Spammers Making a Bad Image of Okopipi
Cyrus Jones
the IRC channel #okopipi to spam people. Several suggestions have
included
- blocking IP addresses (unfortunately, it is pretty easy to change
your IP address)
- blocking subnet masks/ MAC addresses (likely not possible)
-find where the spammers live (likely not possible)
-report to certain authorities (might be hard and troublesome to
report; spammers likely would listen anyway)
Such operations by spammers might escalate to sabotaging the wiki and
newsgroups. Or even finding ways to obtain email addresses of Okopipi
participants or using wiki to email horrible messages. The unfortunate
possibilities are endless. Please reply if you have any suggestions.
Cyrus Jones
troublesome to
report; spammers likely would NOT listen anyway)"
Unit1911
Nadia18 was kicked/banned by the Zek bot. In other words our curent
defenses worked.
The spam bots in Undernet existed long before our channel was formed,
Undernet currently has many difrent defenses against these bots but a
few do sneak through for a short period from time to time. I still
think our best defense is make sure our members are aware of the
possible retaliations and do our best to fend them off when they ocour,
It's hard to know who a spammer is before he does the action he is here
to do as this is an open forum.
If you are here but don't want to be a possible target of retaliation
the best suggestion I can give you is unsubscribe from the group. The
only full proof option we have to prevent retaliation is to go
completly underground. No forum, no wiki, no IRC, of course the
membership would have to be VERY select... and no offence but most of
us would not make it into the group. Otherwise your best course is to
set up seperate E-mail addresses for the project and learn to live with
a little bit of spam for a short time.
Ehm
Just ignore them, they're not targeted
David Gravereaux
> Please reply if you have any suggestions.
Not a big deal to me.. Just ask a benevolent dictator to ban them.
There are a few types of mask styles one can use on IRC and I'm sure the
OPs in #okopipi understand their use...
But knowing that we are living amongst the enemy, I find to be a great
incentive for coding style.
IOW, let's put our effort into offense, not defense as our source code
hasn't even been started yet.
Spy der Mann
> We should find a way to block people like a certain Nadia18 from using
> the IRC channel #okopipi to spam people. Several suggestions have
> included
* blocking IP ranges would be more effective. Just whois the IP and
calculate the range. Of course you run the risk of banning more people
than necessary...
* Blocking IP ranges from asian countries AND russia should be
mandatory
* Block IP's listed in the socks servers list (
http://www.samair.ru/proxy/socks.htm ), altho the undernet's starting
to ban sock servers already (I found out with a G-line :P )
* Don't forget to include in the topic "WARNING. Spammers crossing.
Drive with care."
Tortanick
Journeyman
a bot that scans for spambots and bans them on site. also lear how
tcp/ip works, you can't ban by the MAC addresse as this does not go
behond the local network. also I work with IRCops from time to time to
gline large botnets. if you have problems with spammers in the channel
report it to an operator (someone with an @ infront of their name). we
can't go behond our channel, if the user isnt in there there is nothing
we can do, contact someone on the undernet staff or an IRCop. set
yourself with +i (/umode +i or /mode NICKNAME +i)
Spy der Mann
discriminatory. SPECIALLY because those countries don't have antispam
laws. They might as well modify okopipi and form their own asian
antispam network.
Unit1911
Stick to one subject here, this is a disscussion of the IRC channel not
the frognet.
And just because a country dosen't have anti-spam laws dosent mean the
people of that country WANT spam and wouldn't contribute to our cause.
hedwards
entire countries. There are already projects and organizations that
blacklist. Forwarding noncompliant sites or spams in general is
prudent, but if the people want blacklisting these groups already have
products to do so.
IMHO, the furthest we should go in this area is greylisting domains
which do not have an spf or domainkeys record published.
Leave this to the groups that already do so, perhaps provide a plugin
if there is really such a need. Personally, if I were interested in
using blacklists, I could already do so; okopipi is way too much work
if I am just going to blacklist the entire world anyway.
Spy der Mann
Spy der Mann
Alcator
Drive with care."
Do you mean "Warning: Spammers ahead. toggle on your wipers" ? :-)
Caspian
because we're targeting spammers.
I've seen spammers interrupt other IRC channels before, too. Spammers
might "collect" IRC channels the same way they collect email addresses.
So, we can just "hide" the channel name the same way you hide email
addresses (irc DOT undernet DOT org).
Or, we can post this text:
irc.und
ernet.o
rg, chan
nel name
 "okopip
i"
(without the carriage returns)
Which is HTML special characters for: irc.undernet.org, channel name
"okopipi"
Cyrus Jones
work. But it may be hard because so many links all around the internet
have our IRC channel posted. It would be impossible to get rid of all
of them.