So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it pops off.
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused on
> I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other
> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
> pops off.
> Put the hooks in behind the hole at the middle of the wheel, and push on > the hub/axle with the bolt...
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused >> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other >> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real >> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it >> pops off.
Obviously, it's not the disk part that you need to spray (Rear disks, I
assume?), but rather the middle part. It might be more accessible from the
back side of the wheel... The Blaster comes with a long straw for just this
purpose.
If it's drum rear, spray away. The outside doesn't contact anything
anyhow...
>> Put the hooks in behind the hole at the middle of the wheel, and push on
>> the hub/axle with the bolt...
>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused
>>> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other
>>> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
>>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
>>> pops off.
On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:19:38 PM UTC-5, Kevin Fusselman wrote:
> Obviously, it's not the disk part that you need to spray (Rear disks, I > assume?), but rather the middle part. It might be more accessible from the > back side of the wheel... The Blaster comes with a long straw for just this > purpose.
> If it's drum rear, spray away. The outside doesn't contact anything > anyhow...
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> I'm hesitant to use a lubricant on the out side of a brake..
>> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Kevin Fusselman wrote:
>>> Don't drive on loose nuts; You'll lose the wheel, wreck, and probably >>> bend the hell out of the hub and whatnot.
>>> Put the hooks in behind the hole at the middle of the wheel, and push on >>> the hub/axle with the bolt...
>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused >>>> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other >>>> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real >>>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it >>>> pops off.
On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:23:53 PM UTC-5, patrick wrote:
> Its rear drum but the the out side of them looks so rusted im wondering if > they are going to crumble trying this. If its not one thing its another...
> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:19:38 PM UTC-5, Kevin Fusselman wrote:
>> Obviously, it's not the disk part that you need to spray (Rear disks, I >> assume?), but rather the middle part. It might be more accessible from the >> back side of the wheel... The Blaster comes with a long straw for just this >> purpose.
>> If it's drum rear, spray away. The outside doesn't contact anything >> anyhow...
>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm hesitant to use a lubricant on the out side of a brake..
>>> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Kevin Fusselman wrote:
>>>> Don't drive on loose nuts; You'll lose the wheel, wreck, and probably >>>> bend the hell out of the hub and whatnot.
>>>> Put the hooks in behind the hole at the middle of the wheel, and push >>>> on the hub/axle with the bolt...
>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is >>>>> fused on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the >>>>> other wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real >>>>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it >>>>> pops off.
did you try loosen the zerk and let some brake fluid out so you can compress the slave cylinder that way the brake pads push in and it frees the brake drum. and if its wheel that stuck on the brake drum you take a sledge hammer and hit it once on each side on the tire until it pops loose that's what i had to do on mine.
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From: patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com>
To: omaha-maker-group@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: [OMG] Fused wheel
So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it pops off.
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused on
> I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other
> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
> pops off.
Hammer on the inside of the actual wheel. (Not the tire) but be careful
about bending the wheel. Some wheels (very few, but check anyway) have
jacking bolt holes between the lug holes. Sometimes a large pry bar between
the drum and the wheel will work it loose. PB blaster, liquid wrench,
kroil, etc are great thing to try for some help. You can spray some
brakleen or equivalent on the brake parts to clean the oil off after you
get it apart...
On Oct 27, 2012 1:04 PM, "patrick" <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused on
> I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other
> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
> pops off.
On Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:29:40 PM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
> Are we talking about removing the tire and rim, or the drum?
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused >> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other >> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real >> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it >> pops off.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:28 AM, patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tire and rim from the drum.
> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:29:40 PM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
>> Are we talking about removing the tire and rim, or the drum?
>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused
>>> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other
>>> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
>>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
>>> pops off.
On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:42:49 AM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
> Sometimes it helps to heat the rim with a torch.
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:28 AM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> Tire and rim from the drum.
>> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:29:40 PM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
>>> Are we talking about removing the tire and rim, or the drum?
>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused >>>> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other >>>> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real >>>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it >>>> pops off.
I had exactly this problem this afternoon. I solved it with PB and a 3lb
mallet. Squirt the PB into the lug holes and rotate the tire to get it all
distributed, then go have lunch. Come back with a mallet and a pad, smack
the outer edge of the rim with the mallet, cushioning the blow with the pad
to prevent damage to the rim. Half a dozen good smacks and it pops off.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:07 AM, patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like that idea fire solves everything. Off to buy a torch.
> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:42:49 AM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
>> Sometimes it helps to heat the rim with a torch.
>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:28 AM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Tire and rim from the drum.
>>> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:29:40 PM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
>>>> Are we talking about removing the tire and rim, or the drum?
>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is
>>>>> fused on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the
>>>>> other wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
>>>>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
>>>>> pops off.
Unfortunately I wont be able to begin/finish this till my next check a couple weeks from now. Bought too many tools and don't have any left over for the alignment when I get done.
On Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:51:47 PM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
> I had exactly this problem this afternoon. I solved it with PB and a 3lb > mallet. Squirt the PB into the lug holes and rotate the tire to get it all > distributed, then go have lunch. Come back with a mallet and a pad, smack > the outer edge of the rim with the mallet, cushioning the blow with the pad > to prevent damage to the rim. Half a dozen good smacks and it pops off.
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:07 AM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> I like that idea fire solves everything. Off to buy a torch.
>> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:42:49 AM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
>>> Sometimes it helps to heat the rim with a torch.
>>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:28 AM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Tire and rim from the drum.
>>>> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:29:40 PM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
>>>>> Are we talking about removing the tire and rim, or the drum?
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is >>>>>> fused on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the >>>>>> other wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real >>>>>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it >>>>>> pops off.
If you are replacing all 4 struts I wouldn't worry too much about the
alignment being off unless you replaced only one strut at some point and
had it realigned after that...
On Oct 28, 2012 4:24 PM, "patrick" <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately I wont be able to begin/finish this till my next check a
> couple weeks from now. Bought too many tools and don't have any left over
> for the alignment when I get done.
> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:51:47 PM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
>> I had exactly this problem this afternoon. I solved it with PB and a 3lb
>> mallet. Squirt the PB into the lug holes and rotate the tire to get it all
>> distributed, then go have lunch. Come back with a mallet and a pad, smack
>> the outer edge of the rim with the mallet, cushioning the blow with the pad
>> to prevent damage to the rim. Half a dozen good smacks and it pops off.
>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:07 AM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I like that idea fire solves everything. Off to buy a torch.
>>> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:42:49 AM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
>>>> Sometimes it helps to heat the rim with a torch.
>>>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:28 AM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Tire and rim from the drum.
>>>>> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:29:40 PM UTC-5, David Knaack wrote:
>>>>>> Are we talking about removing the tire and rim, or the drum?
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, patrick <patrick...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is
>>>>>>> fused on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the
>>>>>>> other wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
>>>>>>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
>>>>>>> pops off.
My friend is a mechanic for the city. And they just put 2 lugnuts on a
5 mug rim hand tight. And then just drive forwards and back until it
pops. 1 lug if only 4 lug rim.
One case for myself I had to drive around the block twice before it popped.
On Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:05:08 PM UTC-5, Marc M wrote:
> My friend is a mechanic for the city. And they just put 2 lugnuts on a > 5 mug rim hand tight. And then just drive forwards and back until it > pops. 1 lug if only 4 lug rim.
> One case for myself I had to drive around the block twice before it > popped.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM, patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is my only vehicle and so i dont think i will try that particular
> method.
> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:05:08 PM UTC-5, Marc M wrote:
>> My friend is a mechanic for the city. And they just put 2 lugnuts on a
>> 5 mug rim hand tight. And then just drive forwards and back until it
>> pops. 1 lug if only 4 lug rim.
>> One case for myself I had to drive around the block twice before it
>> popped.
Kevins tire puller worked great. Now if I could only get the dang bolts off the strut. What would you recommend as far as impact/numatic or electric wrenches. Im leaning toward A battery powered one but I think air ones are more powerful. A breaker bar might work but not sure if i can get it in that area.
On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:04:37 PM UTC-5, patrick wrote:
> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused on > I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other > wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real > comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it > pops off.
I don't have any experience with non-air-powered impact wrenches, but
that's the type of tool I would buy in corded electric. You won't be
moving it around enough to justify the cost and performance reduction of a
battery, and unless you already own a compressor, air would be a big
expense.
On Nov 4, 2012 9:11 AM, "patrick" <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kevins tire puller worked great. Now if I could only get the dang bolts
> off the strut. What would you recommend as far as impact/numatic or
> electric wrenches. Im leaning toward A battery powered one but I think air
> ones are more powerful. A breaker bar might work but not sure if i can get
> it in that area.
> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:04:37 PM UTC-5, patrick wrote:
>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused
>> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other
>> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
>> pops off.
Seconded. There are several 110v impact guns that are probably at least as
good as a low-end air setup...
On Nov 4, 2012 10:01 AM, "Ben Hutcheson" <hutcheson....@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't have any experience with non-air-powered impact wrenches, but
> that's the type of tool I would buy in corded electric. You won't be
> moving it around enough to justify the cost and performance reduction of a
> battery, and unless you already own a compressor, air would be a big
> expense.
> On Nov 4, 2012 9:11 AM, "patrick" <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kevins tire puller worked great. Now if I could only get the dang bolts
>> off the strut. What would you recommend as far as impact/numatic or
>> electric wrenches. Im leaning toward A battery powered one but I think air
>> ones are more powerful. A breaker bar might work but not sure if i can get
>> it in that area.
>> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:04:37 PM UTC-5, patrick wrote:
>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused
>>> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other
>>> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
>>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
>>> pops off.
For as often as your average hobbyist is going to use an impact
wrench, the 'manual' models are awesome. It's the same mechanism,
except you hit it with a hammer yourself instead of letting the
air/electricity doing the work. They take up significantly less room
and require 0 maintenance.
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Kevin Fusselman <ke...@fusselman.org> wrote:
> Seconded. There are several 110v impact guns that are probably at least as
> good as a low-end air setup...
> On Nov 4, 2012 10:01 AM, "Ben Hutcheson" <hutcheson....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't have any experience with non-air-powered impact wrenches, but
>> that's the type of tool I would buy in corded electric. You won't be moving
>> it around enough to justify the cost and performance reduction of a battery,
>> and unless you already own a compressor, air would be a big expense.
>> On Nov 4, 2012 9:11 AM, "patrick" <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kevins tire puller worked great. Now if I could only get the dang bolts
>>> off the strut. What would you recommend as far as impact/numatic or electric
>>> wrenches. Im leaning toward A battery powered one but I think air ones are
>>> more powerful. A breaker bar might work but not sure if i can get it in that
>>> area.
>>> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:04:37 PM UTC-5, patrick wrote:
>>>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused
>>>> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other
>>>> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real comfortable
>>>> with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it pops off.
You can pick up a nice Kobalt corded electric impact wrench for about $35-$45. I've always been happy with mine.
From: omaha-maker-group@googlegroups.com [mailto:omaha-maker-group@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Fusselman
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:21 AM
To: omaha-maker-group@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [OMG] Re: Fused wheel
Seconded. There are several 110v impact guns that are probably at least as good as a low-end air setup...
On Nov 4, 2012 10:01 AM, "Ben Hutcheson" <hutcheson....@gmail.com<mailto:hutcheson....@gmail.com>> wrote:
I don't have any experience with non-air-powered impact wrenches, but that's the type of tool I would buy in corded electric. You won't be moving it around enough to justify the cost and performance reduction of a battery, and unless you already own a compressor, air would be a big expense.
On Nov 4, 2012 9:11 AM, "patrick" <patrickpecor...@gmail.com<mailto:patrickpecor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Kevins tire puller worked great. Now if I could only get the dang bolts off the strut. What would you recommend as far as impact/numatic or electric wrenches. Im leaning toward A battery powered one but I think air ones are more powerful. A breaker bar might work but not sure if i can get it in that area.
On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:04:37 PM UTC-5, patrick wrote:
So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it pops off.
On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:04:37 PM UTC-5, patrick wrote:
> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused on > I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other > wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real > comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it > pops off.
I'm guessing these still need impact sockets. I know air/electric impact
wrenches need impact sockets or you'll crack the socket after 3 or 4 uses.
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:25 PM, patrick <patrickpecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was thinking battery because I'm working in an apartment parking lot
> about 75ft from my apartment. Jason got an example link?
> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:04:37 PM UTC-5, patrick wrote:
>> So I was trying to replace my struts and one of my rear wheels is fused
>> on I've tried every thing I can think of including large hammer, the other
>> wheel, and a 4"x4"x8' nothing has worked any ideas? I'm not real
>> comfortable with the idea of driving it around with loose lug nuts till it
>> pops off.
