We all obviously appreciate the work that's being done on this project. However, at this point, I think this project's at a point where people are giving up and turning their attention elsewhere. Why don't you start bringing more people on board? Why don't you release a snapshot of what you have now, even though it may not work? Even if it's only a couple of lines!!! We don't care! We want to see some results! We all understand a working professional's time constraints, but we're at the point now where you should either put out or get out. We will support you every step of the way, regardless of the current state of things. But we need to see action, and we need to see it NOW. A code snapshot. A link to a CVS/SVN repository. More activity on the front page. Something. In a professional atmosphere, if someone isn't doing their job, they get fired. Just because this is a volunteer gig doesn't mean people still can't get the boot. So, if we're all just waiting on someone to get their act together, maybe it's time to find someone else who's competent enough to walk the walk.
Am I volunteering? I don't think so! I have a full-time job and a family, too. I understand the pressure you're under. Which is why you need to either make time for this project or step down as leader and let someone else with the know-how take the reigns. There's no question about it. You did say this project is up for grabs, however you didn't say how to post results, host code, etc. If you're willing to step down as project leader, say so, and the community will find someone who will be able to make this project successful. You already have a good portion of the code written for you, as the Blue Frog client was free software. If you don't have the source for it, ask around. Someone's bound to still have it lying around somewhere. Slashdot works great for this sort of thing.
No malice against you. Again, I'm grateful you took the initiative with starting something. But now that something is stagnant and in danger of dying. As the project leader, you are largely responsible for this, and you need to do what is necessary in order to see to it that this project lives on. Even if that means handing the keys to everything over to someone else.
well if you are not volunteering for the job you shouldn't really be saying anything. also if you ever read the front page, or the forum you might have a clue on what is going on. I (the project leader) have stepped aside and allowed for anyone to come forward. Everything that has been made for the okopipi is posted, try reading the forum.
> We all obviously appreciate the work that's being done on this project. > However, at this point, I think this project's at a point where people > are giving up and turning their attention elsewhere. Why don't you > start bringing more people on board? Why don't you release a snapshot > of what you have now, even though it may not work? Even if it's only a > couple of lines!!! We don't care! We want to see some results! We all > understand a working professional's time constraints, but we're at the > point now where you should either put out or get out. We will support > you every step of the way, regardless of the current state of things. > But we need to see action, and we need to see it NOW. A code snapshot. > A link to a CVS/SVN repository. More activity on the front page. > Something. In a professional atmosphere, if someone isn't doing their > job, they get fired. Just because this is a volunteer gig doesn't mean > people still can't get the boot. So, if we're all just waiting on > someone to get their act together, maybe it's time to find someone else > who's competent enough to walk the walk.
> Am I volunteering? I don't think so! I have a full-time job and a > family, too. I understand the pressure you're under. Which is why you > need to either make time for this project or step down as leader and > let someone else with the know-how take the reigns. There's no question > about it. You did say this project is up for grabs, however you didn't > say how to post results, host code, etc. If you're willing to step down > as project leader, say so, and the community will find someone who will > be able to make this project successful. You already have a good > portion of the code written for you, as the Blue Frog client was free > software. If you don't have the source for it, ask around. Someone's > bound to still have it lying around somewhere. Slashdot works great for > this sort of thing.
> No malice against you. Again, I'm grateful you took the initiative with > starting something. But now that something is stagnant and in danger of > dying. As the project leader, you are largely responsible for this, and > you need to do what is necessary in order to see to it that this > project lives on. Even if that means handing the keys to everything > over to someone else.
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