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Subject:   Mutagenic effects.....electric field, not magnetic field
 
To:    Roger Coghill   [  roger@cogreslab.co.uk ]

MA(Cantab,) C Biol MI Biol MA(Environ Mgt)

 
On 8-13-07, you sent the following message and on 1-26-08, an additional comment:
 
From: cogreslab@btconnect.com
To: JCMPelican@aol.com
Sent: 8/13/2007 6:05:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: RE: WHO, EMF, Science and Repacholi
 

Thanks Joanne, 

At the start of your letter you refer to the magnetic component. It is absolutely vital that you grasp the point that the electric component of EMFs is the bioactive agent, not the magnetic component. Research focus only on the magnetic component is the disgraceful deception practised by the power utilities  for decades, so that the true impact of exposure has been hugely understated. You will have heard of the electric chair, but never the magnetic chair!

 That is why EPRI’s EMDEX meters never capture the electric field. They were deliberately designed to avoid epidemiological research into electric field effects, yet Ross Adey’s work on calcium efflux, Bary Wilson’s work on melatonin, and Dan Lyle’s work on lymphocyte competence, to name but a few, as well as the early Russian studies, were all reporting electric field effects, not magnetic. Our vital processes (heart beat rate, brain rhythms etc), are all electric processes, not magnetic, and through superposition (an established physical phenomenon) any other electric field will perturb them.

Please stop using the term magnetic when the culprit is electric. This EPRI deception must be halted if we are to make any progress in research evidence.

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In a message dated 1/26/2008 3:09:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, roger@cogreslab.co.uk writes:

Perhaps I also needed to make the point that, yes of course a magnetic field induces an electric field, but the electric component is there all the time the appliance is connected, whereas the magnetic field is only present when the appliance is under load. Moreover there is no fixed correlation between the two at ELF frequencies, so magnetic field measurements say nothing about electric field effects.

 

Roger Coghill

 

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The study copied below re "safety of magnetic field" supports your opinions above.   The implication that mutagenic effects appear when both strong magnetic fields and electric fields are present, does not, dispute what you advised re the need to refer to the electric field as "bio-active agent." 
 
I would appreciate receiving any additional comments as they pertain to the study below.    Since your explanations re importance of emphasizing the electric field as the bio-active agent,  I do conduct "investigations" (much like "Ghostbusters") by using a gaussmeter, but always "focus" on writing that "electric field exposures" are causing harm.  
 
When interacting during home evaluations or discussing gaussmeter measurements, I believe it is essential to warn persons that they can not rely upon magnetic field measurements.   We do know a measurement of 200.0 mg on an electic clock (on nightstand) drops off to a level of around 2.0 mg "over pillow."   Those findings are consistent with electric fields being the bio-active agent.  The  need to measure the electric fields becomes obvious when many persons report dramatic improvement in a relatively short time once appliances are moved away from close proximity to beds .   
 
As you recommend, scientific studies must report  "electric fields" so that progress can be made in all areas of electromagnetic radiation research.
 
Thanks for your efforts -- "Happy New Year!"     Joanne
 
Joanne C. Mueller
Guinea Pigs "R" Us
731 - 123rd Avenue N.W.
Minneapolis, Minnesota  55448-2127 USA
Phone:   763-755-6114
Email:    jcmpelican@aol.com
 
 
ARE YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN GUINEA PIGS?    Letter 7-22-04 by Joanne Mueller
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/282050/
 
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Clinical Neurophysiology
Volume 114, Issue 3, March 2003, Pages 581-588
 
doi:10.1016/S1388-2457(02)00406-6    
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Copyright © 2002 Elsevier Science Ireland Ltd. All rights reserved.

Safety of the magnetic field generated by a neuronal magnetic stimulator: evaluation of possible mutagenic effects

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R. Charlet de Sauvagea, F. Grattepancheb, P. Cassandb, R. Caubetb and J. M. MoreauCorresponding Author Contact Information, E-mail The Corresponding Author, a

a Laboratoire PIOM (ENSCPB), Université Bordeaux 1, 16, Avenue Pey Berland, 33607, Pessac Cedex, France

b ISTAB, Université Bordeaux 1, 33405, Talence Cedex, France


Accepted 22 November 2002. 
Available online 16 January 2003.
 
 
Abstract

Objective: The possible mutagenicity of a magnetic stimulus was checked using the Ames test with Salmonella typhimurium TA98 and TA100 as tester strains.

Methods: Samples of these bacteria were exposed to a pulsed magnetic field, on the order of 1 T. The magnetic pulses were generated by a neuronal magnetic stimulator with a flat coil. The magnetic stimulus was a continuous sequence of slightly damped half sinusoids at a rate of 5 pulses/s. Exposure times were 2–5 and 15 min. Exposure position was such as to maximise the magnetic field and minimise the induced electric field. Room temperature was maintained at 28.5±0.5°C and the temperature was measured inside the samples.

Results: None of the exposure conditions showed any increase in mutation in either of the two bacterial strains.

Conclusions: These results are discussed in comparison with effects found in the literature. The magnetic stimulation used under the conditions of this study does not appear to have mutagenic effects. This does not apply to cases where both strong electric and magnetic fields are present.

Author Keywords: Magnetic stimulation; Safety; Ames test; Mutagenicity; Temperature effects

 
[ Emphasis added by jcm 1-06-09 ]
 
 
 

Clinical Neurophysiology
Volume 114, Issue 3, March 2003, Pages 581-588




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