>> >On Sep 3, 2:45 pm, slay...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:49:56 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2...@hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:

>> >> >JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >> >>On Sep 3, 9:58 am, slay...@hotmail.co wrote:
>> >> >>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 04:05:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:

>> >> >>> >On Sunday, 2 September 2012 09:30:24 UTC+12, (unknown) wrote:
>> >> >>> >> ...engorging...and now...

>> >> >>> >> ...blatantly forging.

>> >> >>> >> Around 20 Chinese manufacturers blatantly tried to pass off their

>> >> >>> >> infant formula as New Zealand-made at a major Mother and Baby expo in

>> >> >>> >> Shanghai recently.

>> >> >>> >> Companies promoted infant formula as "Made in New Zealand" and even

>> >> >>> >> included the Trade and Enterprise fern logo which is a registered

>> >> >>> >> trademark in China.

>> >> >>> >> One used a picture of the Prime Minister - comically mispelling his

>> >> >>> >> name as "Jhon Key" - next to a quote "I Love abid".

>> >> >>> >>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=1...

>> >> >>> >> "Having the Trade and Enterprise fern is all very well, but all the

>> >> >>> >> (Chinese) copies have it too."

>> >> >>> >Chinese manufacturers making baby formula

>> >> >>> with conterfeit labelling

>> >> >>> >for internal consumption has exactly *what* to do with free trade?

>> >> >>> Free Trade implies **good faith** between partner-signatories. The
>> >> >>> Shanghai expo is held under Chinese government auspices. Ergo, the
>> >> >>> Chinese government is - however indirectly - implicated in the scam.
>> >> >>> Ruthless, amoral technocrats to a man.

>> >> >>> In any case, counterfeiting is a Chinese way of life [1], a truth now
>> >> >>> haplessly acknowledged by John Key himself.

>> >> >>> Worse, this incident is an unequivocal insult to the Prime Minister of

>> >> >>Oh dear. And the yellow peril is making unequivocal insults to
>> >> >>countless others around the world. Get over it and make some money out
>> >> >>of their consumers who lap it up, I say.

>> >> >>> New Zealand whose only response is to the effect that 'there is not
>> >> >>> much New Zealand can do about it.'

>> >> >>Of course. What else would you do - cut off your nose to spite your
>> >> >>face?

>> >> >>> The jig is up and China is in the driving seat.

>> >> >>> All else is self-deluding fantasy, and you know it.

>> >> >>All the above is irrelevant WRT the FTA. These counterfeiters would be
>> >> >>doing this whether there is an FTA or not, as has always been the
>> >> >>case. Just ask Apple, Callaway or any brand from the USA.

>> >> >>> BTW - shouldn't be too long before "Crafar Farm" Milk cartons bearing
>> >> >>> images of a goofily smirking "100% Pure Jhon Key" (sic) start
>> >> >>> appearing in Chinese supermarkets. But will they be the real Crafar
>> >> >>> deal? Who can say?

>> >> >>> [1] It's called "pragmatism" and John Key will gladly explain the
>> >> >>> term to you because he does it by the truckload - but the Chinese do
>> >> >>> it rather more successfully.

>> >> >>The big money for NZ in China is commodities not brands. The FTA
>> >> >>allows NZ to ship as much fibre, protein and cholesterol as it can to
>> >> >>meet China's ever increasing demand - a terrific win for the NZ
>> >> >>economy.

>> >> >And we get what in return . Crooked chinese immigrants??

>> >> Yup

>> >Can you please detail these "Crooked chinese immigrants" have we
>> >acquired as a result of the FTA?

>> Along with...

>Ah, but not as a consequence of, then.