> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far Oracle
> themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of the
> client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on both
> WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working on
> catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find dependent library
> files.
> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which gets
> installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
> -DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

> Any hints welcome!

> Cheers,
> Christian

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> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of machines with
> it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have attempted
> offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the chance to test
> it I will.

> Reagards,
> Ed

> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christian.b.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hi all,

>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far Oracle
>> themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of the
>> client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on both
>> WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working on
>> catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find dependent
>> library files.
>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which gets
>> installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>> Any hints welcome!

>> Cheers,
>> Christian

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>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the Offline
> Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

> regards,
> Ram Chaitanya

> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwardahigg...@gmail.com>wrote:

>> Hi Christian,

>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of machines
>> with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have attempted
>> offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the chance to test
>> it I will.

>> Reagards,
>> Ed

>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christian.b.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Hi all,

>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far Oracle
>>> themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of the
>>> client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on both
>>> WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working on
>>> catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find dependent
>>> library files.
>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which gets
>>> installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>> Any hints welcome!

>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian

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> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality" according to
> this bug:

> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set of
> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
> access
> the physical webcat.

> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

> Cheers,
> Christian

> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramchaita...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hi Christian,
>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder for
>> migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to move
>> certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats). Where do
>> you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the Offline
>> Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>> regards,
>> Ram Chaitanya

>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwardahigg...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:

>>> Hi Christian,

>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of machines
>>> with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have attempted
>>> offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the chance to test
>>> it I will.

>>> Reagards,
>>> Ed

>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christian.b.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Hi all,

>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of the
>>>> client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on both
>>>> WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working on
>>>> catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find dependent
>>>> library files.
>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which gets
>>>> installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>> To enable offline mode:
>>>> C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *-DnoJNI=false* -jar
>>>> startup.jar

>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christian

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> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality" according to
> this bug:

> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set of
> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
> access
> the physical webcat.

> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

> Cheers,
> Christian

> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramchaita...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hi Christian,
>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder for
>> migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to move
>> certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats). Where do
>> you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the Offline
>> Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>> regards,
>> Ram Chaitanya

>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwardahigg...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:

>>> Hi Christian,

>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of machines
>>> with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have attempted
>>> offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the chance to test
>>> it I will.

>>> Reagards,
>>> Ed

>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christian.b.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Hi all,

>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of the
>>>> client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on both
>>>> WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working on
>>>> catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find dependent
>>>> library files.
>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which gets
>>>> installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>> To enable offline mode:
>>>> C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *-DnoJNI=false* -jar
>>>> startup.jar

>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christian

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>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6 on
> your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

> Cheers,
> Ram Chaitanya

> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <
> christian.b.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hi Ram,

>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality" according
>> to this bug:

>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set of
>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
>> access
>> the physical webcat.

>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
>> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>> Cheers,
>> Christian

>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramchaita...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Hi Christian,
>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder for
>>> migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to move
>>> certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats). Where do
>>> you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the Offline
>>> Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>> regards,
>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <
>>> edwardahigg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of machines
>>>> with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have attempted
>>>> offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the chance to test
>>>> it I will.

>>>> Reagards,
>>>> Ed

>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christian.b.b...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of the
>>>>> client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on both
>>>>> WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working on
>>>>> catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find dependent
>>>>> library files.
>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which gets
>>>>> installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>> To enable offline mode:
>>>>> C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *-DnoJNI=false* -jar
>>>>> startup.jar

>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Christian

> Good morning,

> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
> manager without full installation.

> Cheers,
> Christian

> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:

>> Hi Christian,
>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing the
>> DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6 on
>> your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
>> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>> Cheers,
>> Ram Chaitanya

>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>> > wrote:

>>> Hi Ram,

>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality" according
>>> to this bug:

>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set
>>> of
>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
>>> access
>>> the physical webcat.

>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
>>> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian

>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com <javascript:>
>>> > wrote:

>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder
>>>> for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to
>>>> move certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats).
>>>> Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>> regards,
>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwarda...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of machines
>>>>> with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have attempted
>>>>> offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the chance to test
>>>>> it I will.

>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>> Ed

>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of
>>>>>> the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on
>>>>>> both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working
>>>>>> on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find dependent
>>>>>> library files.
>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which
>>>>>> gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>> To enable offline mode:
>>>>>> C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *-DnoJNI=false*-jar startup.jar

>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Christian

> I'm facing the same issue at my client right now. OBIEE 11.1.1.6.4 is
> installed on Linux and I need to open the presentation catalog in offline
> mode. But there is no GUI installed on the Linux server, and I guess it is
> not possible to open the catalog manager from command line (e.g. Putty).
> Although, I've read something about using Putty in combination with XMing
> for this.
> Do you know any other solution for this?

> Thanks!

> Stijn

> Op vrijdag 8 juni 2012 08:57:54 UTC+2 schreef Christian Berg het volgende:

>> Good morning,

>> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
>> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
>> manager without full installation.

>> Cheers,
>> Christian

>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Hi Christian,
>>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing the
>>> DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6 on
>>> your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
>>> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>>> Cheers,
>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>> Hi Ram,

>>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality" according
>>>> to this bug:

>>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set
>>>> of
>>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
>>>> access
>>>> the physical webcat.

>>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
>>>> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christian

>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder
>>>>> for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to
>>>>> move certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats).
>>>>> Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwarda...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of machines
>>>>>> with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have attempted
>>>>>> offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the chance to test
>>>>>> it I will.

>>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>>> Ed

>>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of
>>>>>>> the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on
>>>>>>> both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working
>>>>>>> on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\**sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find
>>>>>>> dependent library files.
>>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which
>>>>>>> gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Christian

> No, there is none. The issue is still open and unless anyone knows what
> will happen to the client tools in 11.1.1.7, we're stuck for the moment.

> Cheers!

> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, stijngabriels <stijng...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:

>> Hi Christian,

>> I'm facing the same issue at my client right now. OBIEE 11.1.1.6.4 is
>> installed on Linux and I need to open the presentation catalog in offline
>> mode. But there is no GUI installed on the Linux server, and I guess it is
>> not possible to open the catalog manager from command line (e.g. Putty).
>> Although, I've read something about using Putty in combination with XMing
>> for this.
>> Do you know any other solution for this?

>> Thanks!

>> Stijn

>> Op vrijdag 8 juni 2012 08:57:54 UTC+2 schreef Christian Berg het volgende:

>>> Good morning,

>>> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
>>> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
>>> manager without full installation.

>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian

>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>  Hi Christian,
>>>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing the
>>>> DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>>>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>>>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>>>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>>>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6
>>>> on your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
>>>> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>>>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> Hi Ram,

>>>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality"
>>>>> according to this bug:

>>>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set
>>>>> of
>>>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
>>>>> access
>>>>> the physical webcat.

>>>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
>>>>> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Christian

>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder
>>>>>> for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to
>>>>>> move certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats).
>>>>>> Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwarda...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of
>>>>>>> machines with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have
>>>>>>> attempted offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the
>>>>>>> chance to test it I will.

>>>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>>>> Ed

>>>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of
>>>>>>>> the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on
>>>>>>>> both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working
>>>>>>>> on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\**sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find
>>>>>>>> dependent library files.
>>>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which
>>>>>>>> gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>>>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Christian

> I'm facing the same issue at my client right now. OBIEE 11.1.1.6.4 is
> installed on Linux and I need to open the presentation catalog in offline
> mode. But there is no GUI installed on the Linux server, and I guess it is
> not possible to open the catalog manager from command line (e.g. Putty).
> Although, I've read something about using Putty in combination with XMing
> for this.
> Do you know any other solution for this?

> Thanks!

> Stijn

> Op vrijdag 8 juni 2012 08:57:54 UTC+2 schreef Christian Berg het volgende:

>> Good morning,

>> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
>> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
>> manager without full installation.

>> Cheers,
>> Christian

>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Hi Christian,
>>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing the
>>> DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6 on
>>> your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
>>> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>>> Cheers,
>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>> Hi Ram,

>>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality" according
>>>> to this bug:

>>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set
>>>> of
>>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
>>>> access
>>>> the physical webcat.

>>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
>>>> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christian

>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder
>>>>> for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to
>>>>> move certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats).
>>>>> Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwarda...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of machines
>>>>>> with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have attempted
>>>>>> offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the chance to test
>>>>>> it I will.

>>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>>> Ed

>>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of
>>>>>>> the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on
>>>>>>> both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working
>>>>>>> on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\**sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find
>>>>>>> dependent library files.
>>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which
>>>>>>> gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Christian

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> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, stijngabriels <stijngabri...@gmail.com>wrote:

>> Hi Christian,

>> I'm facing the same issue at my client right now. OBIEE 11.1.1.6.4 is
>> installed on Linux and I need to open the presentation catalog in offline
>> mode. But there is no GUI installed on the Linux server, and I guess it is
>> not possible to open the catalog manager from command line (e.g. Putty).
>> Although, I've read something about using Putty in combination with XMing
>> for this.
>> Do you know any other solution for this?

>> Thanks!

>> Stijn

>> Op vrijdag 8 juni 2012 08:57:54 UTC+2 schreef Christian Berg het volgende:

>>> Good morning,

>>> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
>>> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
>>> manager without full installation.

>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian

>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>  Hi Christian,
>>>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing the
>>>> DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>>>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>>>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>>>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>>>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6
>>>> on your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
>>>> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>>>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> Hi Ram,

>>>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality"
>>>>> according to this bug:

>>>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set
>>>>> of
>>>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
>>>>> access
>>>>> the physical webcat.

>>>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
>>>>> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Christian

>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder
>>>>>> for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to
>>>>>> move certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats).
>>>>>> Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwarda...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of
>>>>>>> machines with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have
>>>>>>> attempted offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the
>>>>>>> chance to test it I will.

>>>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>>>> Ed

>>>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of
>>>>>>>> the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on
>>>>>>>> both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working
>>>>>>>> on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\**sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find
>>>>>>>> dependent library files.
>>>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which
>>>>>>>> gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>>>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Christian

>>>>>>>  --
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> Stijn,

> You should be able to open the catalog offline by running ./runcat.sh from
> the catalogmanager folder (OracleBIPresentationServices). Use a tool that
> has the XServer such as MobaXTerm. Alternatively use VNC. VNC session needs
> to use a SSH session to connect through, as tunneling the VNC client to the
> VNC server.

> I hope it works for you.

> Regards,
> Veronica

> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM, stijngabriels <stijngabri...@gmail.com>wrote:

>> Hi Christian,

>> I'm facing the same issue at my client right now. OBIEE 11.1.1.6.4 is
>> installed on Linux and I need to open the presentation catalog in offline
>> mode. But there is no GUI installed on the Linux server, and I guess it is
>> not possible to open the catalog manager from command line (e.g. Putty).
>> Although, I've read something about using Putty in combination with XMing
>> for this.
>> Do you know any other solution for this?

>> Thanks!

>> Stijn

>> Op vrijdag 8 juni 2012 08:57:54 UTC+2 schreef Christian Berg het volgende:

>>> Good morning,

>>> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
>>> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
>>> manager without full installation.

>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian

>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing the
>>>> DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>>>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>>>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>>>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>>>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6
>>>> on your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
>>>> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>>>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> Hi Ram,

>>>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality"
>>>>> according to this bug:

>>>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set
>>>>> of
>>>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
>>>>> access
>>>>> the physical webcat.

>>>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
>>>>> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Christian

>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder
>>>>>> for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to
>>>>>> move certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats).
>>>>>> Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwarda...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of
>>>>>>> machines with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have
>>>>>>> attempted offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the
>>>>>>> chance to test it I will.

>>>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>>>> Ed

>>>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of
>>>>>>>> the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on
>>>>>>>> both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working
>>>>>>>> on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\**sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find
>>>>>>>> dependent library files.
>>>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which
>>>>>>>> gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>>>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Christian

> Stijn,

> You should be able to open the catalog offline by running ./runcat.sh from
> the catalogmanager folder (OracleBIPresentationServices). Use a tool that
> has the XServer such as MobaXTerm. Alternatively use VNC. VNC session needs
> to use a SSH session to connect through, as tunneling the VNC client to the
> VNC server.

> I hope it works for you.

> Regards,
> Veronica

> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM, stijngabriels <stijngabri...@gmail.com>wrote:

>> Hi Christian,

>> I'm facing the same issue at my client right now. OBIEE 11.1.1.6.4 is
>> installed on Linux and I need to open the presentation catalog in offline
>> mode. But there is no GUI installed on the Linux server, and I guess it is
>> not possible to open the catalog manager from command line (e.g. Putty).
>> Although, I've read something about using Putty in combination with XMing
>> for this.
>> Do you know any other solution for this?

>> Thanks!

>> Stijn

>> Op vrijdag 8 juni 2012 08:57:54 UTC+2 schreef Christian Berg het volgende:

>>> Good morning,

>>> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
>>> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
>>> manager without full installation.

>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian

>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing the
>>>> DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>>>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>>>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>>>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>>>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6
>>>> on your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
>>>> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>>>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> Hi Ram,

>>>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality"
>>>>> according to this bug:

>>>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a set
>>>>> of
>>>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able to
>>>>> access
>>>>> the physical webcat.

>>>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
>>>>> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Christian

>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder
>>>>>> for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to
>>>>>> move certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats).
>>>>>> Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <edwarda...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of
>>>>>>> machines with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have
>>>>>>> attempted offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the
>>>>>>> chance to test it I will.

>>>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>>>> Ed

>>>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of
>>>>>>>> the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on
>>>>>>>> both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working
>>>>>>>> on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\**sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find
>>>>>>>> dependent library files.
>>>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which
>>>>>>>> gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>>>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Christian

>>>>>>>  -

> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Veronica Dumitriu <ver...@gmail.com>wrote:

>> Stijn,

>> You should be able to open the catalog offline by running ./runcat.sh
>> from the catalogmanager folder (OracleBIPresentationServices). Use a tool
>> that has the XServer such as MobaXTerm. Alternatively use VNC. VNC session
>> needs to use a SSH session to connect through, as tunneling the VNC client
>> to the VNC server.

>> I hope it works for you.

>> Regards,
>> Veronica

>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM, stijngabriels <stijngabri...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>> Hi Christian,

>>> I'm facing the same issue at my client right now. OBIEE 11.1.1.6.4 is
>>> installed on Linux and I need to open the presentation catalog in offline
>>> mode. But there is no GUI installed on the Linux server, and I guess it is
>>> not possible to open the catalog manager from command line (e.g. Putty).
>>> Although, I've read something about using Putty in combination with XMing
>>> for this.
>>> Do you know any other solution for this?

>>> Thanks!

>>> Stijn

>>> Op vrijdag 8 juni 2012 08:57:54 UTC+2 schreef Christian Berg het
>>> volgende:

>>>> Good morning,

>>>> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
>>>> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
>>>> manager without full installation.

>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christian

>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing
>>>>> the DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>>>>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>>>>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>>>>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>>>>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>>>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6
>>>>> on your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
>>>>> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>>>>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <
>>>>> christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Ram,

>>>>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>>>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>>>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality"
>>>>>> according to this bug:

>>>>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>>>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>>>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>>>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a
>>>>>> set of
>>>>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able
>>>>>> to access
>>>>>> the physical webcat.

>>>>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>>>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that they
>>>>>> haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>>>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Christian

>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog Buillder
>>>>>>> for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we need to
>>>>>>> move certain metadata elements across instances(eg. _datatype_formats).
>>>>>>> Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a role in 11g?

>>>>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <
>>>>>>> edwarda...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of
>>>>>>>> machines with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have
>>>>>>>> attempted offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the
>>>>>>>> chance to test it I will.

>>>>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>>>>> Ed

>>>>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part of
>>>>>>>>> the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools on
>>>>>>>>> both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists: working
>>>>>>>>> on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\**sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find
>>>>>>>>> dependent library files.
>>>>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which
>>>>>>>>> gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe *
>>>>>>>>> -DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Christian

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> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Christian Berg <christian.b.b...@gmail.com
> > wrote:

>> The problem is in the type of install. If you use the client-install
>> package it won't work.

>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Veronica Dumitriu <ver...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>> Stijn,

>>> You should be able to open the catalog offline by running ./runcat.sh
>>> from the catalogmanager folder (OracleBIPresentationServices). Use a tool
>>> that has the XServer such as MobaXTerm. Alternatively use VNC. VNC session
>>> needs to use a SSH session to connect through, as tunneling the VNC client
>>> to the VNC server.

>>> I hope it works for you.

>>> Regards,
>>> Veronica

>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM, stijngabriels <stijngabri...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>> I'm facing the same issue at my client right now. OBIEE 11.1.1.6.4 is
>>>> installed on Linux and I need to open the presentation catalog in offline
>>>> mode. But there is no GUI installed on the Linux server, and I guess it is
>>>> not possible to open the catalog manager from command line (e.g. Putty).
>>>> Although, I've read something about using Putty in combination with XMing
>>>> for this.
>>>> Do you know any other solution for this?

>>>> Thanks!

>>>> Stijn

>>>> Op vrijdag 8 juni 2012 08:57:54 UTC+2 schreef Christian Berg het
>>>> volgende:

>>>>> Good morning,

>>>>> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
>>>>> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
>>>>> manager without full installation.

>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Christian

>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing
>>>>>> the DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>>>>>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>>>>>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>>>>>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>>>>>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>>>>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full 11.1.1.6
>>>>>> on your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the same
>>>>>> workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>>>>>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <
>>>>>> christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi Ram,

>>>>>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>>>>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>>>>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality"
>>>>>>> according to this bug:

>>>>>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>>>>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>>>>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>>>>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a
>>>>>>> set of
>>>>>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able
>>>>>>> to access
>>>>>>> the physical webcat.

>>>>>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>>>>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that
>>>>>>> they haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>>>>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Christian

>>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog
>>>>>>>> Buillder for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we
>>>>>>>> need to move certain metadata elements across instances(eg.
>>>>>>>> _datatype_formats). Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a
>>>>>>>> role in 11g?

>>>>>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>>>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <
>>>>>>>> edwarda...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of
>>>>>>>>> machines with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have
>>>>>>>>> attempted offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the
>>>>>>>>> chance to test it I will.

>>>>>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>>>>>> Ed

>>>>>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so far
>>>>>>>>>> Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part
>>>>>>>>>> of the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools
>>>>>>>>>> on both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists:
>>>>>>>>>> working on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\**sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find
>>>>>>>>>> dependent library files.
>>>>>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut which
>>>>>>>>>> gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline mode.

>>>>>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Christian

> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Veronica Dumitriu <ver...@gmail.com>wrote:

>> Stijn's issue was not able to run the catalog manager on the Linux side
>> so I believe this was a full installation?

>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Christian Berg <
>> christian.b.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> The problem is in the type of install. If you use the client-install
>>> package it won't work.

>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Veronica Dumitriu <ver...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>> Stijn,

>>>> You should be able to open the catalog offline by running ./runcat.sh
>>>> from the catalogmanager folder (OracleBIPresentationServices). Use a tool
>>>> that has the XServer such as MobaXTerm. Alternatively use VNC. VNC session
>>>> needs to use a SSH session to connect through, as tunneling the VNC client
>>>> to the VNC server.

>>>> I hope it works for you.

>>>> Regards,
>>>> Veronica

>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM, stijngabriels <stijngabri...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>> I'm facing the same issue at my client right now. OBIEE 11.1.1.6.4 is
>>>>> installed on Linux and I need to open the presentation catalog in offline
>>>>> mode. But there is no GUI installed on the Linux server, and I guess it is
>>>>> not possible to open the catalog manager from command line (e.g. Putty).
>>>>> Although, I've read something about using Putty in combination with XMing
>>>>> for this.
>>>>> Do you know any other solution for this?

>>>>> Thanks!

>>>>> Stijn

>>>>> Op vrijdag 8 juni 2012 08:57:54 UTC+2 schreef Christian Berg het
>>>>> volgende:

>>>>>> Good morning,

>>>>>> As of today, work on this has been concluded with Oracle treating the
>>>>>> bugs/ERs which came out of this. Final statement is: no offline catalog
>>>>>> manager without full installation.

>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Christian

>>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>  I tried opening the catalog manager in offline mode(after changing
>>>>>>> the DNoJNI param as u advised), ran into the same issues as you mentioned.
>>>>>>> Checked to see how 11.1.1.3 Catalog Manager worked, edited runcat.cmd, used
>>>>>>> it to start the 11.1.1.6 Catalog Manager(with Offline mode enabled).
>>>>>>> However when i try to open the catalog offline I still run into the
>>>>>>> same sawjniapi3r error. Guess we're stuck..

>>>>>>>  The only way to get this working might be to install a full
>>>>>>> 11.1.1.6 on your client machines then disable the unnecessary services, the
>>>>>>> same workaround we used when 11.1.1.3 admin tool had no separate client
>>>>>>> installer.. Do let us know if you figure a way out.

>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Christian Berg <
>>>>>>> christia...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Hi Ram,

>>>>>>>> my main point is the fact that I am no fan of giving an
>>>>>>>> "open-heart-surgery-only" tool to each and every developer.

>>>>>>>> I get that Oracle now states this as "designed functionality"
>>>>>>>> according to this bug:

>>>>>>>> Bug 10210679 - CATALOG MANAGER IN CLIENT INSTALL DEPENDS ON
>>>>>>>> INSTANCECONFIG.XML

>>>>>>>> User shouldn't run Catalog Manager in offline mode in a client-only
>>>>>>>> installation. Catalog Manager offline mode internally depends on a
>>>>>>>> set of
>>>>>>>> BIPS C++ libraries for catalog operations. Also it needs to be able
>>>>>>>> to access
>>>>>>>> the physical webcat.

>>>>>>>> Suggest to close the bug as 'function as designed'.

>>>>>>>> But still, that doesn't tell me why it's not possible. Just that
>>>>>>>> they haven't extended that to work from machines which were installed
>>>>>>>> "client-only". And yes, I'm still hoping for a solution or a hack.

>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Christian

>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM, RamC <ramcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>>>  Just Curious. We've learnt to live with the Online Catalog
>>>>>>>>> Buillder for migrations. We take to copying metadata file manually when we
>>>>>>>>> need to move certain metadata elements across instances(eg.
>>>>>>>>> _datatype_formats). Where do you see the Offline Catalog Manager playing a
>>>>>>>>> role in 11g?

>>>>>>>>>  We're currently on 11.1.1.5, testing 11.1.1.6. I could test the
>>>>>>>>> Offline Catalog Management on 11.1.1.6. and get back. Thanks.

>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ram Chaitanya

>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, edward higgins <
>>>>>>>>> edwarda...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Hi Christian,

>>>>>>>>>> I haven't installed 11.1.1.6 myself, but we have a number of
>>>>>>>>>> machines with it, so I'll have an ask around, I suspect they may not have
>>>>>>>>>> attempted offline catalog work yet so haven't found it.  If I get the
>>>>>>>>>> chance to test it I will.

>>>>>>>>>> Reagards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ed

>>>>>>>>>> On 23 May 2012 20:52, Christian Berg <christia...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>>>>>> apologies for violating the "no OTN questions" myself, but so
>>>>>>>>>>> far Oracle themselves have proved completely useless on this one.

>>>>>>>>>>> As you are aware, with 11.1.1.6 the Catalog Manager is now part
>>>>>>>>>>> of the client installation package. Alas, when installing the client tools
>>>>>>>>>>> on both WinXP 32bit and Win7 64bit respecitvely, a major issue exists:
>>>>>>>>>>> working on catalogs in offline mode is impossible due to an error:

>>>>>>>>>>> 32bit: \bifoundation\web\bin\**sawjniapi3r.dll: Can't find
>>>>>>>>>>> dependent library files.
>>>>>>>>>>> 64bit: no sawjniapi643r.dll in java-library.path

>>>>>>>>>>> Also, dunny enough you actually have to modify the shortcut
>>>>>>>>>>> which gets installed in order to be able to use catalog manager in offline
>>>>>>>>>>> mode.

>>>>>>>>>>> As installed: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=true* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>>>>> To enable offline mode: C:\Oracle\OBIEE11.1.1.6.**Client\jre\bin\javaw.exe
>>>>>>>>>>> *-DnoJNI=false* -jar startup.jar

>>>>>>>>>>> Any hints welcome!

>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Christian

>>>>>>>>>>  --
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