Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone

[Alyce Arnouts]

My Great, Great Great grandpa grave stone has a G.A.R. Post No. 7 marker and he is listed as a veteran in a veterans book in 1894. but he never received nor want the Civil War Pension, so I don't know how to come up with any other information on this. I would like to see some documented. 

Any help would be most grateful. 

Thanks. 

Alyce

[Jan Myers]

I will be glad to look for any information. Please provide the name of your GGG Grandpa.

 

Jan

 

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[lstevens]

You should post more pertinent information

[lstevens]

Names, where buried, book title, things like that would help.

On Friday, July 6, 2012 6:17:00 PM UTC-4, lstevens wrote:

[Anne Alt]

Hello to all:  My 3x great grandfather is buried in Delaware County, Ohio... by his headstone is also the GAR Marker.. and it has been there for as long as I have been alive (abt 60 years) and was there before that; however, I'm like Istevens5300---my 3x great grandfather did not sign up for a pension nor did he go to the recorders office in Delaware County Ohio and "register"---believe me, hardly any of them did but supposedly knowledgeable people have told me they HAD to... (sorry that is not the case)...

I'm thinking that there may have been more of what I would consider a type of National Guard or jobs associated with the county involving the Civil War that they may well have been involved in.. more on the local level...but not associated with actual fighting or in some type of regiment or company.

I have hit stone wall after stone wall-- have gone to the Sons of the GAR and other organizations for the State of Ohio to enlist their help--only to find that their website is about 15 years old and hardly ANY of the phone numbers are viable...

I have gone to the Del Co Veterans Admin for help--but once again, it may well get lost in the shuffle, but I'm hoping not.

I have had zero luck with the National Archive and lost $75 in acquiring CW Pension Records for someone with the same name and wife the same name only this man and wife came from Montgomery County---there is no other way of definitively determining for sure if it is the right pension other than ordering it and losing $75 if you are wrong.. and that is what happened to me.

The other option that has been told to me several times is the scenario that "someone came in and willy-nilly just decided to pull up the GAR Star from another grave and put it on your 3x great grandfather's grave"... sorry I don't buy that one iota... people who go into the cemetery don't move those things.. especially when I cannot pull it up with all my might---more likely anyone going into the cemetery at night is there to cause trouble and not to change GAR Markers.. I believe that it was put there by whatever group is responsible for doing so---and I cannot seem to find who did it and why they did it ... But I also believe that there were many jobs that were possibly more "local" in Delaware Co where some men were there to do other jobs for the CW and not within a Regt...

I would love to hear any further comment on this or hear of anyone else with this same situation besides myself and Istevens 3500

Thank you

Ann

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From: lstevens <lsteve...@gmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone

[Jan Myers]

May I suggest that you go to the “Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War” (SUVCW). 

 

Are you only attempting to ascertain that you 3x great grandfather should have a GAR marker by his headstone or are you still searching for his records? 

 

I’m sure there are many people who would like to help you, but we would need your ancestor’s name to get started.

 

Jan

 

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From: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Alt
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:31 AM
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone

[Anne Alt]

Hi Jan:  I apologize -- The Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War is the site that is between 10 and 15 years since it's updating.. I spoke with one person (ONLY ONE out of a whole page) who had a viable home phone number)... And yes, someone from the Metro Library in Columbus had suggested I contact them... (sorry I was confusing the Ladies of the GAR with SUVCW)...  I'm thankful that one gentleman has tried and did pass on my name and circumstance--but at this point things are looking slim..

Both questions are what I am trying to determine answers for, Jan... I thought I had a "slam dunk" with locating a man AND his wife with the identical names of my great grandparents x 3...but once paid for and received, I found out that the couple were from Montgomery Co, and not Delaware Co (which is where my great grandparents x 3 spent ALL of their youth and adult lives and are buried there)...

Info: 

William J Williams born 1819 in Wales--- Wife Lydia Williams 

Both resided in Radnor, Delaware County, Ohio and were married at the time of the CW

William J Williams and his brother Morris Williams registered together and their names appear on the registry but only Morris has the traditional CW headstone on his grave at the Thompson Shoup Cemetery in Thompson Twp, Delaware Co, Ohio. 

There are other William Williams from Delaware County listed-- however, at the Registrars Office there were only two who supplied their DD214 after the CW and neither were my Wm  Williams.

So the bottom line is this.. Did Wm J Williams serve in a lesser capacity or more locally--- so as to deserve the GAR post that has been by his headstone for so many years... If so, in what capacity did he serve.. because no one has been able to determine actual service.. and that is why I mentioned that the VA office said they would send in a request for info...

If you have any suggestions where I can search further, I am very happy to do so, so as to determine his actual service or whether there was an obvious error somewhere many years ago--- I just have it in my heart and soul that that GAR star was put there with intent and purpose-- and not just willy nilly put randomly on his grave... this has not been the case at Radnor Cemetery in Radnor Ohio... family members and also long-time family friends have been the caretakers of the graves there, and there has never been any reports of markers being changed around...

Thanks for your questions and response..

Ann

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From: Jan Myers <trueb...@gmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone

May I suggest that you go to the “Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War” (SUVCW). 

 

Are you only attempting to ascertain that you 3x great grandfather should have a GAR marker by his headstone or are you still searching for his records? 

 

I’m sure there are many people who would like to help you, but we would need your ancestor’s name to get started.

 

Jan

 

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From: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com [mailto: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Anne Alt
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:31 AM
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone

 

Hello to all:  My 3x great grandfather is buried in Delaware County, Ohio ... by his headstone is also the GAR Marker.. and it has been there for as long as I have been alive (abt 60 years) and was there before that; however, I'm like Istevens5300---my 3x great grandfather did not sign up for a pension nor did he go to the recorders office in Delaware County Ohio and "register"---believe me, hardly any of them did but supposedly knowledgeable people have told me they HAD to... (sorry that is not the case)...

[Martin Stewart]

My GG Grandfather Samuel Slusser has a GAR marker next to his grave in Champaign County – but I am convinced he never served.  I think the markers were originally set in place by the local GAR Posts in conjunction with each Cemetery.   The marker on Samuel’s grave can be easily pulled out of the earth and most likely was misplaced at some point.

 

Martin

 

From: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Alt

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:31 AM
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone

[Jan Myers]

Hi Ann,

 

To make sure I am on the right track, did your ancestor die on October 15, 1909?

 

Thank you,

[Judy Miller]

Ann,
I was just on ancestry.com. According to them, both William and Morris
did register together. I found two pension records in the name of
William Williams. The one that is probably correct is one for Co. K,
4th Ohio Cavalry. He filed 21 May 1892 as an invalid. Lydia A Williams
is listed as the widow and she filed as such on 3 Apr 1922 (the last
two numbers are small but it looks like 22). Would that be him? It all
adds up but why would she have waited so long after he died to sign up
for a pension? Of course, it could be the record keeping. I've saved a
copy to my computer should you want it.
I have not found a enlisted/muster paper which most of them have.
Judy in NW Ohio who has a number of family members who served in the Civil War

--
Baby Boomers are not old, they are chronologically gifted.

[Anne Alt]

Yes he did.. wife Lydia Ann Coonfare Williams who preceeded him in death

Father to Edward Thomas Williams, Homer Benjamin Williams, Mary Manerva Williams, and Lydia A Williams

He is buried at Radnor Cemetery

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From: Jan Myers <trueb...@gmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:44 AM

Subject: RE: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone

Hi Ann,

 

To make sure I am on the right track, did your ancestor die on October 15, 1909?

 

Thank you,

 

Jan

 

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From: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com [mailto: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Anne Alt
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:55 PM
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone

 

Hi Jan:  I apologize -- The Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War is the site that is between 10 and 15 years since it's updating.. I spoke with one person (ONLY ONE out of a whole page) who had a viable home phone number)... And yes, someone from the Metro Library in Columbus had suggested I contact them... (sorry I was confusing the Ladies of the GAR with SUVCW)...  I'm thankful that one gentleman has tried and did pass on my name and circumstance--but at this point things are looking slim..

 

Both questions are what I am trying to determine answers for, Jan... I thought I had a "slam dunk" with locating a man AND his wife with the identical names of my great grandparents x 3...but once paid for and received, I found out that the couple were from Montgomery Co, and not Delaware Co (which is where my great grandparents x 3 spent ALL of their youth and adult lives and are buried there)...

 

Info: 

 

William J Williams born 1819 in Wales--- Wife Lydia Williams 

Both resided in Radnor , Delaware County, Ohio and were married at the time of the CW

[Judy Miller]

I hadn't looked at his wife's date of death. This could be his
daughter, Lydia A. She is listed in the widow's column.
Date of filing: 3 April 1922
Application No. 1187722
Certificate No. 916540 (I think it's a five)
State from which filed: Ohio

When he filed:
Date of Filing: 21 May 1892
Class: Invalid
Application No: 1112462
Certificate No. 855268
State from which filed: Ohio

Signed at the bottom by J. McFadden
Judy

[Anne Alt]

Once again, Jan-- you fell for the same thing that I did.... that is the one I purchased from the National Archives... but it is NOT my Wm J Williams... you see he lived beyond Lydia ... so there would be NO Widow pension...Lydia died in something like 1898---sorry not looking at Ancestry at this moment..... and the one you are looking at (that I too misconstrued as being my  great grandfather x 3) are the couple who lived all their lives in Montgomery Co and died there...

 I have the whole darn file here and I will donate it to the historical society of Montgomery Co... because I refuse to toss it away-- dang it.. $75 bucks down the drain for me!!

Back to square one, Jan..

And yes I am on Ancestry and yes I have the same thing with regard to Wm and his brother Morris registering together.. their names appear one after the other.. so that is definitely them in terms of registration for the draft.

Morris did serve..and has the headstone to prove it and is buried at Thompson Shoup Cemetery in Thompson Twp, Delaware County...

Again, sorry you got sucked in the way I did.. but I did mention this previously in what I had encountered..

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From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:46 PM

[Anne Alt]

Sorry Judy... that was meant for you--and not Jan.. I apologize..

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From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:46 PM

[Judy Miller]

According to ancestry, wife Lydia died in 1902. His daughter, Lydia
died in 1880s.
Is it possible that William applied for a pension and someone later
wrote down the widow part in error?
Judy

[Judy Miller]

No problem. I've been as frustrated as you. Records differ every where
you look. I did find the roster for the 10th Cavalry, Company D which
had my Great Grandfather's brother listed on it. So it wasn't a waste
of time for me.

There is a William J Williams born in Pennsylvania too. There are too
many people with that name so it's difficult to tell. Mine are mostly
Clingaman and Fauver. Not easily mistaken.
Judy

[Anne Alt]

Hi Judy..

As I mentioned.. I have the whole pension file that you are talking about... it is not him.. nor is it is wife Lydia or his daughter Lydia...  I see where you are going with the idea.. but as I said, I have that file ..paid dearly for it and it is not him.

The pensioner you are mentioning lived and died and is buried in Montgomery County in the Dayton Ohio area... I've looked thoroughly at the pension as I ordered it thinking the same thing you are.. and it is not my Wm J Williams...  My great grandmother x 3 and great grandfather x 3 lived and died in Radnor Ohio.. which is in Delaware County... heart of Ohio...  Their children all grew up there in Delaware Co and Wm J and his wife Lydia Ann are both buried in Radnor Cemetery

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From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:25 PM

[Judy Miller]

Did someone fake this pension? How many Lydia A Williams were there?
I know Delaware County slightly. I went to church camp at Magnetic
Springs when I was a kid. Beautiful place.
Judy

[Anne Alt]

Well here is what I've been saying..  Lydia A Williams was never a widow... She died before her husband did... so we now are simply looking for a William J Williams or simply a William Williams--- therein is the problem once again..

1.  I've been told that ALL of the CW vets HAD to go to the county registrar's office and submit their DD214.. found out that that is bull so don't let anyone tell you that without a challenge as there were only two listed in Delaware Co under the surname of Williams, and Morris Williams (brother of my Wm J DID serve and he did NOT submit his DD214 although he lived and died in Delaware Co).

2.  Just because someone SERVED in some capacity, they did not always apply for a pension ...so we also have to keep that uppermost...

3.  As I cannot seem to determine that he served in any sort of Regiment for Ohio, and he bears no CW headstone, but only the CW GAR Marker by his own personal headstone, then we can perhaps look at auxiliary jobs that Wm J Williams might have done for the war effort and therefore received the GAR Star... to me this seems legitimate and highly possible--remember that NOT ALL were soldiers.. there had to be other ways that a man could serve his country...

So now you can see what I am up against.. I dearly want to find a reason for that GAR star being there.. I want to know his involvement.. and I just don't know where further to turn--there has got to be axillary records somewhere..

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From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:38 PM

[Judy Miller]

Sorry, I've been a little obtuse. My boyfriend has Parkinson's and, at
times, I just about am wiped out. So I didn't read the entire bunch of
info.

More info is becoming available all the time. Perhaps more will be
released later.
I don't think you had to register to get a star but I'm not sure. No,
not everyone did apply for a pension.

Is it possible that because he had registered, they put a star on his
grave? Just asking.
There are a lot of CW graves around here but have been looking for
some to add info to their FAG and have found little or nothing about
them so far.
Judy

[Anne Alt]

Please:  Judy and Jan:  ..

I appreciate your enthusiasm over this pension file.. but I have the whole file right beside me.. I paid $75 for it from the National Archive... Have looked in depth at the file and it is from a William Williams (not a William J Williams) from Montgomery County Ohio which is a good 1-1/2 hours drive in a modern car from Delaware County, Ohio...

It is not him.. nor is the Lydia mine.. apparently Lydia was a traditional and typical name during that time period.. but it is not Lydia Coonfare nor their daughter Lydia Ann Williams ...

Hate to damper your thought process but what is --is..

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From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>

To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:13 PM

[Anne Alt]

Hi Judy..

I don't know the why's and wherefor's with regard to whatever group it was the responsibility for putting GAR Stars on graves... whatever group that is would have that information... Certainly any group doing this would have had to have had a reason to go to Radnor Cemetery because it is a little bit out of the way-- To me it is clear that someone was looking for his grave and placed it there .. there must have been a reason...

Again-- did the county or state give out GAR Stars to those who worked in auxillary positions ?.. there must be someone who has an answer to this question.. Clearly there would be many people who would have EARNED a GAR star if they were there aiding the "cause"... But again, there must be some groups out there who are knowledgeable about this situation... I just have to find them..

In the meantime, I have joined the Ladies of the GAR via William J William's brother Morris.. so that is no longer an issue of having a direct line to join--however it will always be a mystery to me.. and since there appears to be others with this same situation...then it bears looking into..

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From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:27 PM

[Judy Miller]

Okay, it's not him. Try the 123 OVI, Co. E.
\http://www.archive.org/stream/keyes123rdreg00charrich/keyes123rdreg00charrich_djvu.txt
Just thought you might find something there.
Judy

[Anne Alt]

I can tell you that it is something to try-- and just wanted to say that Huron County is ajacent to where I live--within 2 miles--and I live (driving at a pretty hefty clip) a 90 minute drive from Radnor, Ohio... so here is my question to you... How would a guy living with his family there in little Radnor Ohio near to the center of Ohio be recruited over a whole day's drive by the standard of 1860's from his home?..  Here again, I don't know if it was "typical" to recruit someone from an area so far away... Is it possible that it is him?.. yeah--possibly--  Is it probable?.. I've got my doubts but my best source at this time is Fold 3... unless you have any other ways of checking a military record which might give further information on specifics of those serving.. it is just a "by guess and by golly" at this point..  One thing is for sure.. I refuse to purchase any other pension records unless I have no doubt it is Wm J Williams and belonging to my family.. 

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From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:51 PM

[Tom Kirkpatrick]

My Great Grandfather joined up with the 49th Ohio Infantry in Ceveland and he lived in Celina Ohio up in the northwest corner. It all depended on which regiment was forming at the time and how bad they wanted to join. I live about 20 miles from Radnor and it is still a little wide spot in the road. Maybe 15 houses?

[Judy Miller]

Did he go to Camp Chase?
Judy

[OVVI]

Greetings...I am the Graves Registration Office for the Ohio Dept of the SUVCW.  I have read this thread and hopefully can shed some light on this situation.  Sadly this is not an uncommon problem, where a servicemarker is adjacent a grave and no one knows the details.  First let me ask about the flagholder itself.  Does it say GAR and have the Post number?  If so, it is possible that some records from that GAR Post have survived and can prove service.  The original GAR service markers were meant only for GAR members and to be a GAR brother, one had to be a CW veteran.  So called "local" service etc would not be accepted as meeting the requirements for membership.  There were local Ohio National Guard companies during the war, but in 1864 the Gov of Ohio had them consolidated into regiments to be sent as 100 days units for the defense of Washington. 

   As to the forming of volunteer infantry regiments, a thousand man unit was basically made up from 10 100 man companies.  Most companies came from men of a specific town or county, but most regiments had companies from differing counties.  For example, the 64th OVI which I research, had companies from Richland, Ashland, Crawford, Marion and other counties including Van Wert which is on the other side of the state.  It was simply a matter of raising the 100 men and offering them to the Gov for service.  Many men volunteered and served in units outside their home area.  Later too in the war when volunteers grew scarce, the draft was instituted and while men registered in their home districts, once drafted they were sent forward to where the armies where and were put into units that were depleted.  So it is not uncommon to find men in units with no local connection.

    Sadly I can also report that is not uncommon to find service markers on the wrong grave.  I have personally seen many instances of CW service markers on the graves of people who were born after the Civil War.  Sometimes it is kids who move them, buts mostly its cemetery workers who take them up to mow and then cant remember which grave they go with.

  

Kent Dorr

SUVCW

Mansfield

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From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>

To: ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone

Okay, it's not him. Try the 123 OVI, Co. E.
\http://www.archive.org/stream/keyes123rdreg00charrich/keyes123rdreg00charrich_djvu.txt
Just thought you might find something there.
Judy

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Anne Alt <celtica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Please:  Judy and Jan:  ..
>
> I appreciate your enthusiasm over this pension file.. but I have the whole
> file right beside me.. I paid $75 for it from the National Archive... Have
> looked in depth at the file and it is from a William Williams (not a William
> J Williams) from Montgomery County Ohio which is a good 1-1/2 hours drive in
> a modern car from Delaware County, Ohio...
>
> It is not him.. nor is the Lydia mine.. apparently Lydia was a traditional
> and typical name during that time period.. but it is not Lydia Coonfare nor
> their daughter Lydia Ann Williams ...
>
> Hate to damper your thought process but what is --is..
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>

> To: ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com

> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:13 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone
>
> I hadn't looked at his wife's date of death. This could be his
> daughter, Lydia A. She is listed in the widow's column.
> Date of filing: 3 April 1922
> Application No. 1187722
> Certificate No. 916540 (I think it's a five)
> State from which filed: Ohio
>
> When he filed:
> Date of Filing: 21 May 1892
> Class: Invalid
> Application No: 1112462
> Certificate No. 855268
> State from which filed: Ohio
>
> Signed at the bottom by J. McFadden
> Judy
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Anne Alt <celtica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Yes he did.. wife Lydia Ann Coonfare Williams who preceeded him in death
>>
>> Father to Edward Thomas Williams, Homer Benjamin Williams, Mary Manerva
>> Williams, and Lydia A Williams
>>
>> He is buried at Radnor Cemetery
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jan Myers <trueb...@gmail.com>

>> To: ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com

>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:44 AM
>>
>> Subject: RE: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone
>>
>> Hi Ann,
>>
>> To make sure I am on the right track, did your ancestor die on October 15,
>> 1909?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> ________________________________

>> From: ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Anne Alt

>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:55 PM

>> To: ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com

>> To: ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com

>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:41 AM
>> Subject: RE: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone
>>
>> May I suggest that you go to the “Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War”
>> (SUVCW).
>>
>> Are you only attempting to ascertain that you 3x great grandfather should
>> have a GAR marker by his headstone or are you still searching for his
>> records?
>>
>> I’m sure there are many people who would like to help you, but we would
>> need
>> your ancestor’s name to get started.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> ________________________________

>> From: ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Anne Alt

>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:31 AM

>> To: ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com

>> To: ohio-in-the-civil-war-@googlegroups.com

[Judy Miller]

Kent,
Not to change the subject but on the SUVCW site, my great grandfather
was the last living CW veteran in Fulton County, Ohio. The people
doing the work put 105th or 195th on Daniel A Clingaman's grave. It is
supposed to be 195th.
Thanks,
Judy Miller

>> To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

>> > To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

>> >> To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:44 AM
>> >>
>> >> Subject: RE: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone
>> >>
>> >> Hi Ann,
>> >>
>> >> To make sure I am on the right track, did your ancestor die on October
>> >> 15,
>> >> 1909?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you,
>> >>
>> >> Jan
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________

>> >> From: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> >> ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Anne Alt

>> >> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:55 PM

>> >> To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

>> >> To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

>> >> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:41 AM
>> >> Subject: RE: Looking for ancestry info from Grave Stone
>> >>
>> >> May I suggest that you go to the “Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil
>> >> War”
>> >> (SUVCW).
>> >>
>> >> Are you only attempting to ascertain that you 3x great grandfather
>> >> should
>> >> have a GAR marker by his headstone or are you still searching for his
>> >> records?
>> >>
>> >> I’m sure there are many people who would like to help you, but we would
>> >> need
>> >> your ancestor’s name to get started.
>> >>
>> >> Jan
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________

>> >> From: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> >> ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Anne Alt

>> >> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:31 AM

>> >> To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

>> >> To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com

[Tom Kirkpatrick]

Yes Camp Chase. He spent 4 years of fighting in the war and survived it. He
was mostly in the western campaigns but was involved with the siege of
Atlanta. He didn't die until 1913.

>>> May I suggest that you go to the �Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil
>>> War�

>>> (SUVCW).
>>>
>>> Are you only attempting to ascertain that you 3x great grandfather
>>> should
>>> have a GAR marker by his headstone or are you still searching for his
>>> records?
>>>

>>> I�m sure there are many people who would like to help you, but we would
>>> need
>>> your ancestor�s name to get started.

[Judy Miller]

My great grandfather's brother, John Clingaman, went to Camp Chase to
sign up. We live west of Toledo so that was quite a trek for him. He
was in the 10th Cavalry, Co. D.
My great grandfather, Daniel Clingaman, and another brother, Andrew
Jackson Clingaman, joined the 195th in early 1865 soon after he turned
18.
John died in 1927, Andrew in 1902 (due to an accident) and Daniel in 1951.
Judy

>>>> May I suggest that you go to the “Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil
>>>> War”

>>>> (SUVCW).
>>>>
>>>> Are you only attempting to ascertain that you 3x great grandfather
>>>> should
>>>> have a GAR marker by his headstone or are you still searching for his
>>>> records?
>>>>

>>>> I’m sure there are many people who would like to help you, but we would
>>>> need
>>>> your ancestor’s name to get started.

[Anne Alt]

Tom:  It is still there and I'm losing cousins left and right... but more and more people are moving in from Delaware/Columbus area.. so there are more houses than you might remember.  They are down to two churches.. and a couple of businesses; however the village is well-cared-for.  My 2nd cousin is one of the township trustees....There is major talk of tearing down the old Radnor School which I'm so against.. as so many of my family went there and graduated from it...

they have a museum in the basement of the vol. fire department--and are doing their best to keep the Welsh aspect of Radnor alive... I attended their St. David's Day Celebration as there is my main Williams and Davis family in direct lineage.. but the numbers of those whose families were early settlers of Radnor are thinning out ...  but the interest is still there and I hope to continue to attend and hope that descendants of those who attended in March will put forth the effort to keep it going

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From: Tom Kirkpatrick <kirk...@embarqmail.com>
To: ohio-in-the...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:51 PM

[Judy Miller]

While visiting a nearby cemetery, we saw an entire row of graves with
the GAR stars beside them. There are no names anywhere, not even on
the map of the cemetery.
Would there be records anywhere that might give us any names? The
cemetery in which they are buried was the county seat at the time but
due to the railroad being built several miles south of it, the county
seat moved to that town.
Judy

[Anne Alt]

Judy-- try calling the closest funeral home to ask who is in charge of the burials at the cemetery if it is still in use ... and if not still in use, I would then check with the county historical society or genealogical society..  You might also check online as to what township the cemetery is located, and see, online, who the township trustees are and call one of those folks..  They could also point you possibly in the right direction. 

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From: Judy Miller <whiter...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:48 AM