R
And Carnations who looks like the back of a bus.
Not wanting to take issue with the obvious bone of contention
regarding "capable woman", but I read the 'ugliness' as refering to
her character as opposed to appearance.
R
What a total FW. Personal abuse is your middle Name.
As for “logical and reasoned debate ”
When are you going to start that?
>Uglier than ever, if that is possible.
>
While you childishly spew your envious bile, you'd do well to remember
that Clark has proven smarter, far better educated and infinitely more
successful in her chosen, career than most, including you.
There now, feeling better about yourself?
Smarter? better educated? more succesful in her chosen carreer. Maybe you
have a point on the last one. She's heading to being a VERY successful
dictator. But thats the only claim you've made I'd agree with you on.
Pooh
Cheers,
Cliff
--
The Internet is interesting in that although the nicknames may change,
the same old personalities show through.
Which chosen career?
- Lecturer (in which she did not last long and
pulled out of her PhD)?
- Politician (in which she lasted long, but was
turfed out when campaigning on "trust" and
by somebody who her supporters have a
stunningly low opinion of)?
- Dictator (in which she was wagged by every
tail in her MMP government, such was her
lust for the top job)?
- Gravy-train scoffer (in which she is going
great-guns)?
She's a parasite, like you. Neither have produced any values
anyone anywhere would be willing to pay for. You both live off
tax usurped from 'productive' people.
YOU, Keith Warren, act like a pig, smell like a pig and oink like
a pig.
Name one less smart than most people, less educated than most people,
dictator that wasn't/isn't supported by the Merkans, please.
She operates by the 'principles' of communism. That makes her
evil, rather than good.
>-Newsman- wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:04:25 +1300, Roger Dewhurst
>> <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> Uglier than ever, if that is possible.
>>>
>> While you childishly spew your envious bile, you'd do well to
>> remember
>> that Clark has proven smarter, far better educated and
>> infinitely more
>> successful in her chosen, career than most, including you.
>
>She's a parasite, like you.
No matter. She's successful in her own right whereas you, John
Bilderbeck. are demonstrably and pathetically unsuccessful in yours.
And as far as your contribution to this thread is concerned, that's
all that counts.
>On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:04:25 +1300, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
>
>> Uglier than ever, if that is possible.
>
>Do you say these sort of nasty snide comments just because she is a capable woman?
>
>I mean, you don't talk about John Key in the same manner, and he is definitely not pretty.
And whether he's actually competent remains to be proved.
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington New Zealand
There's every matter. If everyone were like her and you, then
you'd all be eating each others flesh.
Your cerebral necrosis is approaching totality.
>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:24:07 -0800, misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:
>
>> Not wanting to take issue with the obvious bone of contention regarding
>> "capable woman", but I read the 'ugliness' as refering to her character
>> as opposed to appearance.
>
>Actually, I thought that she was one of the most principled prime ministers that we have had in the last 4
>decades!
You what?
What about when it was Minister de-hospitilisation?
And the picture of you is posted where Roger?
Post the URL so we can have a look.
rob
>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:24:07 -0800, misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:
>
>> Not wanting to take issue with the obvious bone of contention regarding
>> "capable woman", but I read the 'ugliness' as refering to her character
>> as opposed to appearance.
>
>Actually, I thought that she was one of the most principled prime ministers that we have had in the last 4
>decades!
John Key - if its legal then its OK - this government doesn't care
about ethics...
found it Roger http://www.facebook.com/people/Roger-Dewhurst/543602542
Hellen Clark - if I break the law change the law and backdate the change to
cover my scrawny arse.
I know who I'd trust further.
Pooh
So much for your post about how wrong it was to abuse.
“When all logical and reasoned debate is impossible for you, you
resort to
personal abuse”
Being highly educated had very little to do Clark taking over the
labour party.
More to do with a cunning plain and cold hearted backstabbing.
So Roger is smarter and better educated than HC?
When will we get to see that in action?
He's 'comfortable'
In 40 years?
Mike Moore?
Goeff Palmer?
Bill Rowling?
Norm Kirk?
Keith Holyoake?
All had their flaws, but to argue they were less principled than Clark
is an argument too far!
>On Nov 8, 5:29=A0pm, slay...@hotmail.com (-Newsman-) wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:04:25 +1300, Roger Dewhurst
>>
>> <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>> >Uglier than ever, if that is possible.
>>
>> While you childishly spew your envious bile, you'd do well to remember
>> that Clark has proven smarter, far better educated and infinitely more
>> successful in her chosen, career than most, including you.
>>
>> There now, feeling better about yourself?
>
>
>Being highly educated had very little to do Clark taking over the
>labour party.
If you were not so ignorant you would know it had everything to do
with Clark gaining control of her party, holding governmental power
for a full nine years, only then to be appointed to the third most
powerful postion in the UN.
>More to do with a cunning plain and cold hearted backstabbing.
You are now speaking of the treacherous, usurping poseuse, Shipley,
who was undone in short order by her own vacuous hubris and
incompetence.
Looks like a very seedy place to work.
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=1853.782.0.0
The Corruption of the United Nations
October 20, 2005 | From theTrumpet.com
The oil-for-food scandal was an international embarrassment—but it’s
just one example in an organization rife with corruption.
Rape. Murder. Billions of dollars in fraud and embezzlement on a
global scale. The United Nations, formed to “save succeeding
generations from the scourge of war,” has instead become more like a
movie that is too graphic to show your children.
In the last year, the reputation of the UN has been shredded by
allegations of kickbacks, billions of dollars in graft in the oil-for-
food scandal, the rape of minors in the Congo sex scandal, and a total
lack of accountability.
>
> >More to do with a cunning plain and cold hearted backstabbing.
>
> You are now speaking of the treacherous, usurping poseuse, Shipley,
> who was undone in short order by her own vacuous hubris and
> incompetence.
Politicians have been back stabbing for years.
both labour and National
If you believe Clark was elected PM
On her ability you are dreaming.
Any labour MP or dead rat leading the party in 1999 would have become
PM.
That's a nice picture of Roger. Some people are more photogenic than others.
But I think Helen Clark looks nice and natural.
For a predator, yes. LOL
And relaxed.
> Uglier than ever, if that is possible.
Seems like women simply cannot succeed without being judged on their looks.
Clark has managed the one andcan obviously handle the other.
Supremely well.
It's the weak man's response.
Otherwise known as the Bilderbeck Twitch
Would you apologise if you were to discover, just by chance, if it is
indeed the case, that misanthropic_curmudgeon is a university lecturer?
R
> Would you apologise if you were to discover, just by chance, if it is
> indeed the case, that misanthropic_curmudgeon is a university lecturer?
>
> R
I wouldn't, I'd fall over with astonishment.
> Would you apologise if you were to discover, just by chance, if it is
> indeed the case, that misanthropic_curmudgeon is a university lecturer?
He'd probably choke to death attempting to do so.
University lecturers can be surprisingly narrow in their focus, and
hence relatively ignorant in other areas. In assessing posts on
nz.general, it may be of interest to know someone's background, but
the quality of theor post is not determined by that background. Its
like trying to say that John Key is a financial expert because he
worked for Merril Lynch - he is not, but his job as Prime Minister
does require him to at least understand some basics, and to understand
a wide range of expert advice. That he is a millionaire if irrelevant
to the decisions he makes.
"anuone" was a bit of a blooper.
Pride comes before the fall
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a
fall.
University lecturers may have a fairly narrow field of *specialist*
focus, but they tend to be better educated than average in a general
sense and view things rather more holistically than most[1].
Your comment about John Key is equally flawed as "financial expert" can
cover such a broad range of knowledge. He's probably not a tax
accounting expert, nor a business finance expert but he very probably is
a "financial expert" in currency hedging which means he is at least
likely to understand the expert advice he receives more fully than most
other people. I seriously doubt than many, if any, politicians are
financially knowledgeable at the level required to "run" a country's
finances. And I agree, his being a millionaire is completely
superfluous to his ability to perform as a politician.
[1] An observation based on 20+ years surrounded by and working with
university lecturers.
'In general', you are absolutely right - many lecturers are indeed
widely read, and interested in many areas outside their 'specialist'
field. There are exceptions however.
John Key certainly showed that he did not understand government
finances at one stage - he tends not to make comments in that area any
more. And National in general (and Nick Smith on particular), either
by ignorance or design, make many many wrong statements about ACC. It
will be interesting to see how they handle the 'windfall' profits ACC
achieved recently from an increase in asset values . . .
speaking of predators, how are you John.
rob
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:24:43 +1300, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> <l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>
>>In message <hd4nc5$e17$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
>>
>>> Uglier than ever, if that is possible.
>>
>>Seems like women simply cannot succeed without being judged on their
>>looks.
>
> It's the weak man's response.
You're just jealous because she's better looking than you.
>In message <ru4ff5dsh3d0906p3...@4ax.com>, Brian Dooley wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:24:43 +1300, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>> <l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <hd4nc5$e17$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uglier than ever, if that is possible.
>>>
>>>Seems like women simply cannot succeed without being judged on their
>>>looks.
>>
>> It's the weak man's response.
>
>You're just jealous because she's better looking than you.
Who is?
Unlike some here I can actually produce a birth certificate.
Amusingly, the following is the 4th ranked image on a Google Image
search for 'Brian Dooley'
I'm flattered to be the subject of so much interest.
Is it a good likeness?
He was looking an image for Halloween a fews ago to scare kids with.
Your it.
Whose it?
>Is it a good likeness?
I'm not one to boast.
Your own post lacks coherence and punctuation and is grammatically
incorrect. As MC would say, *smile*.
"not anuone else"
Expert at throwing stones in a glasshouse
Scooter you are posting BS
> Now that your fourteen year old brain has been amused, why don't you go back to
> bed now that mummy has changed it after your "accident".
>
> --
> "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
> to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
> Anatole France.- Hide quoted text -
I suggest you ignore Scooter, he craves attention and will say anything to
get it..
Scooter would rather have bad attention than no attention at all..
>
>
>
>> Now that your fourteen year old brain has been amused, why don't you
>> go back to bed now that mummy has changed it after your "accident".
>>
>> --
>> "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the
>> poor
>> to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
>> Anatole France.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>On , , Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:24:41 -0800 (PST), Re: Clark on Q&A, liberty
>I'll ask you again, mainly for the record: what is a trolley boy?
>You have failed to come up with an explanation the last four times I have asked.
>When it comes to playing with yourself, I think a fourteen year old like you
>would have daily hands on experience.
"liberty' may be a shelf-stacker at a supermarket - they look down on
the people employed to collect trolleys from the car-park