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Enkidu
May 16, 2013, 6:26:46 PM5/16/13
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English delivered his latest non-budget. He's getting quite good at it
now. I noticed that National once again claimed credit for something
that is out of their control - the brightening economic situation.
I feel sorry for English. He's the only one in his party with any nous,
but they continually give him little or nothing to work with. He should
take over again.
The budget is giving back to education only what was taken from it what
was taken before. The housing changes are a flea's bite and won't many
any real difference. It seems that the Nats want to take control of
resource consents - it seems only natural to them that they know better
than the locals what is best for a community. It's the "Daddy knows
best" syndrome.
Cheers,
Cliff
now. I noticed that National once again claimed credit for something
that is out of their control - the brightening economic situation.
I feel sorry for English. He's the only one in his party with any nous,
but they continually give him little or nothing to work with. He should
take over again.
The budget is giving back to education only what was taken from it what
was taken before. The housing changes are a flea's bite and won't many
any real difference. It seems that the Nats want to take control of
resource consents - it seems only natural to them that they know better
than the locals what is best for a community. It's the "Daddy knows
best" syndrome.
Cheers,
Cliff
JohnO
May 16, 2013, 6:36:06 PM5/16/13
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On May 17, 10:26 am, Enkidu <enk...@cliffp.com.cliffp.com> wrote:
> English delivered his latest non-budget.
Well, it's a non wasteful spending budget - good.
> English delivered his latest non-budget.
> He's getting quite good at it
> now. I noticed that National once again claimed credit for something
> that is out of their control - the brightening economic situation.
lefties are always whinging about the government failing on the
economy then?
>
> I feel sorry for English. He's the only one in his party with any nous,
> but they continually give him little or nothing to work with. He should
> take over again.
formula, but I expect they'll stick to their good cop bad cop routine
for now.
>
> The budget is giving back to education only what was taken from it what
> was taken before. The housing changes are a flea's bite and won't many
> any real difference. It seems that the Nats want to take control of
> resource consents - it seems only natural to them that they know better
> than the locals what is best for a community. It's the "Daddy knows
> best" syndrome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff
I always find it ironic, Cliffie, that you sign off your dreary
whinges with "Cheers".
Cheers
JohnO
Allistar
May 16, 2013, 7:01:47 PM5/16/13
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Enkidu wrote:
> English delivered his latest non-budget. He's getting quite good at it
> now. I noticed that National once again claimed credit for something
> that is out of their control - the brightening economic situation.
>
> I feel sorry for English. He's the only one in his party with any nous,
> but they continually give him little or nothing to work with. He should
> take over again.
It's extremely disappointing there are no further tax cuts. They should be
> English delivered his latest non-budget. He's getting quite good at it
> now. I noticed that National once again claimed credit for something
> that is out of their control - the brightening economic situation.
>
> I feel sorry for English. He's the only one in his party with any nous,
> but they continually give him little or nothing to work with. He should
> take over again.
seeking to make the tax system fairer by flattening it. Having the top 2% of
earners pay 21% of the tax is anything but fair.
> The budget is giving back to education only what was taken from it what
> was taken before. The housing changes are a flea's bite and won't many
> any real difference. It seems that the Nats want to take control of
> resource consents - it seems only natural to them that they know better
> than the locals what is best for a community. It's the "Daddy knows
> best" syndrome.
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A.
Mutlley
May 16, 2013, 8:58:33 PM5/16/13
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billions away and print money to cover it and increase taxes as well..
misanthropic_curmudgeon
May 16, 2013, 9:47:20 PM5/16/13
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On Friday, 17 May 2013 10:26:46 UTC+12, Enkidu wrote:
[snip]
This government has been running a stable one, whereas everything Labour and Greens have said indicated they'd rather paint-n-putty a leaky boat, while slashing at sails.
[snip]
> I noticed that National once again claimed credit for
> something that is out of their control - the brightening
> economic situation.
Once can't control the weather, but one can control the quality of the ship.
> something that is out of their control - the brightening
> economic situation.
This government has been running a stable one, whereas everything Labour and Greens have said indicated they'd rather paint-n-putty a leaky boat, while slashing at sails.
geopelia
May 17, 2013, 6:25:22 PM5/17/13
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"misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com>
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Greens?
Pooh
May 17, 2013, 8:03:13 PM5/17/13
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"geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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every election without taking a good look at the parties and their policies.
The likes of Richie vote the same old way because they're to stupid to
believe the party/s they support can do anything wrong.
Pooh
Rich80105
May 17, 2013, 8:06:27 PM5/17/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:25:22 +1200, "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
That is as true as a vote for National is a vote for ACT
wrote:
Pooh
May 18, 2013, 12:58:35 AM5/18/13
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"Rich80105" <rich...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Dickie.
Pooh
-Newsman-
May 20, 2013, 3:08:18 AM5/20/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:01:47 +1200, Allistar <m...@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
>Enkidu wrote:
>
>> English delivered his latest non-budget. He's getting quite good at it
>> now. I noticed that National once again claimed credit for something
>> that is out of their control - the brightening economic situation.
>>
>> I feel sorry for English. He's the only one in his party with any nous,
>> but they continually give him little or nothing to work with. He should
>> take over again.
>
>It's extremely disappointing there are no further tax cuts. They should be
>seeking to make the tax system fairer by flattening it. Having the top 2% of
>earners pay 21% of the tax is anything but fair.
Since unfairness is something you're never going to be rid of, would
you therefore opt to be one of the top 2% of earners not one of whom
has yet to whinge that they **can't afford** the tax they pay?
Or one of the remaining 98%?
Again, which of these options would make you feel less unfairly done
by compared to the other? And why?
level.
In fact, if you're not already elected, get yourself onto your local
council and start sorting out all this dreadful unfairness that is
clearly corroding your hapless little moralistic soul away, even as
you read this.
wrote:
>Enkidu wrote:
>
>> English delivered his latest non-budget. He's getting quite good at it
>> now. I noticed that National once again claimed credit for something
>> that is out of their control - the brightening economic situation.
>>
>> I feel sorry for English. He's the only one in his party with any nous,
>> but they continually give him little or nothing to work with. He should
>> take over again.
>
>It's extremely disappointing there are no further tax cuts. They should be
>seeking to make the tax system fairer by flattening it. Having the top 2% of
>earners pay 21% of the tax is anything but fair.
you therefore opt to be one of the top 2% of earners not one of whom
has yet to whinge that they **can't afford** the tax they pay?
Or one of the remaining 98%?
Again, which of these options would make you feel less unfairly done
by compared to the other? And why?
>
>> The budget is giving back to education only what was taken from it what
>> was taken before. The housing changes are a flea's bite and won't many
>> any real difference. It seems that the Nats want to take control of
>> resource consents - it seems only natural to them that they know better
>> than the locals what is best for a community. It's the "Daddy knows
>> best" syndrome.
>
>Councils are not "the community". People are.
A council is the elected representative of the community at the local
>> The budget is giving back to education only what was taken from it what
>> was taken before. The housing changes are a flea's bite and won't many
>> any real difference. It seems that the Nats want to take control of
>> resource consents - it seems only natural to them that they know better
>> than the locals what is best for a community. It's the "Daddy knows
>> best" syndrome.
>
>Councils are not "the community". People are.
level.
In fact, if you're not already elected, get yourself onto your local
council and start sorting out all this dreadful unfairness that is
clearly corroding your hapless little moralistic soul away, even as
you read this.
Allistar
May 20, 2013, 5:24:54 AM5/20/13
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-Newsman- wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:01:47 +1200, Allistar <m...@hiddenaddress.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Enkidu wrote:
>>
>>> English delivered his latest non-budget. He's getting quite good at it
>>> now. I noticed that National once again claimed credit for something
>>> that is out of their control - the brightening economic situation.
>>>
>>> I feel sorry for English. He's the only one in his party with any nous,
>>> but they continually give him little or nothing to work with. He should
>>> take over again.
>>
>>It's extremely disappointing there are no further tax cuts. They should be
>>seeking to make the tax system fairer by flattening it. Having the top 2%
>>of earners pay 21% of the tax is anything but fair.
>
> Since unfairness is something you're never going to be rid of, would
> you therefore opt to be one of the top 2% of earners not one of whom
> has yet to whinge that they **can't afford** the tax they pay?
What has not being able to afford paying the demand of the IRD got to do
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:01:47 +1200, Allistar <m...@hiddenaddress.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Enkidu wrote:
>>
>>> English delivered his latest non-budget. He's getting quite good at it
>>> now. I noticed that National once again claimed credit for something
>>> that is out of their control - the brightening economic situation.
>>>
>>> I feel sorry for English. He's the only one in his party with any nous,
>>> but they continually give him little or nothing to work with. He should
>>> take over again.
>>
>>It's extremely disappointing there are no further tax cuts. They should be
>>seeking to make the tax system fairer by flattening it. Having the top 2%
>>of earners pay 21% of the tax is anything but fair.
>
> Since unfairness is something you're never going to be rid of, would
> you therefore opt to be one of the top 2% of earners not one of whom
> has yet to whinge that they **can't afford** the tax they pay?
with anything? It's a complete irrelevance.
> Or one of the remaining 98%?
>
> Again, which of these options would make you feel less unfairly done
> by compared to the other? And why?
not use, or out of proportion to their use of it is being treated unfairly.
>>> The budget is giving back to education only what was taken from it what
>>> was taken before. The housing changes are a flea's bite and won't many
>>> any real difference. It seems that the Nats want to take control of
>>> resource consents - it seems only natural to them that they know better
>>> than the locals what is best for a community. It's the "Daddy knows
>>> best" syndrome.
>>
>>Councils are not "the community". People are.
>
> A council is the elected representative of the community at the local
> level.
> In fact, if you're not already elected, get yourself onto your local
> council and start sorting out all this dreadful unfairness that is
> clearly corroding your hapless little moralistic soul away, even as
> you read this.
--
A.
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