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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:53:20 -0600
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: Telepresence project
From: Ryan Stille <r...@stillnet.org>
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I would come record more presentations, if I knew they were happening. When
I see a meeting date approaching on the calendar, I check this list for an
announcement of a presentation topic but usually don't see anything. So I
assumed there were no "real" presentations happening that night, I figured
it was just an informal get together. Am I wrong?

-Ryan

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Kevin Fusselman <ke...@fusselman.org> wrote:

> Yea, we could get better about streaming/recording those...  Background
> noise is a huge [but not insurmountable] challenge, both mechanical and
> personal.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:12 AM, tavshed <tavs...@tavshed.com> wrote:
>
>> My interest is being able to watch presentations.
>>
>> - Mike
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Travis Smith <travi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Solution!  I believe Skype does teleconferencing.  Everyone could get on
>> the party line that is the robot, and one person could pilot.  The bot
>> would be a bit schizophrenic, but hey, whatever, it fits.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Brandon Norris <blnor...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I think it may go something like this
>>>
>>> http://youtu.be/2efhrCxI4J0?t=2m15s
>>>
>>> only replace the tv station with robot.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:35 AM, patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah making a fleet of them is both impractical and there isn't any
>>>> space available for that. Jason I could see wanting to use it isn't he
>>>> still in Boston?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:32:28 AM UTC-6, Travis Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Erm...I can see where this might be going.  Robot doesn't exist yet.
>>>>> Patrick and I really want it because there is no way possible we'll be able
>>>>> to attend the meetings, and there are no makerspaces where he lives or
>>>>> where I'm going.  That's our motivation: extreme lack.  He lives in
>>>>> Mississippi, for example.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can see how lots of other people would have valid reasons for having
>>>>> one of these things, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:25 AM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry I think I came off kinda rude there. Mike im not sure if I
>>>>>> remember you but I think we will be limiting the use of this system to
>>>>>> regular attending/paying members. Paying members with out attending may be
>>>>>> allowed that depends on those building it and usage stats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:22:49 AM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps the use of this should be limited to paying members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:34:16 AM UTC-6, tavshed wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not able to make it to the Makery nearly as much as I'd like
>>>>>>>> and am very interested in this taking off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a 17" vesa monitor (circa 2003 so it isn't HD), raspberry pi
>>>>>>>> with wifi adapter, 720p usb camera, and working roomba available for the
>>>>>>>> project. Let me know if any of the components can be put to use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2012, at 11:29 PM, David Knaack <david...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought about a Pi. I see it as having certain features: low
>>>>>>>> power, small, cheap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this case, we will have lots of battery relative to the usage
>>>>>>>> time, so low power isn't a driving factor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Small also isn't a driver, considering that we're looking at
>>>>>>>> something on the order of a 17" screen up top and something that can carry
>>>>>>>> a load of SLA's and motors on the bottom. (Size might be more of a factor
>>>>>>>> if we wanted to source a much smaller display, something around 7" or so,
>>>>>>>> but I have a feeling that doing that potentially creates some constraints
>>>>>>>> without providing very much benefit.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheap is good, but I wouldn't be surprised if we can acquire one or
>>>>>>>> more laptops with more processing and storage than a Pi for equal or lower
>>>>>>>> cost.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So while it's a cool platform, I'm not seeing how it is a
>>>>>>>> competitor to a laptop in this particular application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:09 PM, David J. Gotrik <dgo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Instead of a laptop; couldn't we just have everything running off
>>>>>>>>> a raspberry pi?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype on RPi:
>>>>>>>>> http://elinux.org/RPi_Using_**Sk**ypekit<http://elinux.org/RPi_Using_Skypekit>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v**=nqH54GyRdys<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqH54GyRdys>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wifi(sold out currently, but could look elsewhere)
>>>>>>>>> http://www.buyraspberrypi.com.****au/raspberry-pi-802-11bgn-usb-**
>>>>>>>>> **wireless-dongle/<http://www.buyraspberrypi.com.au/raspberry-pi-802-11bgn-usb-wireless-dongle/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would have to look into LCD situation, but I don't think it'd be
>>>>>>>>> too difficult.  I was thinking we could also maybe interface it with the
>>>>>>>>> chipKit board and IO shield for movement/sensor control since we have quite
>>>>>>>>> a few of those laying around ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Travis Smith <trav...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://youtu.be/ycDXejvsYJk
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Travis Smith <trav...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lulz
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Brandon Norris <
>>>>>>>>>>> blno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anywhere you want!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://instantrimshot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Kevin Fusselman <
>>>>>>>>>>>> ke...@fusselman.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Star wars was usually the opposite of practical... Seriously,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where do you park a super star destroyer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Nov 6, 2012 7:20 PM, "Travis Smith" <trav...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True, the best you got with that was the door guard at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jabba's Palace.  That guy was an ass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:16 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Star wars never thought it of it as being very practical.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 7:01:11 PM UTC-6, Travis Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about a telescoping, articulating tentacle that mounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a wall or the ceiling?  Aliens love that tech (Abyss, War of the Worlds)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Travis Smith <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we're on the right track, but I'd like to second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the idea that this thing be attainable/upgradable from a base model.  I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer shitty but robust to awesome and always almost ready.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Travis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2012, at 12:51, Kevin Fusselman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ke...@fusselman.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, sorta like one of those gigapixel cameras in reverse...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:50 PM, David Knaack <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> david...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking that the high def wide angle feed would go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through a stream filter to crop out the desired section of the image (and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe transform it to remove the wide angle distortion), providing a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software based pan/tilt feature while keeping hardware and bandwidth down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Nov 6, 2012 12:40 PM, "Kevin Fusselman" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ke...@fusselman.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Nah, 1080p is fine; we'll compensate for the bandwidth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in framerate... how does 0.2fps sound?  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, patrick <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin is worried about bandwidth for high def.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 9:17:24 AM UTC-6, David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Knaack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the camera itself is high def we might be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get away with using a wide angle view to avoid building a control system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the camera.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2012 8:57 AM, "patrick" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel it needs the same capability that the MMM has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tilt up and down. the panning of course would be done by the robot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 5, 2012 7:41:26 PM UTC-6, Travis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OMGers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, I'm moving to Japan, its happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Completely due to self interest, I'm suddenly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smitten with the idea of making a telepresence robot.  The basic plan would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be to make one on the cheap using skype, a cheap laptop, a roomba, and some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanism for changing the height of the laptop.  Usage would probably need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be limited to our members in absentsia, as I would want to enjoy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent problem free use of the device, and random people on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet lack stewardship.  For this right I'm willing to front the cash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point?  While I won't be around, I wanna be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around.  OMG and hanging out with you guys is pretty much my favorite part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about Omaha.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick votes yes as well (just a guess).  Anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to get in on this project?  Deadline is February for a working model.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can go easy and work with models already out there, or get creative and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make our own monstrosity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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I would come record more presentations, if I knew they were happening. When=
 I see a meeting date=A0approaching=A0on the calendar, I check this list fo=
r an announcement of a presentation topic but usually don&#39;t see anythin=
g. So I assumed there were no &quot;real&quot; presentations happening that=
 night, I figured it was just an informal get together. Am I wrong?<div>
<br></div><div>-Ryan<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 =
at 9:14 AM, Kevin Fusselman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@f=
usselman.org" target=3D"_blank">ke...@fusselman.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Yea, we could get better about streaming/recording those... =A0Background n=
oise is a huge [but not insurmountable] challenge, both mechanical and pers=
onal.=A0<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:12 AM, tavshed <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tavs...@tavshed.com" target=3D"_blank">tavs=
h...@tavshed.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>My interest is being =
able to watch presentations.<br><div><br></div><div>- Mike</div></div><div>
<div><br>On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Travis Smith &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tra=
vi...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">travi...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></div></div><div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Solution!=A0 I believ=
e Skype does teleconferencing.=A0 Everyone could get on the party line that=
 is the robot, and one person could pilot.=A0 The bot would be a bit schizo=
phrenic, but hey, whatever, it fits.<br>

<br clear=3D"all">Travis<br>

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Brandon =
Norris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blnor...@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">blnor...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">


I think it may go something like this<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://=
youtu.be/2efhrCxI4J0?t=3D2m15s" target=3D"_blank">http://youtu.be/2efhrCxI4=
J0?t=3D2m15s</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>only replace the tv station w=
ith robot.</div>


<div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:35 AM, pat=
rick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:patrickpecor...@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">patrickpecor...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div>
<div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Yeah making a fleet of them is both impractical and there isn&#39;t any spa=
ce available for that. Jason I could see wanting to use it isn&#39;t he sti=
ll in Boston?<div><br><br>On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:32:28 AM UTC-6, =
Travis Smith wrote:</div>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Erm...I can see where this mig=
ht be going.=A0 Robot doesn&#39;t exist yet.=A0 Patrick and I really want i=
t because there is no way possible we&#39;ll be able to attend the meetings=
, and there are no makerspaces where he lives or where I&#39;m going.=A0 Th=
at&#39;s our motivation: extreme lack.=A0 He lives in Mississippi, for exam=
ple.<br>




<br>I can see how lots of other people would have valid reasons for having =
one of these things, though.<br><br clear=3D"all">Travis<br>
<br><br></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8=
:25 AM, patrick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>patrick...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">




Sorry I think I came off kinda rude there. Mike im not sure if I remember y=
ou but I think we will be limiting the use of this system to regular attend=
ing/paying members. Paying members with out attending may be allowed that d=
epends on those building it and usage stats.<div>




<div><br><br>On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:22:49 AM UTC-6, patrick wrote=
:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Perhaps the use of this should be =
limited to paying members.<br>




<br>On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:34:16 AM UTC-6, tavshed wrote:<blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>I&#39;m not able to =
make it to the Makery nearly as much as I&#39;d like and am very interested=
 in this taking off.</div>




<div><br></div><div>I have a 17&quot; vesa monitor (circa 2003 so it isn&#3=
9;t HD), raspberry pi with wifi adapter, 720p usb camera, and working roomb=
a available for the project. Let me know if any of the components can be pu=
t to use.<br>




<div><br></div><div>- Mike</div></div><div><br>On Nov 6, 2012, at 11:29 PM,=
 David Knaack &lt;<a>david...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div><div>I thought about a Pi.=A0I see it as having cer=
tain features: low power, small, cheap.=A0<br>




</div><div><br></div><div>In this case, we will have lots of battery relati=
ve to the usage time, so low power isn&#39;t a driving factor.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Small also isn&#39;t a driver, considering that we&#39;=
re looking at something on the order of a 17&quot; screen up top and someth=
ing that can carry a load of SLA&#39;s and motors on the bottom. (Size migh=
t be more of a factor if we wanted to source a much smaller display, someth=
ing around 7&quot; or so, but I have a feeling that doing that potentially =
creates some constraints without providing very much benefit.)</div>





<div><br></div><div>Cheap is good, but I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if we ca=
n acquire one or more laptops with more processing and storage than a Pi fo=
r equal or lower cost.</div><div><br></div><div>
So while it&#39;s a cool platform, I&#39;m not seeing how it is a competito=
r to a laptop in this particular application.</div><div><br></div><div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:09 PM, David J. Gotrik=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>dgo...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">Instead of a laptop; couldn&#39;t we just have everything =
running off a raspberry pi?<div>





<br></div><div>Skype on RPi:</div><div><a href=3D"http://elinux.org/RPi_Usi=
ng_Skypekit" target=3D"_blank">http://elinux.org/RPi_Using_<u></u>Sk<u></u>=
ypekit</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnqH54GyRdys" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?<u></u>v<u></u>=3DnqH54GyRdys</a></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Wifi(sold out currently, but could look elsewhere)</div><=
div>



<a href=3D"http://www.buyraspberrypi.com.au/raspberry-pi-802-11bgn-usb-wire=
less-dongle/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.buyraspberrypi.com.<u></u><u></u=
>au/raspberry-pi-802-11bgn-usb-<u></u><u></u>wireless-dongle/</a></div>


<div><br></div><div>Would have to look into LCD situation, but I don&#39;t =
think it&#39;d be too difficult. =A0I was thinking we could also maybe inte=
rface it with the chipKit board and IO shield for movement/sensor control s=
ince we have quite a few of those laying around ;)</div>





<div><div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 6=
, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Travis Smith <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>trav...@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><a href=3D"http://youtu.be/ycDXejvsYJk" target=3D"_blank">=
http://youtu.be/ycDXejvsYJk</a><span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>






<br clear=3D"all">Travis</font></span><div><div><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Travis S=
mith <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>trav...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex">







Lulz<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=3D"all">Travis</font></span=
><div><div><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Brandon =
Norris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>blno...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">








Anywhere you want!<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://instantrimshot.com/=
" target=3D"_blank">http://instantrimshot.com/</a></div><div><div><div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Kevin Fusselman =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>ke...@fusselman.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>









<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><p>Star wars was usually the opposite of practical... Seri=
ously, where do you park a super star destroyer? </p>





<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 6, 2012 7:20 PM, &quot;Travis Smith&quot;=
 &lt;<a>trav...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width=
:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">










True, the best you got with that was the door guard at Jabba&#39;s Palace.=
=A0 That guy was an ass.<br><br clear=3D"all">Travis<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:16 PM, patrick =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>patrick...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;paddi=
ng-left:1ex">











Star wars never thought it of it as being very practical.<div><br><br>On Tu=
esday, November 6, 2012 7:01:11 PM UTC-6, Travis Smith wrote:</div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-wid=
th:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">











<div>How about a telescoping, articulating tentacle that mounts to a wall o=
r the ceiling?=A0 Aliens love that tech (Abyss, War of the Worlds)<br><br c=
lear=3D"all">Travis<br>
<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:04 P=
M, Travis Smith <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>trav...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-lef=
t-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">












<div dir=3D"auto"><div><div>I think we&#39;re on the right track, but I&#39=
;d like to second the idea that this thing be attainable/upgradable from a =
base model. =A0I&#39;d prefer shitty but robust to awesome and always almos=
t ready.=A0<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>












<br>-Travis</font></span></div></div><div><div><div><div><br>On Nov 6, 2012=
, at 12:51, Kevin Fusselman &lt;<a>ke...@fusselman.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><b=
r></div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><div>So, sorta like one of those gigapixel cameras in reverse...</div>=
<div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:50 P=
M, David Knaack <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>david...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>













</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p>I was thinking that the high def wide angle =
feed would go through a stream filter to crop out the desired section of th=
e image (and maybe transform it to remove the wide angle distortion), provi=
ding a software based pan/tilt feature while keeping hardware and bandwidth=
 down. </p>













</div><div><div>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Nov 6, 2012 12:40 PM, &quot;Kevin Fussel=
man&quot; &lt;<a>ke...@fusselman.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:=
solid;padding-left:1ex">











<div>


Nah, 1080p is fine; we&#39;ll compensate for the bandwidth in framerate... =
how does 0.2fps sound? =A0:)</div><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, patrick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>patri=
ck...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>















<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">Kevin is worried about bandwidth for high def.<div><br><br=
>





On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 9:17:24 AM UTC-6, David Knaack wrote:</div>









<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div><p>If the camera itself is high def we might be able =
to get away with using a wide angle view to avoid building a control system=
 for the camera. </p>
















</div><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 6, 2012 8:57 AM, &quot;patrick=
&quot; &lt;<a>patrick...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">
















I feel it needs the same capability that the MMM has to tilt up and down. t=
he panning of course would be done by the robot.<br><br>On Monday, November=
 5, 2012 7:41:26 PM UTC-6, Travis Smith wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-co=
lor:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
















OMGers,<br><br>Hey, I&#39;m moving to Japan, its happening.=A0 <br><br>Comp=
letely due to self interest, I&#39;m suddenly smitten with the idea of maki=
ng a telepresence robot.=A0 The basic plan would be to make one on the chea=
p using skype, a cheap laptop, a roomba, and some mechanism for changing th=
e height of the laptop.=A0 Usage would probably need to be limited to our m=
embers in absentsia, as I would want to enjoy consistent problem free use o=
f the device, and random people on the internet lack stewardship.=A0 For th=
is right I&#39;m willing to front the cash.<br>

















<br>The point?=A0 While I won&#39;t be around, I wanna be around.=A0 OMG an=
d hanging out with you guys is pretty much my favorite part about Omaha.<br=
><br>Patrick votes yes as well (just a guess).=A0 Anyone want to get in on =
this project?=A0 Deadline is February for a working model.=A0 We can go eas=
y and work with models already out there, or get creative and make our own =
monstrosity.<br>

















<br clear=3D"all">Travis<br>
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