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tavshed  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 4:00 pm
From: tavshed <tavs...@tavshed.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:00:36 -0500
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 4:00 pm
Subject: RAID enclosure recommendations?

I have many 500GB and 1TB hard drives and would like to put them in RAID enclosures and attach to a Mac Mini (USB, Firewire, or Thunderbolt). Any recommendations?

- Mike


 
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 8:50 pm
From: patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:50:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 8:50 pm
Subject: Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

I've been pondering doing the same what is your budget? Is is for live
data, backup or media server?


 
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 9:05 pm
From: tavshed <tavs...@tavshed.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:05:34 -0500
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

I was think of doing two. One with live data and another for backups.

I picked up a SansDigital 4 drive raid enclosure (~175 on Amazon), but it has already failed. I'd like a thunderbolt enclosure since they will be attached to a Mac mini, but I can't find any that don't already have drives.

I'm not in short suplly of drives. I have 12 1TB drives and 4 500GB 3.5" drives. Plus several 2.5 500GB drives.

- Mike

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 More options Oct 5 2012, 9:13 pm
From: patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:13:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

Whats your budget? There are very few mother boards out right now that
support thunderbolt but would be ideal for a RAID 0 for live data and you
could get a less powerful board for the backup system of which I would
recommend freeNAS. Thunderbolt boards are upward of $200 sans CPU RAM and
case.


 
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From: Marc M <marcmdm2...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:04:04 -0500
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?
Man I wish I had a few of those 12 1TB drives

Back on topic

I would also recommend a second machine with FreeNAS


 
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 10:06 pm
From: tavshed <tavs...@tavshed.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:06:57 -0500
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?
My goal was to reduce the number of computers, but FreeNAS does look good.

- Mike

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 More options Oct 5 2012, 10:11 pm
From: Kevin Fusselman <ke...@fusselman.org>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:11:15 -0500
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

I'm using FreeNAS in a VM environment and have had some trouble getting
ACLs working correctly. That said, it's nothing I couldn't fix with the
console.


 
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 10:55 pm
From: patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:55:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 10:55 pm
Subject: Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

Be warned RAIDZ2 requires one gig of RAM for every TB of HDD space. I'm not
how every sure on the processor requirements. There are 3 thunderbolt
boards
available http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627...


 
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From: patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:00:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 11:00 pm
Subject: Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

IF you have time check out this RAID mod video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BatakM9iAik also check out his other mod
videos they are pretty fun to watch. http://willudesign.com/ModsTop.html


 
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From: James Harr <james.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:39:03 -0500
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

Also, FreeBSD's [and FreeNAS's] NFS server is pretty crash happy. Kevin --
any comments on this?

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From: James Harr <james.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:59:01 -0500
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

If you are [or anyone else is] looking for a hot-swap cage, I have one of
these I've been looking to sell off.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817995001R

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 More options Oct 6 2012, 4:03 pm
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:03:36 -0500
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

I'm looking for something that just works.

- Mike

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 More options Oct 6 2012, 7:00 pm
From: The_IndustrialPhreak <mdkle...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:00:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 6 2012 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

What file system are you planning on?

NTFS, HFS+, EXT~x, or drum roll ZFS.

What hardware and bus drives do you have to bring to the table?

Do you want something set and forget or something you need to attend
regular OLUG meetings to maintain?


 
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 More options Oct 6 2012, 7:24 pm
From: tavshed <tavs...@tavshed.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:24:01 -0500
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

Plan is to connect to Max Mini running OS X Server and share it for other Macs to access.

USB 2.0, FireWire 800, Thunderbolt

I'd like to plug it in and leave it. All our pics, videos, stuff we never want to have disappear will be on it. I will have it backed off to an offsite NAS.

- Mike

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 More options Oct 6 2012, 7:43 pm
From: tavshed <tavs...@tavshed.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:43:47 -0500
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

Should be Mac not Max

- Mike

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 More options Oct 7 2012, 11:17 am
From: patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:17:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

I've got just the build for you. Since you will only be sharing to other
Macs Down load the ZEVO community
edition http://zevo.getgreenbytes.com/forum.php Install that on the Mac
Mini Max out the RAM to
16GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239389 Get
the thunderbolt to eSATA
adapter http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?id=10574

Then get an eSATA equipped drive enclosure this one has 8 bays isn't too
expensive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817576012

Then just set up a RAIDZ2 on it and plug the Mac Mini via gigabit to your
router and share it with the rest of the machines.

May still be cheaper to build a custom machine. ZEVO is limited to 16TB
based on the limited RAM you can put on most Macs and it doesn't have
de-duplication like freeNAS. Though I think it is the best to go with your
Mac Mini controller.


 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 11:27 am
From: patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:27:50 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

Thunderbolt to USB 3.0 would be faster but I can't find that adapter as of
yet.


 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 11:30 am
From: patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:30:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

You could also get a couple of cheap 5 bays and mirror those together for
redundancy or to segregate different data types.


 
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 More options Dec 2 2012, 12:18 am
From: tavshed <mtimm.icg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 21:18:30 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

Ended up using a four bay RAID USB 3.0 enclosure that attaches to the Mac Mini for local files.

I then loaded up drives in a couple year old computer box and installed Debian. Ran rsync over ssh locally and then dropped the computer off at my parents.

WiFi connection at their house, but the bottleneck is their cable modem bandwidth.

In the end I have plenty of local redundant space and an off-site backup.

Thanks for all the suggestions.


 
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 More options Dec 3 2012, 12:15 am
From: patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 21:15:34 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

Didn't go for ZEVO?


 
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 More options Dec 3 2012, 7:09 am
From: tavshed <tavs...@tavshed.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 06:09:06 -0600
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Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: RAID enclosure recommendations?

No, I decided to stick with what I know. Several of the ideas were compelling, but finding the time to fully explore was not available. I'll review them again if I find the time.

- Mike

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