vacation/hurty hands
Nicole Sullivan
Chris Eppstein
Enjoy your vacation, I'm starting mine tomorrow also :)
I'm using just
.context { overflow: hidden; zoom: 1}
to clearfix while creating a new formatting context.
what benefit does *overflow:visible;*zoom:1 provide over what I've
got? Is there harm in letting zoom be set for ie > 7, why do you need
to set overflow to visible in that context? It seems like that would
create an inconsistent behavior.
-Chris
P.S. Please give those hands a rest too! (Right after you reply ;)
Jos Hirth
Get the flattest keyboard you can get. Don't use its fold-out feet
(worst invention ever). Keep your wrists straight.
Watch your posture. Sit straight. The upper edge of your monitor
should be at eye level.
Try a different mouse. If your mouse is just 3mm too short, it will
result in lots of pain. [1]
Take a short break every hour. No exceptions.
Don't do all of your scrolling with the mouse wheel.
[1] This issue is surprisingly hard to pinpoint for some reason.
People adjust to slight discomfort and start to ignore it. Even if you
ask them they will tell you that their mouse is perfectly fine - even
if it's responsible for more than 90% of their physical misery. When
in doubt, try a larger mouse.
Nicole Sullivan
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Ragnar Mogård Bergem
Ethan Resnick
-Ethan
Joshua Bullock
Enjoy your mini-break away from the pixels!
Brian Moon
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-000806-Trackman-Marble-Mouse/dp/B001F42MKG/ref=dp_cp_ob_pc_title_2
since 1998. Not sure if it has kept me from pain or not. But, it
definitely limits my arm movement to zero.
Brian.
http://brian.moonspot.net
On 8/16/11 2:13 AM, Ethan Resnick wrote:
> I love this
> <http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Optical-Silver/dp/B00005NIMJ/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1313478564&sr=1-7>
> mouse. Because it's a trackball, you don't have to move your arm all
> day, just roll the ball. Not sure how it is for RSI, but the ball is
> very low friction so I've never had any problems.
>
> -Ethan
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Ragnar Mogård Bergem
> <r.m.b...@gmail.com <mailto:r.m.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I suggest you go to a computer store and try some of them out. It's
> hard tell without actually trying it.
>
> Med vennlig hilsen,
>
> Ragnar Mogård Bergem
> r.m.b...@gmail.com <mailto:r.m.b...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Den 16. aug. 2011 kl. 09:01 skrev Nicole Sullivan:
>
>> Any suggestions for a larger mouse? The mouse hand does hurt more...
>>
>> N
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Jos Hirth
>> <google...@kaioa.com <mailto:google...@kaioa.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Works for me:
>>
>> Get the flattest keyboard you can get. Don't use its fold-out feet
>> (worst invention ever). Keep your wrists straight.
>>
>> Watch your posture. Sit straight. The upper edge of your monitor
>> should be at eye level.
>>
>> Try a different mouse. If your mouse is just 3mm too short, it
>> will
>> result in lots of pain. [1]
>>
>> Take a short break every hour. No exceptions.
>>
>> Don't do all of your scrolling with the mouse wheel.
>>
>> [1] This issue is surprisingly hard to pinpoint for some reason.
>> People adjust to slight discomfort and start to ignore it.
>> Even if you
>> ask them they will tell you that their mouse is perfectly fine
>> - even
>> if it's responsible for more than 90% of their physical
>> misery. When
>> in doubt, try a larger mouse.
>>
>> On Aug 16, 5:09 am, Nicole Sullivan <nic...@stubbornella.org
>> <mailto:nic...@stubbornella.org>> wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I just wanted to let you know that I'm going to be offline
>> for the next three weeks. It seems I've given myself carpal
>> tunnel, tennis elbow, and a pinched ulnar nerve. Ooops. I
>> guess that explains the pain and numbness while typing.
>> >
>> > Anyway, I'll soon be back, please be good to one another
>> while I'm away. ;)
>> >
>> > I pushed something new, and weird tonight. It is a way of
>> creating grids, media, and modules with an new formatting
>> context, created via overflow:hidden, but in absence of
>> position relative or negative positioning, it doesn't crop
>> contents. Let me know what you think. Is it workable? Are
>> there any weird bugs? Can we live without position relative?
>> This idea came from discussions with @thierrykoblentz.
>> >
>> > Nicole
>> >
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Nate
I broke my right wrist 2x when growing up so I had to find
alternatives to work with that issue. Currently, I use two things and
so not have problems on my OSX computers:
1. Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002OOWC3S/ref=mp_s_a_2?qid=1313505683&sr=8-2
This gives me an osx like touch pad for my desktop and a pen for
graphic manipulation. It took about 3 days to get used to it but now I
love it and my hand no longer hurts.
2. Microsoft Natual Keyboard
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005FMJMY8/ref=mp_s_a_6?qid=1313505335&sr=8-6
Love this ergonomic keyboard and again takes a few days to get used to
but once you do it is hard to go back.
On Aug 16, 8:52 am, Brian Moon <br...@moonspot.net> wrote:
> Similarly, I have been usinghttp://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-000806-Trackman-Marble-Mouse/dp/B0...
> definitely limits my arm movement to zero.
>
> On 8/16/11 2:13 AM, Ethan Resnick wrote:
>
>
>
> > I love this
> > day, just roll the ball. Not sure how it is for RSI, but the ball is
> > very low friction so I've never had any problems.
>
> > -Ethan
>
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Ragnar Mogård Bergem
> > <r.m.ber...@gmail.com <mailto:r.m.ber...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > I suggest you go to a computer store and try some of them out. It's
> > hard tell without actually trying it.
>
> > Med vennlig hilsen,
>
> > Ragnar Mogård Bergem
> > Den 16. aug. 2011 kl. 09:01 skrev Nicole Sullivan:
>
> >> Any suggestions for a larger mouse? The mouse hand does hurt more...
>
> >> N
>
> >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Jos Hirth
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Nick Rathert
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Optical-Silver/dp/B00005NIMJ/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1313478564&sr=1-7
Has anyone used a Magic Trackpad long enough to know how well it
reduces strain and pain? It seems like it might be a good solution.
I definitely like the one on my MBP.
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Jos Hirth
> Any suggestions for a larger mouse? The mouse hand does hurt more...
slightly bulkier asymmetric model with 2000dpi from 2007.
>I almost want a wider mouse too, so my fingers aren't falling off the edge.
acceleration. I use my pinky for friction control. Feels very natural
to let it slide over the table.
Well, I agree with Ragnar, it's a good idea to try them in a store.
I'm not sure if weight is an important factor. I always go with wired
(=lighter) models because I only need to move the mouse a few cm.
Also, I don't use a mouse pad (=better angle). The sensor works on any
surface - even on glass (witchcraft!).
I suggest to try Logitech's G500 [1] and G9x [2]. The G500 is very
similar to the G5/G7. It's the "usual" organic blob shape, which seems
to work fine for most people. The G9x is somewhat different. It's
shipped with 2 different grips (a normal one and an extra wide one),
which means you can experiment a bit. I only used it for a few minutes
though; I can't offer an opinion.
Another thing, you might want to check out, are vertical mice [3].
Some people really love them. I for one haven't even seen on in real
life. No idea if they really are that good.
[1] Logitech G500: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/devices/5750
[2] Logitech G9x http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/devices/5092
[3] Evoluent VerticalMouse 4: http://www.evoluent.com/vm4r.htm
Kevin A. Cameron
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I second this keyboard. Been using it for the last several years.
Really helps make my posture better without having to pay much
attention.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Revolution-Ergonomic-Notebooks-Hyper-Fast/dp/B000HCRVUS
I also use a large mouse, this is the one I've been using the two or
so years. I liked the model right before it better, but it's ok. I
also have a gel pad support in front of the mouse.
I keep a pair of wrist braces at all my desks (work and home) and by
my bed. On days when I start having pain I wear the braces for
anywhere from a few hours to a few days. Looks unfashionable, but
works.
Amy Hendrix
just add not to forget that your desk and chair are also part of the
equation. I had hand/wrist pain for years in spite of switching
between mice, trackpads, tablets, etc, and the only long-term relief
was moving to a desk where my keyboard could be adjusted to the height
*I* needed (which may or may not be the same as standard desk height
for any given person).
Rest until you're better, and take care of yourself!
Kevin Vance
Matthew Browne
I realize you addressed this message to Nicole, but I just wanted to send you a link that was incredibly helpful to me when I had repetitive strain injury:
http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions%20Pages/Exercises.htm
I found the stretches and nerve glide exercises to be the most helpful.
That site has other info on carpal tunnel, tendonitis and other hand/wrist problems as well.
I would definitely recommend seeing a specialist, if you haven't already, but if you're currently waiting to see one or if you've already been and are still experiencing pain despite following their recommendations, that link is the very best resource I've found in terms of exercises you can do on your own.
Keep in mind that you'll probably need to do the exercises several times a day (at least at first), even on days when you're not using the computer at all.
Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll be interested to hear what Nicole has to say as well, since it sounds like her case was pretty severe!
Best wishes,
Matt
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Nicole Sullivan
Micky Hulse
I've actually found that a small Wacom tablet (with a comfy wrist
support, purchase separately) has been a miracle worker for my
hand/wrist. It takes a few days to get used to using a pen instead of
a mouse, but I swear that it's one of the best investments I've ever
made in the ergonomics department.
Runners up are my ergonomic keyboard and pilot chair.
If you have to rest your elbow on a desk, I've found the microbead
cushions to be very helpful under the elbow.
Lastly, raising my monitors up higher has helped with the neck (so I'm
not looking down for 8 hours a day).
Hope you get better soon!
Cheers,
M
Kevin Vance
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