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 More options Feb 9 2012, 3:25 pm
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 22:25:36 +0200
Local: Thurs, Feb 9 2012 3:25 pm
Subject: Fw: Help the protests this Saturday
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 20:11:50 +0000
From: Fight For The Future <i...@fightforthefuture.org>
To: <v...@ukr.net>
Subject: Help the protests this Saturday

Hi--

Together, we beat SOPA in a huge victory for internet freedom.  But
this Saturday, internet freedom protests are breaking out in over 200
cities across Europe.  Why?  

Because the companies behind SOPA are using international trade
agreements as a backdoor to pass SOPA-style laws

http://killacta.org

SOPA's supporters are pushing two agreements: ACTA and TPP1.  ACTA
would criminalize users, encourage internet providers to spy on you,
and make it easier for media companies to sue sites out of existence
and jail their founders.  Sound familiar?  That's right, ACTA is from
the same playbook as SOPA, but global.  Plus it didn't even have to
pass through Congress2.

TPP goes even farther than ACTA, and the process has been even more
secretive and corrupt.  Last weekend (we wish this was a joke) trade
negotiators partied with MPAA (pro-SOPA) lobbyists before secret
negotiations in a Hollywood hotel, while public interest groups were
barred from meeting in the same building.3

Trade agreements are a gaping loophole, a secretive backdoor track
that--even though it creates new laws--is miles removed from
democracy.  Trade negotiators are unelected and unaccountable, so these
agreements have been very hard for internet rights groups to stop.

But now the tide is turning.  Fueled by the movement to stop SOPA,
anti-ACTA protests are breaking out across the EU, which hasn't
ratified ACTA.  The protests are having an impact: leaders in Poland,
the Czech Republic, and Slovakia have backtracked on ACTA.4  Now a
massive round of street protests in over 200 cities is planned for this
Saturday February 11th.

We're planning an online protest this Saturday to support the protests
in the streets.  Why?  Because together we can drive millions of emails
to key decision makers--and start tipping the scales like we did on
SOPA.

Can you take part?  Click here to get the code to run on your site!

http://killacta.org/#code

We just built an ACTA & TPP contact tool, and it's not just a
petition.   It's code for your site that figures out the visitor's
country and lets them email all their Members of European
Parliament--the politicians who will be voting on ACTA in June--or the
trade negotiators behind TPP.  This direct contact between voters and
their officials, driven by websites of all sizes, was instrumental in
the fight against SOPA.  

We can use the same tactics to defeat ACTA & TPP, but we need your help!

Support the street protests with a flood of emails to the officials
responsible for ACTA & TPP.  Get the code for your website!

http://killacta.org/#code

Don't have a website?  Tell officials in your country to scrap ACTA &
TPP!   And spread the word about Saturday's protests!

http://killacta.org

This is going to be tough fight.  But we need to make secretive trade
agreements harder to pass than US law.  If we don't, our internet's
future belongs to the lobbyists behind SOPA.    

This is just the beginning,

--Holmes Wilson, Tiffiniy Cheng, Joshua Blount & the whole Fight for
the Future team.

P.S. This map of ACTA street protests in Europe is amazing. The largest
has almost 50,000 RSVP's!

http://killacta.org/#map

Sources:

1. For more information on ACTA, read these excellent articles from
Techdirt (http://is.gd/DDpmwZ) and La Quadrature du Net
(http://is.gd/egOwmF). For information on TPP, read this Ars Technica
piece (http://is.gd/52jGrj). For video, watch this
(http://is.gd/s0porF).

2. Obama's signing of ACTA may have been unconstitutional. See
Anti-counterfeiting agreement raises constitutional concerns
(http://is.gd/afl8ad) and Techdirt (http://is.gd/oT6BWT).

3. Hollywood gets to party with TPP negotiators, public interest groups
get thrown out of the hotel (http://is.gd/utoecM).

4. Ars Technica: Czech, Slovak governments backing away from ACTA, too
(http://is.gd/5S8mcM).

-----
 <v...@ukr.net>


 
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Александр Милушев  
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 More options Feb 9 2012, 3:39 pm
From: Александр Милушев <zunk...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 22:39:18 +0200
Local: Thurs, Feb 9 2012 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

Глубоко сомневаюсь, не тот у нас народ.

9 февраля 2012 г. 22:25 пользователь <v...@ukr.net> написал:


 
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Oleg Tsybulskyi  
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 More options Feb 10 2012, 12:25 am
From: Oleg Tsybulskyi <alog...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:25:25 +0200
Local: Fri, Feb 10 2012 12:25 am
Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

А ведь казлось бы, нет ничего трудного просто прийти куда-то, чтоб
показать, что мы есть и нас много.

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 More options Feb 10 2012, 2:36 am
From: Александр Милушев <zunk...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:36:28 +0200
Local: Fri, Feb 10 2012 2:36 am
Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

Тут Вы правы, нет ничего трудного, но вот только если бы у нас люди хотели
отстаивать свои интересы, мы бы жили в совсем другой стране.

10 февраля 2012 г. 7:25 пользователь Oleg Tsybulskyi <alog...@gmail.com>написал:


 
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 More options Feb 10 2012, 2:50 am
From: Oleg Tsybulskyi <alog...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:50:50 +0200
Local: Fri, Feb 10 2012 2:50 am
Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

Украина там по карте -- пустыня. Характерный такой показатель
европейскости.

 
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 More options Feb 10 2012, 4:07 am
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:07:03 +0200
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Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday
2012/2/10 Александр Милушев <zunk...@gmail.com>:

> Тут Вы правы, нет ничего трудного, но вот только если бы у нас люди хотели
> отстаивать свои интересы, мы бы жили в совсем другой стране.

Жаловаться на людей - это очень эффективно. Сейчас OdLUG разберется и
завезет в нашу хохляндию других, более правильных людей.

--
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 More options Feb 10 2012, 5:03 am
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:03:19 +0200
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Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

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 More options Feb 10 2012, 5:12 am
From: Max Yurchenko <yur...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:12:52 +0200
Local: Fri, Feb 10 2012 5:12 am
Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

>> А смысл  проводить митинги если законопроект не рассматривается Украиной!

ты это будешь таможенникам рассказывать когда где нибудь в европе
будут потрошить твой телефон и обнаружат виннипух.мр3.

 
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 More options Feb 10 2012, 5:21 am
From: Vitaliy Frolov <frolic...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:21:55 +0200
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Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

10 февраля 2012 г. 12:12 пользователь Max Yurchenko <yur...@gmail.com>написал:

> >> А смысл  проводить митинги если законопроект не рассматривается
> Украиной!

> ты это будешь таможенникам рассказывать когда где нибудь в европе
> будут потрошить твой телефон и обнаружат виннипух.мр3.

> Резонно, но мы не можем протестовать против принятия законов другого

государства!

 
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 More options Feb 10 2012, 5:54 am
From: Max Yurchenko <yur...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:54:31 +0200
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Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

> Резонно, но мы не можем протестовать против принятия законов другого
> государства!

ну а трактовать это как оказание моральной поддержки жителям стран
попавших под раздачу? :-)
да и нас это может коснуться аж бегом, причем могут пострадать люди
которые про эту тему даже ни краем уха.
например человек далекий от всего этого, имея свежую киношку на
планшете после расслабления при перелёте получит анальный зонд и
отмену визы , в последствии дай бог не на всегда, плюс штраф туеву
хучу денег.
даже самые истовые мусульманские страны так не относятся к тем кто
везет запрещенное у них спиртное, максимум это изъятие на таможне.

 
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 More options Feb 10 2012, 8:04 am
From: Александр Милушев <zunk...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:04:20 +0200
Local: Fri, Feb 10 2012 8:04 am
Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

Так я сам такой, и не жалуюсь а факт констатирую.

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 More options Feb 10 2012, 3:14 pm
From: Oleg Tsybulskyi <alog...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:14:30 +0200
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Subject: Re: [OdLUG] Fw: Help the protests this Saturday

Ну что ж, организуем флешмоб значит в следующий раз, оповестив всех чуть
раньше, чем накануне. Пока ограничимся подписями в
защиту<https://www.accessnow.org/page/s/just-say-no-to-acta>
.


 
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