Lighten up on Clayton Weatherston: Sophie was no saint
NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad
out at a piece of lowlife) and a celebrity
spine-kicking (my brilliant colleague Tony Veitch lashing out at a
real pain who just would not leave his
condominium when he told her to). In both cases, I and my colleagues
at NewstalkZB weighed the evidence soberly and carefully, and came out
firmly on the side of the assailants. Our brave and principled stance
was criticised by the usual assortment of malcontents and
complainers---you know, the "P.C. brigade". So I have no
doubt that my following comments will come under criticism from the
usual suspects. BUT, QUITE FRANKLY MY DEARS, I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S
BOTTOM.
For I wish to speak on the vexed case of Clayton Weatherston, who is
currently facing a murder rap for
lashing out at a bimbo who came at him with a pair of scissors. And
she used foul language.
The courtroom evidence shows that Clayton was provoked by the pain of
his tumultuous relationship with his former
girlfriend Sophie Elliott. But there seems to be little
acknowledgement of Clayton's psychic pain if you go by the
way the media (other than NewstalkZB) is portraying this trial. As far
as most journos are concerned, the only
thing that matters is the fact that Clayton lashed out at her. Okay,
okay--lashed out with a knife.
But let's not forget that she came at him with a pair of scissors at
one stage of their relationship. Okay, okay,
okay---she didn't actually HARM him at all. But the question remains:
if she was so perfect, as we are
told, what on EARTH was she doing attacking her boyfriend with a pair
of scissors?
And there's another thing: as her cold fish of a mother admitted to
defence counsel, Sophie was SWEARING at
Clayton when he was lashing out at her.
Yes. yes, yes, of course he shouldn't have stabbed her more than 200
times. There is, MAYBE, a case for saying Clayton's response was
disproportionate. I suppose it's fair enough to say he over-reacted.
But he over-reacted for a reason. Just like poor Bruce Emery and the
much-maligned Tony Veitch over-reacted.
As was the case with Bruce Emery, and with Tony, there were reasons
for Clayton lashing out. If someone came at
ME with a pair of scissors, using foul language, I'd stab her THREE
hundred times, not just two hundred!
Anyway, whatever happens sentencing-wise, Clayton Weatherston can rest
assured that there's at least ONE
radio station that's on his side.
Speak to ya tonight, guys!
NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
E. Scrooge
"NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad" <kerreohowma...@windowslive.com> wrote
in message
news:7494262a-7284-45db...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
It might PAY for you to realise that everyone from the person in the
street to politician and stirrers hosting radio talkback shows are entitled
to their opinions, but just remember that doesn't mean that even that the
opinion of the Prime Minister of NZ isn't always right, same with everyone
else's opinions as well.
If we look at what your post is really about, it's all about trying to get
more suckers to waste their time to support your biased weak minded stirring
up controversial talkback show.
The real result of your post is to not bother with the biased dictating
NewstalkZB at all imo.
You claim that she deserved to be stabbed over a two hundred times and to
have her body mutilasted claiming that it was all her fault.
Fact is she broke off the relationship, and was about to start a new job in
another city. He went to her home, she didn't go to his home in order to
attack him.
I put to you that you never actually saw any attack involving the dead
victim with a pair of scissors against Weatherston at all and there's no
police evidence of charges against her to support such a claim.
Many media personalties are far better than your loud mouth mate Veitch ever
was. Peter Williams and many other sports media people have earned much
more respect than any loud mouth fool ever will.
Everyone posts in here on equal terms. Good respected people from Tom Scott
to the producer of Shortland Street have never had a problem coming in here
to take part on equal levels in any discussions.
Of course you don't give a rat's arse. Such a well mannered rat like
yourself can't afford to go round giving your arse away. Quite frankly your
stirring in here to try to help your failing talkback nonsense has come
completely unstuck and deserves to lose more radio talkback listeners than
ever. It's not everyone that gets to hear from a talking rat though LOL.
E. Scrooge
BrentC
<kerreohowma...@windowslive.com> wrote:
>
>For I wish to speak on the vexed case of Clayton Weatherston, who is
>currently facing a murder rap for
>lashing out at a bimbo who came at him with a pair of scissors. And
>she used foul language.
>
Sure
What a bitch she was - she really deserved to be slashed and
mutilated.
Anyone who thinks differently is just to sensible to be posting in
nz.general.
As for Clayton and that dopey money grabbing hag defending him - may
they rot
bugalugs
Weatherston has admitted he did it so the question is, where was the
knife before he had it in his hand. If the knife was kept in the kitchen
and he took it into the room with him, or went back and got it, he's a
goner. Premeditated.
Anything else is windowdressing aimed at sympathy.
Kerry
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wonder where the 'bag of gifts' he took her ended up?
NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad
*)> wrote:
> "NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad" <kerreohowmadnewstal...@windowslive.com> wrote
> in messagenews:7494262a-7284-45db...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > I've written before about a high-profile knifing (Bruce Emery lashing
> > out at a piece of lowlife) and a celebrity
> > spine-kicking (my brilliant colleague Tony Veitch lashing out at a
> > real pain who just would not leave his
> > condominium when he told her to). In both cases, I and my colleagues
> > at NewstalkZB weighed the evidence soberly and carefully, and came out
> > firmly on the side of the assailants. Our brave and principled stance
> > was criticised by the usual assortment of malcontents and
> > complainers---you know, the "P.C. brigade". So I have no
> > doubt that my following comments will come under criticism from the
> > usual suspects. BUT, QUITE FRANKLY MY DEARS, I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S
> > BOTTOM.
>
> > assured that there's at least ONE
> > radio station that's on his side.
>
> > Speak to ya tonight, guys!
>
> > NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
>
> It might PAY for you to realise that everyone from the person in the
> street to politician and stirrers hosting radio talkback shows are entitled
> to their opinions, but just remember that doesn't mean that even that the
> opinion of the Prime Minister of NZ isn't always right, same with everyone
> else's opinions as well.
I doubt, somehow, that your opinions are as valid as mine. What was
the name of your show again?
>
> If we look at what your post is really about, it's all about trying to get
> more suckers to waste their time to support your biased weak minded stirring
> up controversial talkback show.
>
> The real result of your post is to not bother with the biased dictating
> NewstalkZB at all imo.
Nobody dictates to the hosts at NewstalkZB how we think. For instance,
a year ago, when every single host on NewstalkZB decided to "go after"
Kristin Dunne-Powell, it was strictly on the basis of having assessed
the evidence against her. We all decided, quite independently, that
the evidence against Tony did not stand up to scrutiny, and that KDP
was orchestrating (or at least participating in) a witch-hunt against
a decent man.
>
> You claim that she deserved to be stabbed over a two hundred times and to
> have her body mutilasted
"Mutilasted"? Perhaps you might like to try that one again...
>
> claiming that it was all her fault.
> Fact is she broke off the relationship, and was about to start a new job in
> another city. He went to her home, she didn't go to his home in order to
> attack him.
> I put to you that you never actually saw any attack involving the dead
> victim with a pair of scissors against Weatherston at all and there's no
> police evidence of charges against her to support such a claim.
>
> Many media personalties are far better than your loud mouth mate Veitch ever
> was. Peter Williams and many other sports media people have earned much
> more respect than any loud mouth fool ever will.
>
> Everyone posts in here on equal terms. Good respected people from Tom Scott
> to the producer of Shortland Street have never had a problem coming in here
> to take part on equal levels in any discussions.
>
> Of course you don't give a rat's arse. Such a well mannered rat like
> yourself can't afford to go round giving your arse away. Quite frankly your
> stirring in here to try to help your failing talkback nonsense has come
> completely unstuck and deserves to lose more radio talkback listeners than
> ever. It's not everyone that gets to hear from a talking rat though LOL.
Give me a call tonight, Scrooge. The number is: 0800-801080
NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
John Cawston
You are responding to a troll
JC
NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad
> bugalugs wrote:
> > NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad wrote:
> >> I've written before about a high-profile knifing (Bruce Emery lashing
> >> out at a piece of lowlife) and a celebrity
> >> spine-kicking (my brilliant colleague Tony Veitch lashing out at a
> >> real pain who just would not leave his
> >> condominium when he told her to). In both cases, I and my colleagues
> >> at NewstalkZB weighed the evidence soberly and carefully, and came out
> >> firmly on the side of the assailants. Our brave and principled stance
> >> was criticised by the usual assortment of malcontents and
> >> complainers---you know, the "P.C. brigade". So I have no
> >> doubt that my following comments will come under criticism from the
> >> usual suspects. BUT, QUITE FRANKLY MY DEARS, I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S
> >> BOTTOM.
>
> >> assured that there's at least ONE
> >> radio station that's on his side.
>
> >> Speak to ya tonight, guys!
>
> >> NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
>
> > knife before he had it in his hand. If the knife was kept in the kitchen
> > and he took it into the room with him, or went back and got it, he's a
> > goner. Premeditated.
>
> > Anything else is windowdressing aimed at sympathy.
>
> You are responding to a troll
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've been called much worse things than a moll, sweety.
Anyway, I've noticed that you and I think pretty much identically on
most issues.
What's your problem?
Keep Up!.... with NewstalkZB.
WorkHard
> I've been called much worse things than a moll, sweety.
> Anyway, I've noticed that you and I think pretty much
> identically on
> most issues.
> What's your problem?
This is not Woodham. It's a troll alright. Probably Me, or Will
Spencer. Could even be Richtard maybe.
--
"Get off your lazy butt and do some work!"
WorkHard
> Give me a call tonight, Scrooge. The number is: 0800-801080
How about you state on Radio at 9:00pm tonight that you posted to
this newsgroup.
You're NOT Woodham. You are Me, Will Spencer, Galleria, Victor,
vitw, or some other such nutter that haunts this place.
liberty
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
If a man finds their GF in the sack with another man it is
justifiable manslaughter .
If a man goes to his GF house with a knife as she is preparing to
leave town. And butchers her.
It is murder.
A bit of agro between couples doesn’t justify the actions this lowlife
took.
The question you should be asking
Is why do woman get attached to f..wit guys let alone bred with them.
Misanthropic Curmudgeon
<kerreohowmadnewstal...@windowslive.com> wrote:
[snip]
> Give me a call tonight, Scrooge. The number is: 0800-801080
Jeez, one must be really desperate for patronage to be trawling in
here for it.
Me
> NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad wrote:
>
>
>>>>> NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
>>>> Weatherstonhas admitted he did it so the question is, where
>>>> was the
>>>> knife before he had it in his hand. If the knife was kept in
>>>> the
>>>> kitchen and he took it into the room with him, or went back
>>>> and got
>>>> it, he's a goner. Premeditated.
>>>> Anything else is windowdressing aimed at sympathy.
>>> You are responding to a troll
>
>> I've been called much worse things than a moll, sweety.
>> Anyway, I've noticed that you and I think pretty much
>> identically on
>> most issues.
>> What's your problem?
>
Why would I want to deliberately "troll", when it's so blindingly easy
to elicit an hysterical emotional response from you - a born loser with
victim mentality - by stating something as totally uncontroversial (to
the sane) as this?
george
<kerreohowmadnewstal...@windowslive.com> wrote:
> Nobody dictates to the hosts at NewstalkZB how we think.
It would be the last thing any-one could accuse you of..
WorkHard
> WorkHard wrote:
>> NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>> NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
>>>>> Weatherstonhas admitted he did it so the question is, where
>>>>> was the
>>>>> knife before he had it in his hand. If the knife was kept
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> kitchen and he took it into the room with him, or went back
>>>>> and got
>>>>> it, he's a goner. Premeditated.
>>>>> Anything else is windowdressing aimed at sympathy.
>>>> You are responding to a troll
>>
>>> I've been called much worse things than a moll, sweety.
>>> Anyway, I've noticed that you and I think pretty much
>>> identically on
>>> most issues.
>>> What's your problem?
>>
>> This is not Woodham. It's a troll alright. Probably Me <snip>
> Why would I want to deliberately "troll",
It's all you do, that's why.
Me
> Me wrote:
>> WorkHard wrote:
>>> NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
>>>>>> Weatherstonhas admitted he did it so the question is, where
>>>>>> was the
>>>>>> knife before he had it in his hand. If the knife was kept
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> kitchen and he took it into the room with him, or went back
>>>>>> and got
>>>>>> it, he's a goner. Premeditated.
>>>>>> Anything else is windowdressing aimed at sympathy.
>>>>> You are responding to a troll
>>>> I've been called much worse things than a moll, sweety.
>>>> Anyway, I've noticed that you and I think pretty much
>>>> identically on
>>>> most issues.
>>>> What's your problem?
>>> This is not Woodham. It's a troll alright. Probably Me <snip>
>>Why would I want to deliberately "troll", when it's so blindingly
easy >>to elicit an hysterical emotional response from you - a born
loser >>with victim mentality - by stating something as totally
>>uncontroversial (to the sane) as this?
>
>
WorkHard
You said that last time.
E. Scrooge
While your total potential audience is limited to the total population of
NZ. The potential audience in a Microsoft group that I have a small part in
organising is worldwide, but that doesn't make anyone's opnions more valid
than anyone else's whether they be in Sweden, Alaska, or a small radio
station with a shrinking audience in NZ.
While you're full of your own importantance most good people in the real
world aren't like you at all.
When it comes to well known NZ personalties more people in NZ have more time
and respect for TVNZ's Kevin Milne that they ever had for you, and not
everyone would always agree with Kevin Milne's opnions at times either.
>
> If we look at what your post is really about, it's all about trying to get
> more suckers to waste their time to support your biased weak minded
> stirring
> up controversial talkback show.
>
> The real result of your post is to not bother with the biased dictating
> NewstalkZB at all imo.
Nobody dictates to the hosts at NewstalkZB how we think. For instance,
a year ago, when every single host on NewstalkZB decided to "go after"
Kristin Dunne-Powell, it was strictly on the basis of having assessed
the evidence against her. We all decided, quite independently, that
the evidence against Tony did not stand up to scrutiny, and that KDP
was orchestrating (or at least participating in) a witch-hunt against
a decent man.
The Newstalk hosts have complete control over the callers to their show, and
often make sure they get the last word in after getting rid of any callers
they don't agree with.
In here no one is going to talk over you or try to cut you off while you're
having your say. Unlike your little show you can't dictate the course that
any discussions in here happen to take esially when they don't happen to
agree with your own very biased views.
>
> You claim that she deserved to be stabbed over a two hundred times and to
> have her body mutilasted
"Mutilasted"? Perhaps you might like to try that one again...
Most people would've have managed to understand the quick typing error of
the word "mutilated" was caused by hitting the letters "A" and "S" at the
same time.
NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
Your radio career (if it even exists) must be really struggling for you to
come here begging for people to call you during your biased little radio
talk show.
A good tip for you if you are who you claim to be would be to start stirring
up talk about the new Dunedin Stadium that's going to cost the people of
Dunedin hundreds of millions during the worldwide recession. Try asking
John Key and Gerry Brownlie why they're so keen to support a very corrupt
Dunedin City Council chose not to let the Dunedin ratepayers vote on such an
improtant issue in the first place. The National government is giving 15
million which was just enough support for the DCC to go ahead and hit the
Dunedin ratepayers for more than 100 times that figure.
Ask Dunedin Mayor Peter Chin why the DCC is buying Carisbrook for 7 million
when the property has been valued at 3 million. The Otago Rugby Union just
happens to be 7 million in debt. The people of Dunedin don't like the idea
of the Dunedin City Council using money from the ratepayers to give to a
business to help pay off their debts.
E. Scrooge
Geopelia
Very funny! But I bet a few people take it seriously.
Roger_Nickel
You do give a rat's bottom, that's why you are posting.
brazen
"Kerry" <oxyt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4f0adbdd-735e-4d2e...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
various places in her body 200x - what a thoughtful guy
A _L_ P
> "NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad" <kerreohowma...@windowslive.com> wrote
> in message
> news:7494262a-7284-45db...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
_snip_
>> Yes. yes, yes, of course he shouldn't have stabbed her more than 200
>> times. There is, MAYBE, a case for saying Clayton's response was
>> disproportionate. I suppose it's fair enough to say he over-reacted.
>> But he over-reacted for a reason. Just like poor Bruce Emery and the
>> much-maligned Tony Veitch over-reacted.
>>
>> As was the case with Bruce Emery, and with Tony, there were reasons
>> for Clayton lashing out. If someone came at
>> ME with a pair of scissors, using foul language, I'd stab her THREE
>> hundred times, not just two hundred!
>>
>> Anyway, whatever happens sentencing-wise, Clayton Weatherston can rest
>> assured that there's at least ONE
>> radio station that's on his side.
>>
>> Speak to ya tonight, guys!
>>
>> NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
>>
>
> Very funny! But I bet a few people take it seriously.
>
I think you and I are the only people who picked it as a piss-take!
A L P
John Cawston
And me. I called it a troll.. possibly Morressy.
JC
>
> A L P
A _L_ P
subject which got a few people over-heated because they took it literally.
A L P
Kerry
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not so much a troll as a cynical and sarcastic post about the Auckland
cohort of luvvies
Kerry
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not so!
WorkHard
You think wrong.
WorkHard
Or Weihana WD.
Geopelia
"A _L_ P" <hay.he...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:h338jd$mgb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Irony, I'd say. Swift was good at that sort of thing.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Old Wolf
much of a prick someone is, nothing justifies
stabbing them 216 times. The guy clearly has
an education and knew that what he was doing
was wrong and dangerous. If he gets off, it will
be a new record for NZ courtroom fuckups.
Kerre
>
> - Show quoted text -
The comments being attributed to me are not mine. I have very strong
feelings about this trial but I am unable to express them publicly
because of sub judice rules. I am disappointed that some coward feels
the need to hide behind my name and identity. I don't mind criticism
- even downright abuse! - when it's made openly and to my face (or my
ear, if people are phoning me on air) - but this sort of craven
nastiness epitomises the very worst of the internet. Sorry for
crashing your group, but somebody sent me the link and I had to
respond.
Kerre Woodham
A _L_ P
I don't think anyone with a brain - admittedly that excludes a few on
this newsgroup - thought it was from you. It was obviously a spoofed
address intended to *suggest* you but most people here would, I think,
decode it and read the post as a piss-take. Being too lazy to shift the
radio dial national programme setting I missed the personal grudge
aspect. I was surprised to see a few people take it seriously - dunno
why, I've been here long enough to expect some people to be chronically
bumfusticated on any topic you could name.
A L P
Kerre
> Kerrewrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Didn't you write that only you and one other poster picked this as a
troll? I don't mind having to defend my viewpoints, no matter how
misinformed/anodyne/offensive they may be to others. But to have
people think I would be the author of something so offensive - and
poorly written - is inexcusable. Snide, nasty, cowardly people hide
behind the internet and pseudonyms.
Kerre.
george
> Didn't you write that only you and one other poster picked this as a
> troll? I don't mind having to defend my viewpoints, no matter how
> misinformed/anodyne/offensive they may be to others. But to have
> people think I would be the author of something so offensive - and
> poorly written - is inexcusable. Snide, nasty, cowardly people hide
> behind the internet and pseudonyms.
>
> Kerre.
So view the message headers, find who the ISP is and use the complaint
address you'll find there.
If they do nothing or if nothing happens you -can- take the matter
further in law.
The laws of libel and slander work on the Net just as they do in other
media.
A _L_ P
> On Jul 10, 12:10 am, A _L_ P <hay.hell....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kerrewrote:
>>> On Jul 9, 11:46 am, Kerry <oxytoc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 8, 2:18 pm, John Cawston <rewar...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>> bugalugs wrote:
>>>>>> NewstalkZB'sKerreohoWmadwrote:
for its own sake. And as it turns out quite a few other people "got it"
on that level.
> I don't mind having to defend my viewpoints, no matter how
> misinformed/anodyne/offensive they may be to others. But to have
> people think I would be the author of something so offensive - and
> poorly written - is inexcusable. Snide, nasty, cowardly people hide
> behind the internet and pseudonyms.
>
> Kerre.
On the internet nobody knows who you are. If someone registers an
account as kerre....@whatever.free.emailprovider who's to know
whether it's you or Joe "psycho" Blow? Only the quality of the post
matters in usemet. That's the only thing we can evaluate one another
by. Snide, nasty and cowardly characteristics, if they are in a person,
come out irrespective of whether they use their real name or a
real-looking name or an obvious nym.
A L P
Radio Transcripts Ltd
Kerre pursed her lips like a cat's arse and tapped out the following:
>
> The comments being attributed to me are not mine.
No, everyone except our friend Scrooge could see that. But anyone who
cares to look can see that Kerre ohoWmad's comments are clearly in the
spirit of similar comments you, and most of your colleagues, made
after the knife-killing of an Auckland teenager.
>
> I have very strong
> feelings about this trial but I am unable to express them publicly
> because of sub judice rules.
"Sub judice rules"? You and your colleagues showed no concern for sub
judice as you ran sustained campaigns of defamation against Pihema
Cameron and then against Kirsten Dunne-Powell.
>
> I am disappointed that some coward feels
> the need to hide behind my name and identity.
It's called "spoofing". Kerre ohoWmad's voice is not a fabrication,
it's barely even an exaggeration. It's an extrapolation of your
statements on air, and in print, over a substantial amount of time.
Your words are coming back to haunt you.
>
> I don't mind criticism
Good. That's encouraging.
>
> - even downright abuse! -
That was not abuse. That was, fundamentally, your voice.
>
> when it's made openly and to my face (or my
> ear, if people are phoning me on air) - but this sort of craven
> nastiness epitomises the very worst of the internet.
The "craven nastiness" of that post is all yours. We simply held up
the mirror.
>
> Sorry for
> crashing your group,
How have you "crashed" this group? It's a public site.
>
> but somebody sent me the link and I had to
> respond.
We think the best response you could make would be to re-assess your
on-air comments of the past two years, and then, if you were are up to
it, to apologise.
>
> Kerre Woodham
Radio Transcripts Ltd
Actually, they pretty much are your comments, refracted through the
lens of Clayton Weatherston's psychosis.
>
> - and poorly written
"Poorly written"? Though we say it ourselves, Kerre ohoWmad's piece is
far more coherent and well fashioned than anything you've ever written
in your Sunday Herald sprays.
>
> - is inexcusable. Snide, nasty, cowardly people hide
> behind the internet and pseudonyms.
Snide, nasty, cowardly people line up behind radio mikes to wage
campaigns of vituperation and defamation against the weak, the abused
and the poor. Some of the gang-bangs you've taken part in recently
include: Falun Gong, the people of Gaza, Pihema Cameron (R.I.P.),
Pihema Cameron's mother, and of course Kristin Dunne-Powell.
Radio Transcripts Ltd
Kerre pursed her lips like a cat's arse and tapped out the following:
>
> The comments being attributed to me are not mine.
No, everyone except our friend Scrooge could see that. But anyone who
cares to look can see that Kerre ohoWmad's comments are clearly in the
spirit of similar comments you, and most of your colleagues, made
after the knife-killing of an Auckland teenager.
>
> I have very strong
> feelings about this trial but I am unable to express them publicly
> because of sub judice rules.
"Sub judice rules"? You and your colleagues showed no concern for sub
judice as you ran sustained campaigns of defamation against Pihema
Cameron and then against Kirsten Dunne-Powell.
>
> I am disappointed that some coward feels
> the need to hide behind my name and identity.
It's called "spoofing". Kerre ohoWmad's voice is not a fabrication,
it's barely even an exaggeration. It's an extrapolation of your
statements on air, and in print, over a substantial amount of time.
Your words are coming back to haunt you.
>
> I don't mind criticism
Good. That's encouraging.
>
> - even downright abuse! -
That was not abuse. That was, fundamentally, your voice.
>
> when it's made openly and to my face (or my
> ear, if people are phoning me on air) - but this sort of craven
> nastiness epitomises the very worst of the internet.
The "craven nastiness" of that post is all yours. We simply held up
the mirror.
>
> Sorry for
> crashing your group,
How have you "crashed" this group? It's a public site.
>
> but somebody sent me the link and I had to
> respond.
We think the best response you could make would be to re-assess your
Radio Transcripts Ltd
> On Jul 10, 12:25 am, Kerre <ke...@newstalkzb.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > Didn't you write that only you and one other poster picked this as a
> > troll? I don't mind having to defend my viewpoints, no matter how
> > misinformed/anodyne/offensive they may be to others. But to have
> > people think I would be the author of something so offensive - and
> > poorly written - is inexcusable. Snide, nasty, cowardly people hide
> > behind the internet and pseudonyms.
> >
> > Kerre.
>
> So view the message headers, find who the ISP is and use the complaint
> address you'll find there.
> If they do nothing or if nothing happens you -can- take the matter
> further in law.
How can she "take the matter further in law"? Nothing Kerre ohoWmad
wrote was out of character with what Kerre Woodham has said or written
for many years.
>
> The laws of libel and slander work on the Net just as they do in other
> media.
Kerre ohoWmad's words and attitudes are those of Kerre Woodham
herself. Throwing your own words back in your face is neither libel
nor slander. Your advice to her is worthless.
E. Scrooge
"Kerre" <ke...@newstalkzb.co.nz> wrote in message
news:d5ee5540-7e00-4d08...@x6g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
Kerre Woodham
"somebody" could've at least told you not to post an unaltered email address
into the group. At least it's only a ZB email address that the spambots
will probably get to harvester.
Geopelia a very well known personality in this group could tell you all
about being spammed after posting un altered email addresses in the group.
At least your obvious impostor knew a lot better than to post one of your
proper email addresses.
A media personality stated today it's pretty poor that someone can get away
with speaking badly of the character of a dead victim in a court of law,
asking if this is what we can expect to see happen in future court cases as
well. What the Judge has allowed Weatherston to claim about the dead victim
in a court of law is far worse than what has happened in this thread.
E. Scrooge
ChristianKnight
Maybe she was provoked whatever the guy stabed her 200 times probably
a responce to all the crime programs on Tv however that does not
justify him using a weapon on a women.
He should grabed her wrist spun her around and tossed her out of his
house.Better yet he should have left the houyse himself come back when
she was gone and rung an all night lock smith to change the locks. The
guy should spend at least 30 years in jail with no parole. Women
should stay with their husband and remain faithful out of love not the
threat of ther justice system giving a tick to 200 stabing. They were
not married and she was sleeping with other guys he could have just
walked away.
They were both to blame buthe went way to far.
and such a horrific act requires a suitabler sentence.
Chnrist's love
E. Scrooge
"ChristianKnight" <Christi...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:f375ca4f-34fb-45dc...@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
It didn't happen in his house he went to the victim's mother's house where
the victim lived stabbing the victim over 200 times and mutilating her.
He didn't have to go anywhere near her house but your God probably
encouraged him to.
E. Scrooge
ChristianKnight
*)> wrote:
> "ChristianKnight" <ChristianKni...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Then they should lock him up and throw away the key.
Christ's love
ChristianKnight
>
> - Show quoted text -
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/education/news/article.cfm?c_id=35&objectid=10551300
If thats you, your quite pretty.
Christ's love
ChristianKnight
>
> - Show quoted text -
I just watched 5 episodes of enquiring minds.
One on civics one on the importance of music and three others.
I'll go on talk back if your single and take me to dinner.
Christ's love
E. Scrooge
I knew you'd prove why people partly choose not to use real names in here,
going by a couple of your other recent posts in this thread, but you're a
more harmless idiot than some round here.
There's every chance that a fool like you could end up with your own radio
show. The talk-crap half hour hosted by CK of Toss-a-lot.
Locking Weatherston up for life is too good for that bastard. Nailing him
to a cross would seem a lot more fitting and right up your alley.
It's one of the very few murder cases where the death penalty would be well
justified as there's no doubt what so ever that Weatherston did it and that
it was a very deliberate cold blooded murder.
E. Scrooge
Geopelia
Bruce Emery is a decent citizen and some people (including me) think he was
quite right in what he did.
Provocation should have got him off.
I've got no intention of ever "stabing" anybody, CK, but suppose some clown
decides to provoke me?
victor
Are you crazy ?
You think stabbing a 15 year old to death with your kitchen knife is
right ????????
You are desperately fucked in the head.
A _L_ P
aborted, but since he wasn't there was no ideal answer. At least at age
15 with any luck he hadn't reproduced. Bruce Emery acted as a Friend of
Darwin.
A L P
victor
He acted like a dick, he was probably only intending to scare the kid,
so there are two families devastated by a tragic nistake and you two old
biddies think its the right thing to do.
John Cawston
The trouble with old biggies is they have neither the time or the
tears to waste on the broken arsed. They prefer to leave the
wailing to you.
Carry on.
JC
E. Scrooge
"Geopelia" <phil...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:h3ee6c$eqr$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Emery and Veitch have nothing to do with the Clayton Weatherston murderer.
E. Scrooge
A _L_ P
No, not the "right" - which implies the one and only correct - thing to
do, we just don't mind that it happened. Feel free to be distraught
about the boy's fate, we don't insist that you share our lack of concern
that in an overpopulated world there's one fewer waste of skin.
A L P
ChristianKnight
Hes admited he went their to insult her returning her presents.
His words were to insult.
Going to someones house to insult them is provocation for a defensive
assult.
And I have not heard he has a witness to her assult for all we know he
could have picked up the scissors from the dresser himself. If I went
to a persons house and they ran at me with scissors aftewr I had just
insulted them I would get out as soon as possible. He had her neck he
could have thrown her against the wall and dashed. No need to slice
her like a paper doll.
The guy is evil and shoulod be locked away so he never repeats his
crime.
Christ's love
Geopelia
"E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz (sling replaces *)> wrote in message
news:h3emfc$hab$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Of course not, but some people seem to be lumping them in together.
Geopelia
I don't get much spam now. Just plenty of people wanting to give me millions
of dollars!
Trendmicro stops most of it.
But I think the spammers know I won't take the bait and have given up on me.
Geopelia
Deb McLeod-Morris
I would love for you to say this to her family
galleria
> NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad wrote:
> > Give me a call tonight, Scrooge. The number is: 0800-801080
>
> How about you state on Radio at 9:00pm tonight that you posted to
> this newsgroup.
>
> You're NOT Woodham. You are Me, Will Spencer, Galleria, Victor,
> vitw, or some other such nutter that haunts this place.
LOL
actually the person you call "galleria" isn't a nutter
it just goes to show you know nothing at all about who
"galleria" really is
but yes there are certainly some real genu-whine nutters posting on
this newsgroup, that is dead cert.
The doco this week about the killing of Sophie
gave a reasonable insight into what a demented predator weatherstone
is.
Such a shame a lovely young woman like Sophie was taken in by such a
whacko,
the University should really have sacked weatherstone as soon as they
got wind of his predator behaviour, he was essentially in breach of
ethics.
"You're obsolete my baby
My poor old-fashioned baby
I said baby, baby, baby you're out of time "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNyAzuB1-rE
galleria
> On Jul 8, 1:58 pm, "NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad"
>
>
>
> <kerreohowmadnewstal...@windowslive.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 8, 12:37 pm, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz (sling replaces
>
> > *)> wrote:
> > > "NewstalkZB's Kerre ohoWmad" <kerreohowmadnewstal...@windowslive.com> wrote
> > > in messagenews:7494262a-7284-45db...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > I've written before about a high-profile knifing (Bruce Emery lashing
> > > > out at a piece of lowlife) and a celebrity
> > > > spine-kicking (my brilliant colleague Tony Veitch lashing out at a
> > > > real pain who just would not leave his
> > > > condominium when he told her to). In both cases, I and my colleagues
> > > > at NewstalkZB weighed the evidence soberly and carefully, and came out
> > > > firmly on the side of the assailants. Our brave and principled stance
> > > > was criticised by the usual assortment of malcontents and
> > > > complainers---you know, the "P.C. brigade". So I have no
> > > > doubt that my following comments will come under criticism from the
> > > > usual suspects. BUT, QUITE FRANKLY MY DEARS, I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S
> > > > BOTTOM.
>
> > > > assured that there's at least ONE
> > > > radio station that's on his side.
>
> > > > Speak to ya tonight, guys!
>
> > > > NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
>
> > > street to politician and stirrers hosting radio talkback shows are entitled
> > > to their opinions, but just remember that doesn't mean that even that the
> > > opinion of the Prime Minister of NZ isn't always right, same with everyone
> > > else's opinions as well.
>
> > I doubt, somehow, that your opinions are as valid as mine. What was
> > the name of your show again?
>
> > > If we look at what your post is really about, it's all about trying to get
> > > more suckers to waste their time to support your biased weak minded stirring
> > > up controversial talkback show.
>
> > > The real result of your post is to not bother with the biased dictating
> > > NewstalkZB at all imo.
>
> > Nobody dictates to the hosts at NewstalkZB how we think. For instance,
> > a year ago, when every single host on NewstalkZB decided to "go after"
> > Kristin Dunne-Powell, it was strictly on the basis of having assessed
> > the evidence against her. We all decided, quite independently, that
> > the evidence against Tony did not stand up to scrutiny, and that KDP
> > was orchestrating (or at least participating in) a witch-hunt against
> > a decent man.
>
> > > You claim that she deserved to be stabbed over a two hundred times and to
> > > have her body mutilasted
>
> > "Mutilasted"? Perhaps you might like to try that one again...
>
> > > claiming that it was all her fault.
> > > Fact is she broke off the relationship, and was about to start a new job in
> > > another city. He went to her home, she didn't go to his home in order to
> > > attack him.
> > > I put to you that you never actually saw any attack involving the dead
> > > victim with a pair of scissors against Weatherston at all and there's no
> > > police evidence of charges against her to support such a claim.
>
> > > Many media personalties are far better than your loud mouth mate Veitch ever
> > > was. Peter Williams and many other sports media people have earned much
> > > more respect than any loud mouth fool ever will.
>
> > > Everyone posts in here on equal terms. Good respected people from Tom Scott
> > > to the producer of Shortland Street have never had a problem coming in here
> > > to take part on equal levels in any discussions.
>
> > > Of course you don't give a rat's arse. Such a well mannered rat like
> > > yourself can't afford to go round giving your arse away. Quite frankly your
> > > stirring in here to try to help your failing talkback nonsense has come
> > > completely unstuck and deserves to lose more radio talkback listeners than
> > > ever. It's not everyone that gets to hear from a talking rat though LOL.
>
> > Give me a call tonight, Scrooge. The number is: 0800-801080
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> justifiable manslaughter .
> If a man goes to his GF house with a knife as she is preparing to
> leave town. And butchers her.
> It is murder.
> A bit of agro between couples doesn’t justify the actions this lowlife
> took.
> The question you should be asking
> Is why do woman get attached to f..wit guys let alone bred with them.
It certainly makes one wonder doesn't it.
No doubt there will be some other woman out there who will start
writing to Weatherstone in jail and hook up with him, you hear about
that a lot these days, women with nothing better going on in their
lives than strike up relationships with predatory monsters doing jail
time.
Sophie was such a lovely young woman, with a beautiful family.
galleria
> On Jul 10, 12:10 am, A _L_ P <hay.hell....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Kerrewrote:
> > >> On Jul 8, 2:18 pm, John Cawston <rewar...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > >>> bugalugs wrote:
> > >>>> NewstalkZB'sKerreohoWmadwrote:
> > >>>>> out at a piece of lowlife) and a celebrity
> > >>>>> spine-kicking (my brilliant colleague Tony Veitch lashing out at a
> > >>>>> real pain who just would not leave his
> > >>>>> condominium when he told her to). In both cases, I and my colleagues
> > >>>>> at NewstalkZB weighed the evidence soberly and carefully, and came out
> > >>>>> firmly on the side of the assailants. Our brave and principled stance
> > >>>>> was criticised by the usual assortment of malcontents and
> > >>>>> complainers---you know, the "P.C. brigade". So I have no
> > >>>>> doubt that my following comments will come under criticism from the
> > >>>>> usual suspects. BUT, QUITE FRANKLY MY DEARS, I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S
> > >>>>> BOTTOM.
> > >>>>> assured that there's at least ONE
> > >>>>> radio station that's on his side.
> > >>>>> Speak to ya tonight, guys!
> > >>>>> NewstalkZB. Tune Your Mind.
> > >>>> knife before he had it in his hand. If the knife was kept in the kitchen
> > >>>> and he took it into the room with him, or went back and got it, he's a
> > >>>> goner. Premeditated.
> > >>>> Anything else is windowdressing aimed at sympathy.
> > >>> You are responding to a troll
> > >>> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > feelings about this trial but I am unable to express them publicly
> > > because of sub judice rules. I am disappointed that some coward feels
> > > the need to hide behind my name and identity. I don't mind criticism
> > > - even downright abuse! - when it's made openly and to my face (or my
> > > ear, if people are phoning me on air) - but this sort of craven
> > > nastiness epitomises the very worst of the internet. Sorry for
> > > crashing your group, but somebody sent me the link and I had to
> > > respond.
>
>
> > I don't think anyone with a brain - admittedly that excludes a few on
> > this newsgroup - thought it was from you. It was obviously a spoofed
> > address intended to *suggest* you but most people here would, I think,
> > decode it and read the post as a piss-take. Being too lazy to shift the
> > radio dial national programme setting I missed the personal grudge
> > aspect. I was surprised to see a few people take it seriously - dunno
> > why, I've been here long enough to expect some people to be chronically
> > bumfusticated on any topic you could name.
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> troll? I don't mind having to defend my viewpoints, no matter how
> misinformed/anodyne/offensive they may be to others. But to have
> people think I would be the author of something so offensive - and
> poorly written - is inexcusable. Snide, nasty, cowardly people hide
> behind the internet and pseudonyms.
>
> Kerre.
Aint that the truth, snide, nasty, cowardly pretty much sums up
newsgroups.
Trouble is most posters on newsgroups actually know each other,
so if you befriend any one of'm you run the risk of letting snide,
nasty crap into your life
eeeeuuuwww...yuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNyAzuB1-rE&feature=related
Gin Wigmore