Census Day

[Patrick FitzGerald]

Happy form filing everybody...........

excluding Luddite Libertarians who are burning their census forms.



Patrick

[Patrick FitzGerald]

I have now filled out my census forms on line.

It is such an easy progress but it would obviously be beyond the
mental ability of Dinosaur Libertarians to accomplish.


Patrick

[Liberty]

On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:44:34 +1300, Patrick FitzGerald <a...@b.com> wrote:

>
>I have now filled out my census forms on line.

A right little conformist. The state says jump and you jump.
Patricks utopia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=lwoSFQb5HVk&NR=1

[Pooh]

"Patrick FitzGerald" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
news:fl1aj8t8s46fo62ai...@4ax.com...

Who showed you how to do it Pratsie? You've displayed a lack of on-line
skills in here so you must have needed someones help.

Pooh

[Patrick FitzGerald]

On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:26:53 +1300, Liberty <libe...@live.com>
wrote:


>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=lwoSFQb5HVk&NR=1
>

Thanks Liberty for your video reference demonstrating how a
Libertarian government would run NZ if it got a chance.


Patrick

[Liberty]

You would have to be a bit of dickhead to come to that conclusion.

[Patrick FitzGerald]

On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:00:11 +1300, Liberty <libe...@live.com>
wrote:

>
>You would have to be a bit of dickhead to come to that conclusion.

Not so Liberty - that video revealed the ambitions of Libertarians


Patrick

[Liberty]

The philosophy of libertarianism is not your strong point Patrick.

[geopelia]

"Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote in message
news:kh36kl$oid$1...@dont-email.me...

If some of us don't use the paper forms the government might stop giving
them to us,
and then where will people without computers be? I've filled in the paper
one.

[Enkidu]

I'm tempted to say "up to date", Geo! People these days are used to
filling in forms online, so I don't think that most people would miss
the paper forms. In any case the Govt won't stop doing the forms while
they are getting a significant number back.

Cheers,

Cliff

[misanthropic_curmudgeon]

On Mar 5, 12:00 pm, Liberty <libert...@live.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:30:40 +1300, Patrick FitzGerald <a...@b.com> wrote:

> >On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:26:53 +1300, Liberty <libert...@live.com>

> >wrote:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=lwoSFQb5HVk&NR=1
>
> >Thanks Liberty for your video reference demonstrating how a
> >Libertarian government would run NZ if it got a chance.
>
> >Patrick
>
> You would have to be a bit of dickhead  to come to that conclusion.

Well, ....

[colp]

On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:51:51 PM UTC+13, liberty wrote:

> The philosophy of libertarianism is not your strong point Patrick.

Would you care to tell us your view?

[richard...@libertarianz.org.nz]

On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 9:05:14 AM UTC+13, Patrick FitzGerald wrote:
> Happy form filing everybody...........
>
>
>
> excluding Luddite Libertarians who are burning their census forms.

No, Patrick, I'm taking heed of a sensible directive - a total fire ban in Wairarapa. Once the ban has been lifted and temperatures cool I will put the census form to good use by lighting the kindling in my log burner with it.

[richard...@libertarianz.org.nz]

On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 9:44:34 AM UTC+13, Patrick FitzGerald wrote:

> It is such an easy progress but it would obviously be beyond the
>
> mental ability of Dinosaur Libertarians to accomplish.

Patrick, you're just being silly now. Run along and play with your Tonka toys.

[richard...@libertarianz.org.nz]

On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 12:43:51 PM UTC+13, Patrick FitzGerald wrote:

> Not so Liberty - that video revealed the ambitions of Libertarians

Which are.... ?

[geopelia]

"Enkidu" <enk...@cliffp.com.cliffp.com> wrote in message
news:5136...@news.actrix.co.nz...

I prefer a paper form. Much easier than a computer and less likely to make a
mistake.

[Allistar]

Patrick FitzGerald wrote:

>
>
> Happy form filing everybody...........
>
> excluding Luddite Libertarians who are burning their census forms.

Who here does not like being labelled an "NZ European" and instead chose
"Other" and wrote "New Zealander"?

I've always done that.

Where was "Jedi" in the list of religions?

But, as always, I chose "none".
--
A.

[Liberty]

On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:38:15 +1300, A...@any.where.ver wrote:

>On , , Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:51:51 +1300, Re: NZ Census on line, Liberty

>It isn't yours either, you dullard.

A bit rich coming from some creep. Who doesn't know the difference between his
arse and his elbow.

[greybeard]

"Allistar" <m...@hiddenaddress.com> wrote in message
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Not me. I gave up on that several censeless ago.
Stats NZ change all such responses to NZ European. You must conform to
their preconceived view of what you are. Interestingly you can be of
Samoan, Tongan
Maori........( insert your pinprick island on the map)......... as a
separate "ethnic" identity
rather than Polynesian which is the realistic ethnic designation for all
of these.

I supply a new answer to my own ethnic origins, which I'm not going to
reveal here.
For the previous two censeless I've been contacted to check my response.
Waiting
to see if that happens again. ;-)

Jedi is a dead religion. They've all converted to Hobbittism.
(Try to keep up)

[Allistar]

I was born on a Pacific island (the one we call "North"), so am I not a
Pacific Islander?

> Jedi is a dead religion. They've all converted to Hobbittism.
> (Try to keep up)

I'm just please dthey haven't listed "atheism" as a religion. That's like
saying that baldness is a hair colour.
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A.

[Titus G]

greybeard wrote:
> "Allistar" wrote

>> Who here does not like being labelled an "NZ European" and instead
>> chose "Other" and wrote "New Zealander"?

Question 9 asks which country you were born in. One of the options is New
Zealand.
Question 11 asks which ethnic group you belong to.
It is not difficult.

> Not me. I gave up on that several censeless ago.
> Stats NZ change all such responses to NZ European. You must conform to
> their preconceived view of what you are. Interestingly you can be of
> Samoan, Tongan
> Maori........( insert your pinprick island on the map)......... as a
> separate "ethnic" identity
> rather than Polynesian which is the realistic ethnic designation for
> all of these.

Obviously with the information from questions 9 and 10, population trends
based on ethnic groups can be isolated for NZ born and immigrants. We know
they all come from Polynesia. They want to know from where in Polynesia they
are mainly coming from. They also want to know what the ethnic distribution
over all Nu Zillen.

[Titus G]

Allistar wrote:
> I was born on a Pacific island (the one we call "North"), so am I not
> a Pacific Islander?

Question 9 asks which country you were born in. One of the options is New
Zealand.
Question 11 asks which ethnic group you belong to.

Most of Nu Zillen's population would be Pacific Islanders so it would be a
stupid thing to spend millions of dollars asking people if they were or not.
Why not ask all these Pacific Islanders to be more specific?
It is not difficult.

[Allistar]

Titus G wrote:

> Allistar wrote:
>> I was born on a Pacific island (the one we call "North"), so am I not
>> a Pacific Islander?
>
> Question 9 asks which country you were born in. One of the options is New
> Zealand.
> Question 11 asks which ethnic group you belong to.
>
> Most of Nu Zillen's

Where?

> population would be Pacific Islanders so it would be a
> stupid thing to spend millions of dollars asking people if they were or
> not.

I agree that a census ia a waste of money and an infringement on our
freedoms.

> Why not ask all these Pacific Islanders to be more specific?
> It is not difficult.

Frankly my ethnicity is none of the governments business. Neither is how
much I earn or how many kids I have.
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A.

[Roger Dewhurst]

On Mar 8, 6:07 pm, "Titus G" <znotr...@nowhereelse.com> wrote:
> greybeard wrote:
> > "Allistar"  wrote
> >> Who here does not like being labelled an "NZ European" and instead
> >> chose "Other" and wrote "New Zealander"?

Is "NZ European" intended to include British and Australians who hold
British or Australian passports?

Since there are more British and Dutch here than some named groups of
polynesians why are they not referred to in the census form?

[Titus G]

Allistar wrote:
> Titus G wrote:

>> Allistar wrote:
>>> I was born on a Pacific island (the one we call "North"), so am I
>>> not a Pacific Islander?

>> Question 9 asks which country you were born in. One of the options
>> is New Zealand.
>> Question 11 asks which ethnic group you belong to.

snip

> Frankly

Why do you tell us you are being frank?

Is it out of character for you to be honest?

> my ethnicity is none of the governments business. Neither is
> how much I earn or how many kids I have.

What a ludicrous response!
Such a reply has nothing to do with your original inane question under the
Subject: Census Day, asking if you were a Pacific Islander. Whether you are
a NZ Pacific Islander or not was covered in question 9. It is not difficult.

[Titus G]

Roger Dewhurst wrote:
> On Mar 8, 6:07 pm, "Titus G" <znotr...@nowhereelse.com> wrote:

>>> "Allistar" wrote
>>>> Who here does not like being labelled an "NZ European" and instead
>>>> chose "Other" and wrote "New Zealander"?

> Is "NZ European" intended to include British and Australians who hold
> British or Australian passports?
> Since there are more British and Dutch here than some named groups of
> polynesians why are they not referred to in the census form?

>> Question 9 asks which country you were born in. One of the options
>> is New Zealand.
>> Question 11 asks which ethnic group you belong to.
>> It is not difficult.

My response was to the idiotic question posed by Alistar as above. I do not
intend to be rude to you but do not know the answers to your questions and
am not interested so could only guess. I will not waste your time.

[victor]

On 8/03/2013 6:23 p.m., Allistar wrote:

>
> Frankly my ethnicity is none of the governments business. Neither is how
> much I earn or how many kids I have.
>

They aren't interested in your business, they are compiling statistics.
You make a one in 4.46 million difference.
Its a snapshot of the country so we can all get an idea of the rate of
changes

[Gordon]

On 2013-03-08, Titus G <znot...@nowhereelse.com> wrote:
> greybeard wrote:
>> "Allistar" wrote
>>> Who here does not like being labelled an "NZ European" and instead
>>> chose "Other" and wrote "New Zealander"?
>
> Question 9 asks which country you were born in. One of the options is New
> Zealand.
> Question 11 asks which ethnic group you belong to.
> It is not difficult.

Or is it. Ethinicnersity is fast becoming a blurred line.

From dictionary.com

Quote

ethnic
 adjective
1.
pertaining to or characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic
group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the
like.
2.
referring to the origin, classification, characteristics, etc., of such
groups.
3.
being a member of an ethnic group, especially of a group that is a minority
within a larger society: ethnic Chinese in San Francisco.
4.
of, pertaining to, or characteristic of members of such a group.
5.
belonging to or deriving from the cultural, racial, religious, or linguistic
traditions of a people or country: ethnic dances.


Unquote.

Number 3 leads to some interesting ideas if you think about it. Are boy
racers for example a ethinic group, are politicans?

[Allistar]

Titus G wrote:

> Roger Dewhurst wrote:
>> On Mar 8, 6:07 pm, "Titus G" <znotr...@nowhereelse.com> wrote:
>
>>>> "Allistar" wrote
>>>>> Who here does not like being labelled an "NZ European" and instead
>>>>> chose "Other" and wrote "New Zealander"?
>
>> Is "NZ European" intended to include British and Australians who hold
>> British or Australian passports?
>> Since there are more British and Dutch here than some named groups of
>> polynesians why are they not referred to in the census form?
>
>>> Question 9 asks which country you were born in. One of the options
>>> is New Zealand.
>>> Question 11 asks which ethnic group you belong to.
>>> It is not difficult.
>
> My response was to the idiotic question posed by Alistar as above.

What idiotic question? I asked "who here does not like being labelled an 'NZ
Eurpoean' and instead chose 'Other' and wrote 'New Zealander'". How is that
an idiotic question?

> I do
> not intend to be rude to you but do not know the answers to your questions
> and am not interested so could only guess. I will not waste your time.

Why bother replying at all then?
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A.

[geopelia]

"victor" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
news:khc218$blc$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

Just be glad you can fill in a form, and don't have to go back to your
ancestral home.
Look what happened when Caesar wanted a census so "all the world should be
taxed" but didn't arrange for sufficient accommodation for the travellers.

And with the motorway chaos the other day, perhaps donkey travel there would
be a better idea!

[geopelia]

<A...@any.where.ver> wrote in message
news:juplj81fg3jig75gk...@4ax.com...
> On , , Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:08:19 -0800 (PST), Re: Census Day, Roger
> Dewhurst

> <dewhurs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 8, 6:07 pm, "Titus G" <znotr...@nowhereelse.com> wrote:
>>> greybeard wrote:
>>> > "Allistar" wrote
>>> >> Who here does not like being labelled an "NZ European" and instead
>>> >> chose "Other" and wrote "New Zealander"?
>>
>>Is "NZ European" intended to include British and Australians who hold
>>British or Australian passports?
>>
>>Since there are more British and Dutch here than some named groups of
>>polynesians why are they not referred to in the census form?
>

> There wasn't a box for you to tick: Ten pound pom.

Perhaps that should be included on the census forms. It would be interesting
to know how many are still here.
And a question for the Dutch immigrants too.