Myanmar or Burma
Roger Dewhurst
Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma, the
capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show our
contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names. Take
note TVNZ and RNZ.
R
whoisthis
Roger Dewhurst <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
Perhaps a threat to boycott the Olympics may give China the hint they
should apply a shit load of pressure to allow Aid and Aid workers in.
Pooh
Chinas got nothing to do with it! We're talking about BURMA! Not Tibet
(which has only been devestated by cyclone China) :O)
Pooh
whoisthis
"Pooh" <Don'tvote...@leaveusalone.free> wrote:
China has a LOT of influence in Burma.
Tilly
Really?
China is trying to prevent the UN from applying pressure on the Generals to
let aid and aid workers into Burma.
ChristianKnight
> ::: Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
> :::
> :::: Why should we use the the names chosen by this despotic government?
> :::: Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma,
> :::: the capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show
> :::: our contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names.
> :::: Take note TVNZ and RNZ.
> ::::
> :::: R
> :::
> ::: Perhaps a threat to boycott the Olympics may give China the hint
> ::: they should apply a shit load of pressure to allow Aid and Aid
> ::: workers in.
> ::
> :: Chinas got nothing to do with it! We're talking about BURMA! Not
> :: Tibet (which has only been devestated by cyclone China) :O)
> ::
> :: Pooh
>
> Really?
> China is trying to prevent the UN from applying pressure on the Generals to
> let aid and aid workers into Burma.
>
> --
They maybe afraid the UN aid workers create hatred propergander that
leads to a revolution and mnay believe the aid totally unessasary and
that they have the entire situation under control.
Maybe the nations giving aid shall give the Burmese Government total
distribution responcibilities to sway their acceptance.
Christ's love
texan....usenet@texas...removethisbit.usacom
Are they members of the UN.
If so, what is the accepted UN name?
Cath
Fred
"Roger Dewhurst" <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
news:g03ee6$ve2$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
I notice a couple of radio announcers still call it Burma and the capital
Rangoon. and refuse to use the uneccessary new names. I'm more concerned
with the ridiculous push to change the common name of New Zealand to
Aotearoa. That's the next thing on Labour's agenda.
Miche
texan....usenet@texas...removethisbit.usacom.. wrote:
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:13:30 +1200, Roger Dewhurst <dewh...@wave.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> >Why should we use the the names chosen by this despotic government?
> >Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma, the
> >capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show our
> >contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names. Take
> >note TVNZ and RNZ.
> Are they members of the UN.
> If so, what is the accepted UN name?
The BBC's explanation of why it uses Burma:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7013943.stm
Miche
--
Electricians do it in three phases
sam
What could be more common sense than being named after a Dutch bog after
all ?
Tilly
<clipped>
:
: They maybe afraid the UN aid workers create hatred propergander that
: leads to a revolution and mnay believe the aid totally unessasary and
: that they have the entire situation under control.
: Maybe the nations giving aid shall give the Burmese Government total
: distribution responcibilities to sway their acceptance.
: Christ's love
The Burmese Government is corrupt.
No way should money and aid be given to the Generals ,who will distribute
most of it amongst themselves and their supporters.The care little for the
lives of ordinary Burmese people , they are concerned with maintaining their
stranglehold on power.
Miche
wrote:
The Burmese government shouldn't be trusted to run a bath, let alone a
country. They're corrupt, violent and totalitarian.
Pooh
I missed that bit of the report Tilly. My bad.
Pooh
Tilly
<clipped>
: They maybe afraid the UN aid workers create hatred propergander that
: leads to a revolution and mnay believe the aid totally unessasary and
: that they have the entire situation under control.
: Maybe the nations giving aid shall give the Burmese Government total
: distribution responcibilities to sway their acceptance.
: Christ's love
This is what happens when aid is supposed to be distributed by the militart
junta in Burma.
Vital aid trucks to help cyclone victims were driven to a pagoda ... and
abandoned
By SIMON PARRY - Behind the bamboo curtain of one of the world's most brutal
regimes, I watched yesterday as Burma's military rulers grudgingly allowed
the first international aid trucks into their cyclone-ravaged country - then
displayed their contempt for their suffering people by grounding the
life-saving cargo just two miles inside their border.
In an appalling display of the regime's warped priorities that no one was
meant to see, I witnessed armed soldiers marshal a sham referendum to keep
the junta in power, rather than lift a finger to give their own dying people
the aid they so desperately need..................................
But the moment the trucks were out of sight of the border post, the true
importance that the junta attached to the delivery became ominously
apparent, as they were directed off the main road and along a two-mile dirt
track to a semi-deserted monastery and pagoda.
As our taxi bumped along in a cloud of dust behind the trucks, I still
expected to find army lorries and soldiers ready to unload the cargo and
take it to the cyclone-hit communities.
Surely even the most xenophobic regime could not pass up the chance to save
lives once the tools to do so were in its hands.
But underestimating the junta's ability to appal is always a mistake.
There were no soldiers and no trucks at the monastery, just a languid,
uninterested young major and two junior soldiers.
I watched as they casually waved the trucks to parking bays without even
looking to see what they contained, then ambled back to a reception area to
resume the card playing and tea drinking that had been so rudely
interrupted.
From the end of the driveway, I watched to see when the relief operation
would begin. But nothing happened, just elderly monks and casually-dressed
government officials wandering around, seeming to ignore the UN
trucks..................
Two miles from where the aid trucks stood, scores of rifle-toting soldiers
were patrolling five polling stations after a week in which the generals'
attention has been diverted from the cyclone tragedy by its determination to
secure a "yes" vote for the junta.
Burma's deeply superstitious leader, 75-year-old General Than Shwe, refused
to delay the referendum - which will ensure that the military hold a veto
after elections are held in 2010 - in all but the worst-hit areas after
being told by his astrologer that May 10 was an auspicious date.
The few Myawaddy townspeople brave enough to risk arrest by speaking to me
said the heavy army presence was meant to intimidate people into voting
"yes".
"Everyone is watched and anyone who votes 'no' has been told they will be
thrown in prison on Sunday morning," a market trader said.
Every polling station was deserted except for the heavy security presence,
weary citizens preferring to ignore the referendum rather than back the
regime or risk arrest with a "no" vote.
"There are thousands of soldiers in Myawaddy and many military trucks that
could transport the aid," a 51-year-old restaurant owner told me bitterly.
"But this regime does not care about saving people. They only care about
saving themselves." .............
Full article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=565465&in_page_id=1811
texan....usenet@texas...removethisbit.usacom
Ahhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo...
I struck a hic=cup several years ago when doing an advanced airline exam.
The one where you have to manually calculate international air tickets using BOOKS [in case the CRS
is down lol].
One sector came up with RGA or whatever it was which I knew was the IATA code for Rangoon but I
wasn't aware of the change from Burma to the other name.
I called the moderator over and said, knowing he couldn't advise me, that I knew the code as Rangoon
but did not recognise the country name and was going with my gut instinct which fortunately in the
end, turned out to be right.
Kiribati was another one I got hic-cupped on another time!
If we were to look at a map of today's world v maps when we were in school, I wouldn't recognise a
lot of them especially in AFrica!
No, no, no to changing New Zealand to Aoteroa..NO...
Cath
Roger Dewhurst
Name changing is merely a symptom of a gross political inferiority complex.
R
>
> Cath
>
Mutlley
-Newsman-
wrote:
>Roger Dewhurst <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>
>>Why should we use the the names chosen by this despotic government?
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...."
>>Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma, the
>>capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show our
>>contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names.
As a squeaking mouse may hope to be heard from the other side of the
world.
>>Take note TVNZ and RNZ.
>>
>
>At 3 News and the NZ Gov to that. I prefer Burma myself..
From "The Union of Burma", given by the *English*. The current régime
has simply reverted to the historical name which is derived from the
local short-form name Myanma Naingngandaw.
In Burmese, the name Myanma (or Mranma Prań) has been used since the
13th century. (Wikipedia)
ChristianKnight
You seem to lock in to the warmongering racist side and wont lodge.
Typical Tilly Tattooo behaiviour.
Christ's love
Jason Rumney
wrote:
> Are they members of the UN.
> If so, what is the accepted UN name?
Myanmar. Only the UK and US have refused to recognize the name change.
Roger Dewhurst
Do the Swedes get their knickers in a twist when others fail to call
their country Sverige, the Dutch when we call their country Holland, the
Germans when we do not call their country Deutchland, do the Brits get
pissed off when the Germans call the country whatever they do.
Name changes are symptomatic of tin-pot countries with inferiority
complexes. Why should we not continue to call Sri Lanka Ceylon,
Zimbabwe Southern Rhodesia, etc etc.
Let us hope that this half arsed government that we have will not do
something similarly stupid.
Rich80105
Who other than yourself have suggested a name change Roger?
-Newsman-
And who other than Roger has his knickers in a twist on an issue that
only Roger himself has constructed?
JohnO
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:34:02 +1200, Roger Dewhurst
>
>
>
> <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
> >-Newsman- wrote:
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >>>> Why should we use the the names chosen by this despotic government?
>
> >> "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...."
>
> >>>> Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma, the
> >>>> capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show our
> >>>> contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names.
>
> >> As a squeaking mouse may hope to be heard from the other side of the
> >> world.
>
> >>>> Take note TVNZ and RNZ.
>
> >>> At 3 News and the NZ Gov to that. I prefer Burma myself..
>
> >> From "The Union of Burma", given by the *English*. The current régime
> >> has simply reverted to the historical name which is derived from the
> >> local short-form name Myanma Naingngandaw.
>
> >> 13th century. (Wikipedia)
>
> >Do the Swedes get their knickers in a twist when others fail to call
> >their country Sverige, the Dutch when we call their country Holland, the
> >Germans when we do not call their country Deutchland, do the Brits get
> >pissed off when the Germans call the country whatever they do.
>
> >Name changes are symptomatic of tin-pot countries with inferiority
> >complexes. Why should we not continue to call Sri Lanka Ceylon,
> >Zimbabwe Southern Rhodesia, etc etc.
>
> >Let us hope that this half arsed government that we have will not do
> >something similarly stupid.
>
> Who other than yourself have suggested a name change Roger?
I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find people who would like
'New Zealand' dropped altogether in favour of 'Aotearoa'.
Roger Dewhurst
> On May 13, 11:08 am, Rich80105 wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:34:02 +1200, Roger Dewhurst
>>
>>
>>
>> <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>>> -Newsman- wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:56:11 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> Why should we use the the names chosen by this despotic government?
>>>> "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...."
>>>>>> Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma, the
>>>>>> capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show our
>>>>>> contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names.
>>>> As a squeaking mouse may hope to be heard from the other side of the
>>>> world.
>>>>>> Take note TVNZ and RNZ.
>>>>> At 3 News and the NZ Gov to that. I prefer Burma myself..
>>>> From "The Union of Burma", given by the *English*. The current régime
>>>> has simply reverted to the historical name which is derived from the
>>>> local short-form name Myanma Naingngandaw.
>>>> 13th century. (Wikipedia)
>>> Do the Swedes get their knickers in a twist when others fail to call
>>> their country Sverige, the Dutch when we call their country Holland, the
>>> Germans when we do not call their country Deutchland, do the Brits get
>>> pissed off when the Germans call the country whatever they do.
>>> Name changes are symptomatic of tin-pot countries with inferiority
>>> complexes. Why should we not continue to call Sri Lanka Ceylon,
>>> Zimbabwe Southern Rhodesia, etc etc.
>>> Let us hope that this half arsed government that we have will not do
>>> something similarly stupid.
>> Who other than yourself have suggested a name change Roger?
>
> I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find people who would like
> 'New Zealand' dropped altogether in favour of 'Aotearoa'.
Rich, Dooley and Newsman for example?
R
Roger Dewhurst
Somebody must be first. Perhaps you single brain cell was not
sufficient to figure that out?
R
JohnO
> JohnO wrote:
> > On May 13, 11:08 am, Rich80105 wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:34:02 +1200, Roger Dewhurst
>
> >> <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
> >>> -Newsman- wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:56:11 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2...@hotmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>> Why should we use the the names chosen by this despotic government?
> >>>> "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...."
> >>>>>> Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma, the
> >>>>>> capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show our
> >>>>>> contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names.
> >>>> As a squeaking mouse may hope to be heard from the other side of the
> >>>> world.
> >>>>>> Take note TVNZ and RNZ.
> >>>>> At 3 News and the NZ Gov to that. I prefer Burma myself..
> >>>> From "The Union of Burma", given by the *English*. The current régime
> >>>> has simply reverted to the historical name which is derived from the
> >>>> local short-form name Myanma Naingngandaw.
> >>>> 13th century. (Wikipedia)
> >>> Do the Swedes get their knickers in a twist when others fail to call
> >>> their country Sverige, the Dutch when we call their country Holland, the
> >>> Germans when we do not call their country Deutchland, do the Brits get
> >>> pissed off when the Germans call the country whatever they do.
> >>> Name changes are symptomatic of tin-pot countries with inferiority
> >>> complexes. Why should we not continue to call Sri Lanka Ceylon,
> >>> Zimbabwe Southern Rhodesia, etc etc.
> >>> Let us hope that this half arsed government that we have will not do
> >>> something similarly stupid.
> >> Who other than yourself have suggested a name change Roger?
>
> > I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find people who would like
> > 'New Zealand' dropped altogether in favour of 'Aotearoa'.
>
> Rich, Dooley and Newsman for example?
>
I was thinking more the likes of Tariana Turia.
-Newsman-
Brian Dooley
>On May 13, 4:37 pm, Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>> JohnO wrote:
>> > On May 13, 11:08 am, Rich80105 wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:34:02 +1200, Roger Dewhurst
>>
>> >> <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>> >>> -Newsman- wrote:
>> >>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:56:11 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2...@hotmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Why should we use the the names chosen by this despotic government?
>> >>>> "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...."
>> >>>>>> Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma, the
>> >>>>>> capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show our
>> >>>>>> contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names.
>> >>>> As a squeaking mouse may hope to be heard from the other side of the
>> >>>> world.
>> >>>>>> Take note TVNZ and RNZ.
>> >>>>> At 3 News and the NZ Gov to that. I prefer Burma myself..
>> >>>> From "The Union of Burma", given by the *English*. The current régime
>> >>>> has simply reverted to the historical name which is derived from the
>> >>>> local short-form name Myanma Naingngandaw.
>> >>>> In Burmese, the name Myanma (or Mranma Prań) has been used since the
>> >>>> 13th century. (Wikipedia)
>> >>> Do the Swedes get their knickers in a twist when others fail to call
>> >>> their country Sverige, the Dutch when we call their country Holland, the
>> >>> Germans when we do not call their country Deutchland, do the Brits get
>> >>> pissed off when the Germans call the country whatever they do.
>> >>> Name changes are symptomatic of tin-pot countries with inferiority
>> >>> complexes. Why should we not continue to call Sri Lanka Ceylon,
>> >>> Zimbabwe Southern Rhodesia, etc etc.
>> >>> Let us hope that this half arsed government that we have will not do
>> >>> something similarly stupid.
>> >> Who other than yourself have suggested a name change Roger?
>>
>> > I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find people who would like
>> > 'New Zealand' dropped altogether in favour of 'Aotearoa'.
>>
>> Rich, Dooley and Newsman for example?
>>
>
>I was thinking more the likes of Tariana Turia.
There are a number of objections to changing the name and one in
favour - at the Olympics or similar, where the teams march on in
alpha order, NZ would be near the front instead of near the back.
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington New Zealand
Nicolaas Hawkins
Who cares? It's all "Rah! - Rah! - Rhubarb!" anyway.
--
- Nic.
Pooh
Are people still interested in the Olympic games?
Pooh
A_ L _P
> Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:54:59 +1200, Brian Dooley
>> <bri...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in
>> <news:njli241jedl1ga7s7...@4ax.com>:
>>> There are a number of objections to changing the name and one in
>>> favour - at the Olympics or similar, where the teams march on in
>>> alpha order, NZ would be near the front instead of near the back.
>> Who cares? It's all "Rah! - Rah! - Rhubarb!" anyway.
>
> Are people still interested in the Olympic games?
Oath, I'm so excited I yawned till I dislocated my jaw.
A L P
JohnO
> Pooh wrote:
> > Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:54:59 +1200, Brian Dooley
> >> <news:njli241jedl1ga7s7...@4ax.com>:
> >>> There are a number of objections to changing the name and one in
> >>> favour - at the Olympics or similar, where the teams march on in
> >>> alpha order, NZ would be near the front instead of near the back.
> >> Who cares? It's all "Rah! - Rah! - Rhubarb!" anyway.
>
> > Are people still interested in the Olympic games?
>
> Oath, I'm so excited I yawned till I dislocated my jaw.
>
> A L P
Come on Agnes - it's exciting! Who will be the first to fail a drugs
test? Which judge will be found to have been bribed? Who's the most
corrupt IOC delegate? Will the Chinese set a new world record for
homeless person evictions? So mutch to anticipate, I can't wait!
A_ L _P
Oh all right. But I'm not sitting in front of the TV for hours on end
waiting. You can post the highlights and links here and I promise I'll
read them.
:-)
A L P
Pooh
I'll subscribe to that service :-)
Pooh
Rich80105
wrote:
>On May 13, 11:08 am, Rich80105 wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:34:02 +1200, Roger Dewhurst
>>
>>
>>
>> <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>> >-Newsman- wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:56:11 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2...@hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> >>>> Why should we use the the names chosen by this despotic government?
>>
>> >> "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...."
>>
>> >>>> Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma, the
>> >>>> capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show our
>> >>>> contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names.
>>
>> >> As a squeaking mouse may hope to be heard from the other side of the
>> >> world.
>>
>> >>>> Take note TVNZ and RNZ.
>>
>> >>> At 3 News and the NZ Gov to that. I prefer Burma myself..
>>
>> >> From "The Union of Burma", given by the *English*. The current régime
>> >> has simply reverted to the historical name which is derived from the
>> >> local short-form name Myanma Naingngandaw.
>>
>> >> In Burmese, the name Myanma (or Mranma Prań) has been used since the
>> >> 13th century. (Wikipedia)
>>
>> >Do the Swedes get their knickers in a twist when others fail to call
>> >their country Sverige, the Dutch when we call their country Holland, the
>> >Germans when we do not call their country Deutchland, do the Brits get
>> >pissed off when the Germans call the country whatever they do.
>>
>> >Name changes are symptomatic of tin-pot countries with inferiority
>> >complexes. Why should we not continue to call Sri Lanka Ceylon,
>> >Zimbabwe Southern Rhodesia, etc etc.
>>
>> >Let us hope that this half arsed government that we have will not do
>> >something similarly stupid.
>>
>> Who other than yourself have suggested a name change Roger?
>
>I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find people who would like
>'New Zealand' dropped altogether in favour of 'Aotearoa'.
Yourself JohnO? Or Roger Dewhurst? I don't know anyone else who
thinks that.
JohnO
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:26:09 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On May 13, 11:08 am, Rich80105 wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:34:02 +1200, Roger Dewhurst
>
> >> <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
> >> >-Newsman- wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:56:11 +1200, Mutlley <mutley2...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >>> Roger Dewhurst <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >> >>>> Why should we use the the names chosen by this despotic government?
>
> >> >> "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...."
>
> >> >>>> Most of the civilized world still refers the the country as Burma, the
> >> >>>> capital as Rangoon and the river as the Irrawaddy. Let us show our
> >> >>>> contempt for the military thugs by reverting to the old names.
>
> >> >> As a squeaking mouse may hope to be heard from the other side of the
> >> >> world.
>
> >> >>>> Take note TVNZ and RNZ.
>
> >> >>> At 3 News and the NZ Gov to that. I prefer Burma myself..
>
> >> >> From "The Union of Burma", given by the *English*. The current régime
> >> >> has simply reverted to the historical name which is derived from the
> >> >> local short-form name Myanma Naingngandaw.
>
> >> >> 13th century. (Wikipedia)
>
> >> >Do the Swedes get their knickers in a twist when others fail to call
> >> >their country Sverige, the Dutch when we call their country Holland, the
> >> >Germans when we do not call their country Deutchland, do the Brits get
> >> >pissed off when the Germans call the country whatever they do.
>
> >> >Name changes are symptomatic of tin-pot countries with inferiority
> >> >complexes. Why should we not continue to call Sri Lanka Ceylon,
> >> >Zimbabwe Southern Rhodesia, etc etc.
>
> >> >Let us hope that this half arsed government that we have will not do
> >> >something similarly stupid.
>
> >> Who other than yourself have suggested a name change Roger?
>
> >I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find people who would like
> >'New Zealand' dropped altogether in favour of 'Aotearoa'.
>
> Yourself JohnO? Or Roger Dewhurst? I don't know anyone else who
> thinks that.
You know, you really are quite a simpleton.
Pooh
Is he that smart?
Pooh
JohnO
Well, I was trying to be kind to Richbot, if a little cruel to
simpletons.
Rich80105
<dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
Why do you think it is a good idea, and do you know of anyone taht
would support it. (Personally I think it stupid).