in X, P(x)&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>KY</div></div>

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