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Devious distribution of PSA anti-tax cut propaganda

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Acid

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Aug 29, 2005, 4:50:54 AM8/29/05
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Congratulations to the guys at Sir Humphreys for exposing this. PSA crap is
being distributed by Government employees:
http://sirhumphreys.blogspot.com/2005/08/psa-anti-tax-cut-propaganda.html

The State Services Commision has also been alerted to this shameless
practice:
http://sirhumphreys.blogspot.com/2005/08/more-on-psa-propaganda.html

Of all places to do it they distribute it at public health facilities.

The socialists are getting really desperate when they have to try this sort
of shit to try to brainwash the public.


George.com

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Aug 29, 2005, 5:11:34 AM8/29/05
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"Acid" <neo...@theright123.co.nz> wrote in message
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go to the PSA website and do your own investigations rather than rely on sfb
like Humph. Fuck me, there is a response to Nationals tax cuts from ACT, NZ
First, Progressives, Greens, UFO. There is also an analysis of the public
sector by economist Peter Harris. In terms of brainwashing the public, what
the heck does Brash try to do everynight on the news, brain wahs the public
and buy their vote. Gosh, I guess you would call it an election.

rob


Acid

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Aug 29, 2005, 5:14:43 AM8/29/05
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"George.com" <rob...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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http://www.ssc.govt.nz/display/document.asp?docid=4663&pageno=2#P22_1489

Read that page.

Hardly appropriate to hand out that rubbish at public health facilites....

George.com

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Aug 29, 2005, 5:23:40 AM8/29/05
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"Acid" <neo...@theright123.co.nz> wrote in message
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I read it. Is Sir Bumph worried about what the PSA is putting out or someone
handing it out in their workplace?

rob


Acid

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Aug 29, 2005, 5:36:36 AM8/29/05
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"George.com" <rob...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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From the SSC website:

It is inappropriate for agency premises or other resources to be used for
'electioneering'

That very sounds clear to me.


antarct...@gmail.com

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Aug 29, 2005, 6:02:41 AM8/29/05
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George,

Why don't you respond to the issue rather than making juvenile
misspelling attacks. A union member using her position at a public
hospital to hand out blatant propaganda as if it was somehow sanctioned
by her place of work is completely inappropriate.

AL
http://sirhumphreys.blogspot.com

Rob J

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Aug 29, 2005, 6:22:46 AM8/29/05
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:50:54 +1200, "Acid" <neo...@theright123.co.nz>
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Hospitals are not government departments, any more than universities
are. They are under the control of district health boards.

peterwn

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Aug 29, 2005, 6:26:20 AM8/29/05
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And look what happened to a young Labour Party member when he tried to
hand out non-sanctioned leaflets at a Labour Party Conference some
years ago. He got 'trespassed out' and thenlater in the day got thrown
into the dungeons at the cop shop when he tried to attend Helen's
keynote speech for which he had a personal invitation.

BrentC

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Aug 29, 2005, 6:48:27 AM8/29/05
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Keh - that gets "The Dick of the Week" award

Rob J

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Aug 29, 2005, 6:55:40 AM8/29/05
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On 29 Aug 2005 03:26:20 -0700, "peterwn" <pet...@paradise.net.nz>
wrote:

That would be like Brownlee trying to throw some guy down the stairs
at a National Party conference, would it?

antarct...@gmail.com

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Aug 29, 2005, 7:21:35 AM8/29/05
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The PSA acknowledges the SSC guidelines on political neutrality - in
theory:
http://www.psa.org.nz/election/election2005political_neutrality.asp

The SSC regulates all public sector employers and employees, and the
DHB's come under the Ministry of Health:
http://www.moh.govt.nz/districthealthboards

"DHBs have very wide responsibilities for publicly funded health and
disability services, including purchasing of services. They are bodies
corporate owned by the Crown and are required to operate in a
transparent manner."
http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/wpg_index/About-DHBs#5_0

Universities have their own Act's of Parliament to maintain
independence from the Govement.

I can see why no-one bothers with the tone on newsgroups anymore.

George.com

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Aug 29, 2005, 7:25:59 AM8/29/05
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<antarct...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I guess if this dude was really worried he would have complained to the
manager of this public service institution and the manager would then have
considered whether it was a disciplinary action. How or when the worker was
handing out election information I am not sure. If it is a breach of state
sector protocols I guess it is open for disciplinary action.

What he does go on at some length however is the PSA. I have suggested
people go and have a look at the PSA website. A seperate issue to
peoplehanding out election information in their workplace.

rob

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Aug 29, 2005, 4:01:36 PM8/29/05
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SO if these pamphlets were actually sanctioned by someone in the PSA
(in addition to having their members hand them out in hospitals), then
that someone should be removed from their position fairly quickly.

BrentC

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Aug 29, 2005, 4:09:56 PM8/29/05
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He who pays the money has the power.


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BrentC

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