Hello All
shyte...@yahoo.com
a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
Go Home," when someone hears my accent. Thanks in advance for your
replies.
Linda
TOE
<shyte...@yahoo.com>
A real Texan would have written "Howdy All."
You must be a sockpuppet.
-TOE
> Linda
B.T.M.O.
<> wrote
Americans are very welcome here.
I have worked with a couple of Texans, and they both loved the country and
the people.
You will have a ball in NZ.
Cheers,
Brenton (an Australian - living in NZ)
Sue Bilstein
wrote:
Expect a bit of good-natured teasing.
TomV
Few have problems with Americans, or any nationality per se. YOu may
get some stick about your countries foreign policy, but few blame
individuals for the actions of their government.
In NZ anti-American tends to be hurled at anyone who dares to question
the foreign policy of the current US adminsitration
..tom
Geoff McCaughan
You're more likely to run into antipathy to the American government than the
American people.
--
Burn the land and boil the sea,
You can't take the sky from me.
B.T.M.O.
"Sue Bilstein" <> wrote
> >You will have a ball in NZ.
> >
>
> Expect a bit of good-natured teasing.
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;-)
E. Scrooge
<shyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Do you plan on posting racist Nazi views like Cath and Tarla?
I must be new to these groups. When exactly has anyone said "Yankee Go
Home"?
Ask yourself if you agree with all other Americans just because they're
American. If you have been reading these posts for a while, you'd know by
now that not all New Zealanders agree with each other just because they are
also New Zealanders.
E. Scrooge
Sue Bilstein
(*sling)> wrote:
><shyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:486e07f5.0406...@posting.google.com...
>> I have been reading and enjoying your posts for sometime. Now I have
>> a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
>> of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
>> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
>> Go Home," when someone hears my accent. Thanks in advance for your
>> replies.
>>
>> Linda
>
>Do you plan on posting racist Nazi views like Cath and Tarla?
Pardon ???
E. Scrooge
"B.T.M.O." <bt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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LOL
It's only Cath doing some Trolling. Everyone knows that the population of
Texas is 1 - just Cath.
Very amusing little post though. To see if people are anti her or are they
anti anyone from Texas.
Reasons?
The original post definitely wasn't done by a shy person, and Cath is not a
shy person.
E. Scrooge
E. Scrooge
"Sue Bilstein" <sue_bi...@yahoop.com> wrote in message
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Tarla doesn't believe that Indians in a workplace should be allowed to speak
in their own language while having lunch.
They should either have their tongues cut out or speak to each other in the
company broom closet. Their own little room once the broom has been removed
from it first.
The biggest worry for the guy running the company is that if the Indian
workers should realise they're working for a lot less pay than the English
speaking workers are. By having them speak English he'll know if they
realise that he's cheating them like he most like is.
E. Scrooge
annemarie
A true cross section. I don't think so. There are some real extreamists in
this ng.
Anti American feeling. I think (as others have said) that you will find
Anti American Policy, and maybe even some mass culture (TV and such) but
Anti American Individual, very seldom.
However New Zealanders do have a strong sense of humour and could have a bit
of fun at your expense, but just laugh along.
A
Sue Bilstein
(*sling)> wrote:
>"Sue Bilstein" <sue_bi...@yahoop.com> wrote in message
>news:jh44e0prm06mnk982...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:02:42 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
>> (*sling)> wrote:
>> ><shyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:486e07f5.0406...@posting.google.com...
>> >> I have been reading and enjoying your posts for sometime. Now I have
>> >> a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
>> >> of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
>> >> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
>> >> Go Home," when someone hears my accent. Thanks in advance for your
>> >> replies.
>> >>
>> >> Linda
>> >
>> >Do you plan on posting racist Nazi views like Cath and Tarla?
>>
>> Pardon ???
>
>Tarla doesn't believe that Indians in a workplace should be allowed to speak
>in their own language while having lunch.
>They should either have their tongues cut out or speak to each other in the
Yeah, I thought it was something like that.
Just that I don't think calling a person a racist is a particularly
funny joke. Having recently been called a racist in earnest by
Ashley, Baglow and Ashby.
E. Scrooge
Calling someone something means nothing unless the shoe actually fits.
Tarla has tried on that very shoe in several posts. Tarla has made it quite
clear that she doesn't believe people shouldn't be in the same room as
others unless they speak in English only. And Tarla isn't joking about it
not one bit.
E. Scrooge
steve
People in NZ are rarely "anti-American".
On the other hand, large numbers will be anti-Bush....because he lies and
people die. is own people (almost 900 so far) and thousands of others.
If you want to be the center of attention, talk loudly about how much you
admire him (if you do).
This very clear distinction between America the country - and the idiot
murderer in the White House - is a critical one.
Some here like to ignore it and pretend that anyone who objects to Bush's
lies and his casual killing of thousands is somehow "anti-American".
It's wrong, of course....and they are being just as dishonest as Bush when
they try to claim otherwise.
steve
> In NZ anti-American tends to be hurled at anyone who dares to question
> the foreign policy of the current US adminsitration
>
> ..tom
Agreed....
JJ Williams
> a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
> of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)?
If you stock up before you leave with a good supply of maple sugar candy
(<drool>) and distribute it generously you are sure to be immensely popular
whatever your views.
J
E. Scrooge
"Col:" <C...@xtra.con> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:34:02 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
> --
>
> Col
Not much you don't see even when the wool is over your little eyes. Still,
never mind eh? It's not as if it's any of your damn business as if you're
actually making a living from watching what goes on in the groups.
Not much chance of you actually adding anything to the topic while you're at
it as usual I couldn't help but notice.
E. Scrooge
Col's law.
Tossed lawn clippings..
E. Scrooge
"Col:" <C...@xtra.con> wrote in message
> >news:486e07f5.0406...@posting.google.com...
> >> I have been reading and enjoying your posts for sometime. Now I have
> >> a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
> >> of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
> >> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
> >> Go Home," when someone hears my accent. Thanks in advance for your
> >> replies.
> >>
> >> Linda
> >
>
>
> >Home"?
>
"Yankee Go
> Home" as the phrase was "someone hears my accent", and not on the
newsgroups.
> There is a life apart from the newsgroups. I thought you wouldn't have
forgotten
> that but perhaps I am wrong .
> --
>
> Col
By God what the Hell would we do without you?
LOL
I still find it very hard to believe that you gave up a very good life in
Tibet with the other Monks, just so that you could be here to share your
great wisdom of the world amongst us, Dalai Colama.
Pô-ą-D-BïPÅ-PP-xÛž-ūôG-hGôÅ-,ãP-ŧôh-q-žïhü
{}ü?üzôh-žP-BôPÅ-ŋYôPÅ-ļïž-zšÛ-ŋe-Į+ôž-ąôGÅ-VßP-YÛG-mÅ-Dï-ĪÛ;-uÛ-ĪfÞm-Mū-Dz-
^Û-ÁïÅ-Iôū-ąôÅ-šDôž-JĀÛP-hGôm-qž-ąßū-ĪÛm-HÛ-hGôÅ-šhÝm-zbôm-qž-zdïm-Dô-q-ąôž-
Pô-ą-D-BïPÅ-zļôÅ-qšÛ-GmÅ-ąßū-YÛG-fôm-ŧôh-šhÝG
http://www.tibet.net/tibfreedom/
Latest news from the Tibetan Freedom newspaper for you, sport... Dalai
Colama.
(notice the link to save you from searching for it)
E. Scrooge
Col range.
The more fuel the hotter it gets..
E. Scrooge
"Col:" <C...@xtra.con> wrote in message
village
> idiot who has I see already spouted crap in this thread . Please note not
all
> NZers are not like Scrooge. Americans are popular here in NZ. I doubt if
you
> will come across much anti-american sentiments unless you rubbish our
rugby team
> in a bar. Just appreciate NZ is a much smaller country than the US and we
do
> have some customs different to those you have in the US . It is nothing
you
> won't be able to handle though. it is usual for a visitor to our country
when
> in a bar pay for the round of drinks for everyone in the bar . This is
called
> "shouting" for some reason.
> Seriously though a lot of Nzer's disagree with the US foreign policies but
it is
> not a biggie .
>
> Enjoy N.Z. It is a wonderful place.
> --
>
> Col
LMAO
Let go of something else and get a grip on reality you poor fool. She's not
actually in NZ, she's still in Texas (at a guess from her post) while taking
part in the newsgroup.
I still think it could be Cath - who will be having a bigger laugh than ever
thanks to you.
"Enjoy N.Z." - as if there's much of it to be seen in nz.general.
LOL
E. Scrooge
Col's law.
The only reality is virtual reality..
Unadulterated Me
> Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
> of your population?
I'm personally not, I am a unique snowflake
A
steve
Maple sugar will be rare in Texas....as sugar maples require at least 1
month / year where the temperature rarely rises above zero derees
Fahrenheit in order for the sap to run when the weather begins to warm.
That ain't texas. :-)
(It takes 100 litres of maple sap to make 1 litre of maple syrup).
Tarla
(*sling)> wrote:
>
><shyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:486e07f5.0406...@posting.google.com...
>> I have been reading and enjoying your posts for sometime. Now I have
>> a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
>> of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
>> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
>> Go Home," when someone hears my accent. Thanks in advance for your
>> replies.
>>
>> Linda
>
>Do you plan on posting racist Nazi views like Cath and Tarla?
Lay off the sauce for a night or two, okay, Scrooge?
--
Tarla
****
Dammit, Jeb, I'm as Amish as the next guy, but if we
don't take out that sub, there won't be a Pennsylvania
to go home TO."
-my son,Eric
Tarla
(*sling)> wrote:
>Tarla doesn't believe that Indians in a workplace should be allowed to speak
>in their own language while having lunch.
Amazing. Your own brain creates its own Chinese whispers. I believe
that the employer has the right to make certain rules in the
workplace. Got it? Don't tell me what I mean or what you dream I mean.
Just leave my words alone and let other people decide for themselves
what I mean.
>They should either have their tongues cut out or speak to each other in the
>company broom closet. Their own little room once the broom has been removed
>from it first.
Yes, That's exactly what I wrote, isn't it, you pathetic lying sack of
shite?
>The biggest worry for the guy running the company is that if the Indian
>workers should realise they're working for a lot less pay than the English
>speaking workers are. By having them speak English he'll know if they
>realise that he's cheating them like he most like is.
And the assumptions just keep on coming! You're worse than my son when
he was about 10 years old, jumping from fantasy to fantasy, making it
up as you go and convincing yourself that you actually saw that.
Tarla
>
>Calling someone something means nothing unless the shoe actually fits.
>Tarla has tried on that very shoe in several posts. Tarla has made it quite
>clear that she doesn't believe people shouldn't be in the same room as
>others unless they speak in English only. And Tarla isn't joking about it
>not one bit.
Show me where I said that, you deranged old fartbag.
E. Scrooge
"Tarla" <tarla...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:12:20 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
>
> >
> >Calling someone something means nothing unless the shoe actually fits.
> >Tarla has tried on that very shoe in several posts. Tarla has made it
quite
> >clear that she doesn't believe people shouldn't be in the same room as
> >others unless they speak in English only. And Tarla isn't joking about
it
> >not one bit.
>
> Show me where I said that, you deranged old fartbag.
> --
> Tarla
Does this look familiar?
"He has offered to
create a separate room where those who wish to speak in Indian
dialects may do so, buy insists that when they are among the greater
group, that they speak in English so that none of the workers are
offended or feel left out. I think his attitude is totally reasonable."
You agree with the boss of the outfit that Indians should not be seen or
heard by stuffing them into another room.
And since you snip the Hell out of posts don't expect me to always go
hunting back through old posts for you.
E. Scrooge
E. Scrooge
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:34:02 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
> (*sling)> wrote:
>
>
> >Tarla doesn't believe that Indians in a workplace should be allowed to
speak
> >in their own language while having lunch.
>
> Amazing. Your own brain creates its own Chinese whispers. I believe
> that the employer has the right to make certain rules in the
> workplace. Got it? Don't tell me what I mean or what you dream I mean.
> Just leave my words alone and let other people decide for themselves
> what I mean.
>
> >They should either have their tongues cut out or speak to each other in
the
> >company broom closet. Their own little room once the broom has been
removed
> >from it first.
>
> Yes, That's exactly what I wrote, isn't it, you pathetic lying sack of
> shite?
> Tarla
It's not that far off from what you posted - which I've cut and pasted
*exactly* what you typed into another reply to a post of yours in this
thread.
You said it was quite reasonable for the boss of the outfit to stuff the
Indian speaking people into another room to have their lunch in away from
the other workers of the outfit.
If you didn't mean it then you shouldn't have said it.
E. Scrooge
Col's law.
Give Tarla a shovel
and China will soon have a visitor..
E. Scrooge
"Col:" <C...@xtra.con> wrote in message
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:56:31 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
(*sling)>
coming to
> NZ ? Her comment 'Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
coming
> here.
>
> I agree your total life is involved in nz.general sp ypu will have missed
the
> fact she may be coming to NZ .
> --
>
> Col
Just give me a few minutes while I get the code book out so I can figure out
what the fuck you're trying to say...
LOL
She didn't actually *say she was coming to NZ*. Until it's been proven
beyond all doubt I see little reason to believe one way or the other on the
flimsy bit of evidence which has been presented on the matter thus far.
It's that kind of evidence that got Ellis and Scott Watson convicted (in
their separate cases).
I mostly read it as an intro into taking part in the newsgroup. Which would
be reasonable if she wants to find out more about NZ, Collie the Hobbit.
E. Scrooge
E. Scrooge
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:02:42 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
> (*sling)> wrote:
>
> >
> ><shyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:486e07f5.0406...@posting.google.com...
> >> I have been reading and enjoying your posts for sometime. Now I have
> >> a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
> >> of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
> >> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
> >> Go Home," when someone hears my accent. Thanks in advance for your
> >> replies.
> >>
> >> Linda
> >
> >Do you plan on posting racist Nazi views like Cath and Tarla?
>
> Lay off the sauce for a night or two, okay, Scrooge?
>
> --
> Tarla
That's a good point.
If she does come out to NZ then I'd suggest that she tries out "our famous
Watties sauce".
Good with cheerios or sausages wrapped in bread etc.
E. Scrooge
A L P
Read the words, Scrooge. He offered his employees a second lunch-room
in which they would be free to speak Indian, no suggestion of forcing
anyone to use it, giving them the *option* of the English-speaking area
OR the non-English-speaking area. Twice the facilities. *More* freedom
for both parties - the ones who only want to hear English, and the ones
who want to speak other languages. Bloody good idea, wouldn't you say?
Or is the idea of freedom of choice a bit scary to you, would you
rather have a Sgt Major telling you what to do and what to think and
when to fart?
A L P
shyte...@yahoo.com
> shyte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
I got booted, hope this doesn't show up twice.
Thank you for your replies. I forgot one small bit of information, an
important bit. I plan on visiting your fair country in a few months.
Was wondering how thick my skin should be. I have gotten where I can
travel a bit and thought NZ would be the place to start.
Linda
David Pears
>Thank you for your replies. I forgot one small bit of information, an
>important bit. I plan on visiting your fair country in a few months.
>Was wondering how thick my skin should be. I have gotten where I can
>travel a bit and thought NZ would be the place to start.
NZ doesn't have television yet, and cinemas are few and far between.
Consequently, NZers have vaguely heard of American film stars and
other celebrities, but have very little idea what they look like. With
your accent, you could have lots of fun going around the country
pretending to be some famous American, like Britney Spears, Paris
Hilton, or Hilary Clinton.
Just think of their lives, full of deviancy, unbridled consumerism,
and bad behaviour. Compare it with your own, which is likely dull and
suburban. And realise how much more fun you'd have if you were them,
in a foreign country full of trusting and easily fooled people!
David
PS. Don't forget Australia. NZ is pointy, green, wet, and full of odd
birds and wooly creatures. Australia is flat, red, hot, and full of
things that want to eat you. People tend to group them together, but
they are completely different.
Ashley
> Just that I don't think calling a person a racist is a particularly
> funny joke. Having recently been called a racist in earnest by
> Ashley, Baglow and Ashby.
No, Sue. You're wrong. I'm the only one who's called you racist.
Ashley
<shyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You'll be fine. We're actually very friendly and don't bite ... really!
E. Scrooge
"David Pears" <dpears...@bigfoot.com.au> wrote in message
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> On 30 Jun 2004 03:42:30 -0700, shyte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Thank you for your replies. I forgot one small bit of information, an
> >important bit. I plan on visiting your fair country in a few months.
> >Was wondering how thick my skin should be. I have gotten where I can
> >travel a bit and thought NZ would be the place to start.
>
> NZ doesn't have television yet, and cinemas are few and far between.
> Consequently, NZers have vaguely heard of American film stars and
> other celebrities, but have very little idea what they look like. With
> your accent, you could have lots of fun going around the country
> pretending to be some famous American, like Britney Spears, Paris
> Hilton, or Hilary Clinton.
>
> Just think of their lives, full of deviancy, unbridled consumerism,
> and bad behaviour. Compare it with your own, which is likely dull and
> suburban. And realise how much more fun you'd have if you were them,
> in a foreign country full of trusting and easily fooled people!
Great advice John Boy. Only problem with that lot is that if Linda has seen
Lord Of The Rings, and the NZ behind scenes hi technology that went into the
making of one of the greatest films of all time. Linda will probably
already have a damn good idea that NZ is nothing like your very dull and
bland Walton's Mountain.
E. Scrooge
E. Scrooge
Thanks for confirming your plan to travel to NZ. Shouldn't be a bad time of
year to do it. Queenstown would be the best place to start. Should still
be plenty of snow round the mountains. Well worth seeing. Having a sense
of humour would help.
Just pop in *Queenstown* into Google or whatever search engine you use in
your neck of the woods to check out the place.
E. Scrooge
E. Scrooge
"Col:" <C...@xtra.con> wrote in message
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:37:54 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
building up
> to something. You are getting more and more agressive. I realise you are
taking
> a bath from tarla and Cath and you are finding it so hard to take given
your
> absolute sheer terror you exhibit in the company of women under the age of
80
> without walking frames. You continually bully everyone on here who doesn't
agree
> with you. You hang around rubbing your hands with glee when a new poster
> arrives and you climb right into them even if they post a perfectly
reasonable
> post. Any reasonable request is answered by you with some outrageous
> suggestions bearing no connection to the original request. There are more
brains
> in your chargeable frog than you possess. Where to you keep your frog. In
your
> mothers porcelain pisspot ? You really should take a deep breath, and step
out
> into the real world. I know you find it scary but if you tried it you
might find
> you quite like it there. You will find all sorts of things out there.
Chargeable
> turtles, custard, boxing matches, hummers, americans, girls nights, nazis,
> buggers, bastards, pricks, judges, maoris, Paul Holmes, Russell Coutts,
John
> Mitchell, bobs,skyline garages, indians, broom closets, killers, parolees,
> mayors, Packard bell computers, yankees, coleslaw, chargeable frogs,
immigrants,
> arseholes. Think of all the fun you could have out there away from your
> computer.
>
> Col
Wasn't that enough fun for you already, lad?
I believe you forgot about the Spanish exploration of America around the
year 1600.
I hardly need to read my own posts when I know you're going read each one
several times over, all because you you've got nothing better to do with
your time.
Did you ever bother to realise that your house actually has windows which
aren't made by Microsoft?
E. Scrooge
Col's law.
Tossed lawn clippings..
E. Scrooge
"Ashley" <ashle...@XXXXXxtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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Only if we forget to put the muzzle on Col.
LOL
E. Scrooge
Murray Sutherland
Some do bi te ....really!
Tom Enright
news:<40e2...@news.orcon.net.nz>...
> TomV wrote:
> > In NZ anti-American tends to be hurled at anyone who dares to question
> > the foreign policy of the current US adminsitration
> >
> > ..tom
> Agreed....
Yes, as an American I can attest to the fact that Steve's love
of the American people gives us all comfort in these trying times.
-TOE
"I looked up at the bar's TV. Europeans were running around in
shorts playing kickball. The world seemed strange. It was time
to change the subject again."
-John Samples, in a Washington bar, talking politics with an intern.
Tarla
(*sling)> wrote:
>
>"Tarla" <tarla...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:tsq4e0dg77io2o3ef...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:12:20 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
>>
>> >
>> >Calling someone something means nothing unless the shoe actually fits.
>> >Tarla has tried on that very shoe in several posts. Tarla has made it
>quite
>> >clear that she doesn't believe people shouldn't be in the same room as
>> >others unless they speak in English only. And Tarla isn't joking about
>it
>> >not one bit.
>>
>> Show me where I said that, you deranged old fartbag.
>> --
>> Tarla
>
>Does this look familiar?
>
>"He has offered to
>create a separate room where those who wish to speak in Indian
>dialects may do so, buy insists that when they are among the greater
>group, that they speak in English so that none of the workers are
>offended or feel left out. I think his attitude is totally reasonable."
And how does this translate into "Tarla has made it quite
clear that she doesn't believe people shouldn't be in the same room as
others unless they speak in English only. "
>
>You agree with the boss of the outfit that Indians should not be seen or
>heard by stuffing them into another room.
No I didn't. I said that I thought it was reasonable to ask people to
speak the same language in the workplace, so that no one feels left
out or offended.
>
>And since you snip the Hell out of posts don't expect me to always go
>hunting back through old posts for you.
You won't go back and look because you know that you've created
something out of nothing. I snip because we've addressed the points
that I remove. You could learn to trim a post, yourself.
Tarla
(*sling)> wrote:
I wrote that he offered to set aside a room for those who wished to
speak in their own language. He made a generous offer to his staff,
and you're attempting to make it look as though he was trying to hide
them away. It's their choice as to whether or not they want a Hindi
only room.
>
>If you didn't mean it then you shouldn't have said it.
You better hope that some day you aren't held accountable for yours.
Tarla
Don't worry about your skin, Linda. I'm American by birth and have
lived here almost six years. I've never had anyone be rude to me
because of my origins.
Julia Williams
news:40e2...@news.orcon.net.nz...
>
> Maple sugar will be rare in Texas....as sugar maples require at least 1
> month / year where the temperature rarely rises above zero derees
> Fahrenheit in order for the sap to run when the weather begins to warm.
I suppose I was assuming that market forces would have driven such perfect
confectionary to every store in the country - but having discussed it now
with some West coast (of the US) visitors I find you may be right.
J
Sue Bilstein
Ashby's mealy-mouthing around the subject makes his accusation
perfectly clear. I posted the reference where Baglow takes up the
same thing, a while ago.
So how is it being a self-hating Pakeha today, Ashley baby?
shyte...@yahoo.com
Now...Daved...I ain't got no education, can bearly read and rite, but
thunk U are puling my leg. I don seed pictures of NZ in National
Geografic in duh outhouse.
Cheers, Linda
A L P
But they usually have the decency to take their teeth out first.
A L P
A L P
al....grump, grump, mutter.
A L P
shyte...@yahoo.com
> A real Texan would have written "Howdy All."
>
> You must be a sockpuppet.
>
> -TOE
Now I have never told anyone Howdy in my life. Also say You all, not
you'll or what ever. lol
Linda in Texas
Rats
news:486e07f5.0406...@posting.google.com...
> I have been reading and enjoying your posts for sometime. Now I have
> a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
> of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
> Go Home," when someone hears my accent. Thanks in advance for your
> replies.
You're making a mistake. People in NZ are not anti-american as much as
anti-american policies. These are two different things. You have a bunch of
hicks running your country right now. They've made this world a very
dangerous place and people like me are very pissed off about it. That
doesn't mean that I have anything against the average Joe or Jane American.
shyte...@yahoo.com
> That's a good point.
> If she does come out to NZ then I'd suggest that she tries out "our famous
> Watties sauce".
> Good with cheerios or sausages wrapped in bread etc.
>
> E. Scrooge
Now I have been wondering, what is Watties sauce? If you can use it
on cheerios and sausages wrapped in bread, your cheerios must not be
like the ones I put milk and sugar on.
Linda in Texas
E. Scrooge
<shyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:486e07f5.04063...@posting.google.com...
Tomatoes.
Real popular sauce.
<http://www.watties.co.nz/html/products/products.asp?ID=85&categoryID=14>
Cheerios is what cocktail savaloys are known as. Kids like them as they're
much smaller than a savaloy is.
http://www.fishersmeat.com/product.asp?productid=103
The famous quality Fisher range is hard to beat.
http://www.fishersmeat.com/about.asp
E. Scrooge
Geoff McCaughan
> Now I have been wondering, what is Watties sauce?
Like the stuff you call ketchup.
> If you can use it on cheerios and sausages wrapped in bread, your cheerios
> must not be like the ones I put milk and sugar on.
Indeed. Welcome to the world of similar-sounding words that have vastly
different meanings in different countries.
Cheerios are cocktail sausages - rather like small frankfurters.
--
Burn the land and boil the sea,
You can't take the sky from me.
Sue Bilstein
<geo...@spam.fqdn.com> wrote:
>shyte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Now I have been wondering, what is Watties sauce?
>
>Like the stuff you call ketchup.
>
>> If you can use it on cheerios and sausages wrapped in bread, your cheerios
>> must not be like the ones I put milk and sugar on.
>
>Indeed. Welcome to the world of similar-sounding words that have vastly
>different meanings in different countries.
>
>Cheerios are cocktail sausages - rather like small frankfurters.
(only not as tasty!)
Ashley
> So how is it being a self-hating Pakeha today, Ashley baby?
Wouldn't know Sue. How about you enlighten me.
Sue Bilstein
I'm happy and proud to be Pakeha, Ashley. I don't have any need to
believe the worst about Pakeha, now or historically. How about you?
Ashley
>
> I'm happy and proud to be Pakeha, Ashley. I don't have any need to
> believe the worst about Pakeha, now or historically. How about you?
Ditto. As has always been the case. As you well know.
te...@texasremovethisbit.usa.com
(*sling)> wrote:
>
>"Col:" <C...@xtra.con> wrote in message
>news:=zPiQOmNJ2iL4U...@4ax.com...
>> On 29 Jun 2004 16:21:20 -0700, shyte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> >I have been reading and enjoying your posts for sometime. Now I have
>> >a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
>> >of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
>> >mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
>> >Go Home," when someone hears my accent. Thanks in advance for your
>> >replies.
>> >
>E. Scrooge
>
>Col's law.
>The only reality is virtual reality..
>
Shit Scroogie can't you do some 'investigative' work other than using
giggle.
I post from South Texas. I think amply proven last year when
Hurricane Claudette struck and other references to the Corpus Christi
newspaper/the area of Texas I live in which is rich in TX history as
pointed out these past few days.
The other poster is posting from Amarillo - which is waaaay waaaay
waaaaay from where I live. Amarillo is in the Panhandle.
This is a case of 'Show me the way to Amarillo'.....
When you see in writing or hear the famous words spoken at the Battle
of San Jacinto, quote, "Remember Golidad, Remember the Alamo",
just remember me :-))))
[Next you will be saying I have multiple personas.....]
Cath
te...@texasremovethisbit.usa.com
wrote:
>JJ Williams wrote:
>
>>
>> <shyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:486e07f5.0406...@posting.google.com...
>>> I have been reading and enjoying your posts for sometime. Now I have
>>> a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
>>> of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
>>> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)?
>>
>> If you stock up before you leave with a good supply of maple sugar candy
>> (<drool>) and distribute it generously you are sure to be immensely
>> popular whatever your views.
>>
>> J
>
>Maple sugar will be rare in Texas....as sugar maples require at least 1
>month / year where the temperature rarely rises above zero derees
>Fahrenheit in order for the sap to run when the weather begins to warm.
>
>That ain't texas. :-)
>
>(It takes 100 litres of maple sap to make 1 litre of maple syrup).
>
>
>
Ah but Steve we grow pecans - yummy pralines....
Cath
te...@texasremovethisbit.usa.com
Steve!
Your climatology is way off beat.
The further north you get from where I am in Sth TX, it does get cold
and for more than one month a year.
Believe me, I've travelled that road from the NM-TX state line all the
way down here in winter many a time. It's been so cold at times that
ice develops on the inside back windows of the car even with the
heater going full blast.
The Panhandle and Northern TX are subject to some very cold winters
indeed.
Cath
te...@texasremovethisbit.usa.com
(*sling)> wrote:
>
><shyte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:486e07f5.04063...@posting.google.com...
>> Unadulterated Me <froupa...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:<cbtinq$scu$2...@lust.ihug.co.nz>...
>> > shyte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >
>> I got booted, hope this doesn't show up twice.
>>
>> Thank you for your replies. I forgot one small bit of information, an
>> important bit. I plan on visiting your fair country in a few months.
>> Was wondering how thick my skin should be. I have gotten where I can
>> travel a bit and thought NZ would be the place to start.
>>
>> Linda
>
>Thanks for confirming your plan to travel to NZ. Shouldn't be a bad time of
>year to do it. Queenstown would be the best place to start. Should still
>be plenty of snow round the mountains. Well worth seeing. Having a sense
>of humour would help.
>Just pop in *Queenstown* into Google or whatever search engine you use in
>your neck of the woods to check out the place.
>
>E. Scrooge
>
Why should Linda want to start her journey in Queenstown?
Don't you think she's ever seen snow before??
Cath
te...@texasremovethisbit.usa.com
>">
>> A real Texan would have written "Howdy All."
No!
A real Texan would have said ya'll.....
Cath
te...@texasremovethisbit.usa.com
[msge snipped]
>On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:56:31 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz (*sling)>
>wrote:
>>LMAO
>>Let go of something else and get a grip on reality you poor fool. She's not
>>actually in NZ, she's still in Texas (at a guess from her post) while taking
>>part in the newsgroup.
>>
>>I still think it could be Cath - who will be having a bigger laugh than ever
>>thanks to you.
>>
>>"Enjoy N.Z." - as if there's much of it to be seen in nz.general.
>>LOL
>>
>Just answer me one thing. How could one hear her accent if she wasn't coming to
>NZ ? Her comment 'Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
>mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
>Go Home," when someone hears my accent? ' does sort of imply she is coming
>here.
>
>I agree your total life is involved in nz.general sp ypu will have missed the
>fact she may be coming to NZ .
I can assure ya'll that I have NO American accent.
I don't even sound 'kiwi'....
Cath
Alastair
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 00:08:08 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz (*
> sling)> wrote:
>>Wasn't that enough fun for you already, lad?
>>I believe you forgot about the Spanish exploration of America around
>>the year 1600. I hardly need to read my own posts when I know you're
>>going read each one several times over, all because you you've got
>>nothing better to do with your time.
> LOL. I often miss your posts but seem to fall over them whilst reading
> other posters replies.
The thing that I find really funny is the fact that he insists on
replying to -every- post that you make when you're having a go at him.
He obviously takes it pretty seriously...
--
Regards, Alastair.
http://www.alastair.net.nz
Christchurch, New Zealand
Note that my supplied email address is low priority and responses may be
delayed.
Sue Bilstein
I haven't seen you spreading any black legends, or exploding any
either.
Now, I can look reality in the face. When a Maori hits me in the
guts, or a Samoan hits me in the face, I don't have to pretend it was
really a Pakeha. How about you?
Ashley
>
> I haven't seen you spreading any black legends, or exploding any
> either.
>
Goodness
> Now, I can look reality in the face. When a Maori hits me in the
> guts, or a Samoan hits me in the face, I don't have to pretend it was
> really a Pakeha. How about you?
Not many (actually, not any) people hit me in the face Sue.
If one were to do so, I wouldn't have any difficulty acknowledging the
reality of the person who did so. I quite like seeing the world as it is.
Alastair
> shyte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> If you can use it on cheerios and sausages wrapped in bread, your
>> cheerios must not be like the ones I put milk and sugar on.
> Indeed. Welcome to the world of similar-sounding words that have
> vastly different meanings in different countries.
Just out of curiosity, what is a cheerio in US-speak?
B.T.M.O.
"Alastair" <> wrote
> > Indeed. Welcome to the world of similar-sounding words that have
> > vastly different meanings in different countries.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what is a cheerio in US-speak?
Dunno - but when I was in the navy, we used to call the small red
frankfurters "smallie boys".
I could never figure out why....
Sue Bilstein
<sue_bi...@yahoop.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:10:16 +1200, "Ashley"
><ashle...@XXXXXxtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>"Sue Bilstein" <sue_bi...@yahoop.com> wrote in message
>>news:dpd7e09doqbe0udvd...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I'm happy and proud to be Pakeha, Ashley. I don't have any need to
>>> believe the worst about Pakeha, now or historically. How about you?
>>
>>
>>Ditto. As has always been the case. As you well know.
>>
>
>I haven't seen you spreading any black legends, or exploding any
>either.
Actually, I think I let you off too lightly here. The way you
labelled me racist, and the conversation on which you based the
judgment, certainly do qualify as "believing the worst about Pakeha".
If you hear something that challenges your orthodoxy, zap: it's
racism.
Sue Bilstein
Right-o, because you haven't been hit, you can ignore the whole issue.
And label those who have been victimised as racists for stating the
ethnicity of the attackers.
Sue Bilstein
"Cheerios" in the US are a sort of breakfast cereal. Going by 40 year
old memories, I think they're sort of rings made out of puffed wheat
or something like that.
Ashley
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:27:32 +1200, Sue Bilstein
> Actually, I think I let you off too lightly here. The way you
> labelled me racist, and the conversation on which you based the
> judgment, certainly do qualify as "believing the worst about Pakeha".
> If you hear something that challenges your orthodoxy, zap: it's
> racism.
>
Not at all Sue. Seen me label anyone other than you racist lately?
Ashley
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:30:15 +1200, "Ashley"
> <ashle...@XXXXXxtra.co.nz> wrote:
> >"Sue Bilstein" <sue_bi...@yahoop.com> wrote in message
> >news:3ji7e09p81tff2qj1...@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I haven't seen you spreading any black legends, or exploding any
> >> either.
> >>
> >
> >Goodness
> >
> >> Now, I can look reality in the face. When a Maori hits me in the
> >> guts, or a Samoan hits me in the face, I don't have to pretend it was
> >> really a Pakeha. How about you?
> >
> >Not many (actually, not any) people hit me in the face Sue.
> >
> >If one were to do so, I wouldn't have any difficulty acknowledging the
> >reality of the person who did so. I quite like seeing the world as it is.
> >
>
> Right-o, because you haven't been hit, you can ignore the whole issue.
Who's ignoring it? If I were ignoring it, do you think I'd be debating with
you?
> And label those who have been victimised as racists for stating the
> ethnicity of the attackers.
That is not what I called you racist for Sue, and you know it. What I
called you racist for was the fact that you stated quite openly, and have
since reinforced, that you would judge strangers differently depending on
the colour of their skin.
That's racist. Whether you're comfortable with reality or not.
E. Scrooge
<te...@texasremovethisbit.usa.com> wrote in message
news:1re7e01v3c9volfi4...@4ax.com...
Only a 1 in a billion chance that it was you. Not that many visitors from
Texas in these here parts.
E. Scrooge
David Pears
wrote:
>Don't worry about your skin, Linda. I'm American by birth and have
>lived here almost six years. I've never had anyone be rude to me
>because of my origins.
Plenty have been rude for other reasons.
David
David Pears
wrote:
>The Panhandle and Northern TX are subject to some very cold winters
>indeed.
The only time I've been to Austin, temperatures were below freezing.
Which caused pipes to burst all over town, flooding homes and leaving
bits of the city center without water one evening.
I hit a bit of motorway debris on the outskirts of Dallas one evening,
and had to change a tyre in the freezing cold. I couldn't do all the
nuts with gloves on, and my fingers were painfully numb by the time
I'd finished. I had to call in to the next gas station where the
attendant let me run hot water over my hands to restore movement.
So... Texas... one of the colddest places I've ever been.
David
David Pears
>Now...Daved...I ain't got no education, can bearly read and rite, but
>thunk U are puling my leg. I don seed pictures of NZ in National
>Geografic in duh outhouse.
Luckily for you, one the things I am most expert at is matching people
to the celebrity they would be best at impersonating. After analysing
your personality and background, I have scientifically determined that
it would be almost impossible to distinguish you from Granny of the
Beverley Hillbillies. You could be sisters!
Do not send money. This is a free service I offer.
David
shyte...@yahoo.com
Cheerios are a cereal, most often eaten for breakfast. They are
round, smaller than our dime, with a hole in the middle.
Linda in Texas
shyte...@yahoo.com
Hurricane Claudette struck and other references to the Corpus Christi
newspaper/the area of Texas I live in which is rich in TX history as
pointed out these past few days.
The other poster is posting from Amarillo - which is waaaay waaaay
waaaaay from where I live. Amarillo is in the Panhandle.
This is a case of 'Show me the way to Amarillo'.....
When you see in writing or hear the famous words spoken at the Battle
of San Jacinto, quote, "Remember Golidad, Remember the Alamo",
just remember me :-))))
[Next you will be saying I have multiple personas.....]
Cath, I live near Abilene, Texas. Home of three chuch universities,
Abilene Christian, McMurry, and Hardin Simmons. Some of you may have
seen Hardin Simmons' Cowboy Marching Band. We have cutting horse
events which some Aussies attend. Down San Angelo way is a New
Zealander, who trains sheep dogs and horses.
Also home of Dyess Air Force Base.
Linda in Texas
Tarla
>>
>> That's a good point.
>> If she does come out to NZ then I'd suggest that she tries out "our famous
>> Watties sauce".
>> Good with cheerios or sausages wrapped in bread etc.
>>
>> E. Scrooge
>
>Now I have been wondering, what is Watties sauce? If you can use it
>on cheerios and sausages wrapped in bread, your cheerios must not be
>like the ones I put milk and sugar on.
Cheerios are little sausages kinda like vienna sausages but with a
bright red skin. Watties sauce is the Kiwi version of ketchup.
--
Tarla
****
Dammit, Jeb, I'm as Amish as the next guy, but if we
don't take out that sub, there won't be a Pennsylvania
to go home TO."
-my son,Eric
Tarla
>In <dzNEc.5910$LT3.2...@news.xtra.co.nz> Geoff McCaughan wrote:
>
>> shyte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>> If you can use it on cheerios and sausages wrapped in bread, your
>>> cheerios must not be like the ones I put milk and sugar on.
>
>> Indeed. Welcome to the world of similar-sounding words that have
>> vastly different meanings in different countries.
>
>Just out of curiosity, what is a cheerio in US-speak?
Cereal. Little tiny life preservers.
Tarla
wrote:
>
>Believe me, I've travelled that road from the NM-TX state line all the
>way down here in winter many a time. It's been so cold at times that
>ice develops on the inside back windows of the car even with the
>heater going full blast.
>
>The Panhandle and Northern TX are subject to some very cold winters
>indeed.
The Spousal Unit and I got caught in a snowstorm on I-40 outside of
Alberquerque one year. It was frightening. The snow was coming down so
fast and thick that you couldn't see three feet beyond the headlights.
We were just following the tail lights of the car ahead of us and
praying that he didn't drive off the road into a canyon. We crawled
along I-40 at about 25 mph for four hours or more until we found a
motel to stay in for the night. Because it's in the Southwest, people
think it doesn't snow, but they forget all the mountain ranges. I
really don't miss snow at all, or the horrific ice storms we used to
get back in Oklahoma.
Tarla
Absolutely.
shyte...@yahoo.com
> Luckily for you, one the things I am most expert at is matching people
> to the celebrity they would be best at impersonating. After analysing
> your personality and background, I have scientifically determined that
> it would be almost impossible to distinguish you from Granny of the
> Beverley Hillbillies. You could be sisters!
>
> Do not send money. This is a free service I offer.
>
> David
Naw...I'm her Ma.
Linda in Texas
Sue Bilstein
<ashle...@XXXXXxtra.co.nz> wrote:
>"Sue Bilstein" <sue_bi...@yahoop.com> wrote in message
>news:s3l7e057d6hov8dmq...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:30:15 +1200, "Ashley"
>> >
>> >Not many (actually, not any) people hit me in the face Sue.
>> >
>> >If one were to do so, I wouldn't have any difficulty acknowledging the
>> >reality of the person who did so. I quite like seeing the world as it is.
>> >
>>
>> Right-o, because you haven't been hit, you can ignore the whole issue.
>
>Who's ignoring it? If I were ignoring it, do you think I'd be debating with
>you?
>
>> And label those who have been victimised as racists for stating the
>> ethnicity of the attackers.
>
>That is not what I called you racist for Sue, and you know it. What I
>called you racist for was the fact that you stated quite openly, and have
>since reinforced, that you would judge strangers differently depending on
>the colour of their skin.
>
Right, that was the point where I was supposed to put my fingers in my
ears and chant la-la-la, in order to preserve the sanctity of the PC
party line.
Although I and mine have four times been subjected to unprovoked
attacks by Polynesians; although Maori are in prison at 4 - 5 times
their representation in the population; I MUST NOT conclude that Maori
have a problem with violence. I MUST NOT be at all aware of the
possibility that I have a higher chance of meeting violence from a
Maori stranger that a Pakeha one. Otherwise Ashley will call me a
racist.
>That's racist. Whether you're comfortable with reality or not.
>
You talk about reality!
Sue Bilstein
I haven't seen anyone else challenge your orthodoxy, dear. You've got
them all well trained.
T A R T
news:40e2...@clear.net.nz...
> Read the words, Scrooge. He offered his employees a second lunch-room
> in which they would be free to speak Indian, no suggestion of forcing
> anyone to use it, giving them the *option* of the English-speaking area
> OR the non-English-speaking area. Twice the facilities. *More* freedom
> for both parties - the ones who only want to hear English, and the ones
> who want to speak other languages. Bloody good idea, wouldn't you say?
I think it is a fantastic idea, personally.
I have an Indian background and work with 3 other Indians. One chap
constantly attempts to engage me in Hindi. It just does not make me
comfortable, so I don't do it. We don't have any policies regarding
languages at work, but speaking my own language in the work place just does
not seem professional to me.
He (the chap I mentioned above) has accused me of being "gora ke gand"-
white person's arse.
T A R T
news:486e07f5.0406...@posting.google.com...
> I have been reading and enjoying your posts for sometime. Now I have
> a question or two. Are the New Zealanders posting a good cross section
> of your population? Will I run into much anti American, if I keep my
> mouth shut (my opinions to myself)? Would hate to be told, "Yankee,
> Go Home," when someone hears my accent. Thanks in advance for your
> replies.
>
> Linda
Hello and welcome to the group!
Sue Bilstein
Huh, charming!
I'm making a collection.
Banana: a NZ Chinese person who is "really white".
Potato: a Maori who is brown but "really white" (like Alan Duff, we
hear: liking classical music, thinking that kids should have books,
and abhorring violence earned him the classification).
Oreo cookie: a black American who is "really white".
And now, "gora ke gand".
Geoff McCaughan
> Right, that was the point where I was supposed to put my fingers in my
> ears and chant la-la-la, in order to preserve the sanctity of the PC
> party line.
Why would you want to do that?
> Although I and mine have four times been subjected to unprovoked
> attacks by Polynesians; although Maori are in prison at 4 - 5 times
> their representation in the population; I MUST NOT conclude that Maori
> have a problem with violence. I MUST NOT be at all aware of the
> possibility that I have a higher chance of meeting violence from a
> Maori stranger that a Pakeha one. Otherwise Ashley will call me a
> racist.
Nobody is telling you what you must no do, and nobody is denying the facts
are as presented.
Concluding from the facts as presented that the race of the persons involved
was a causative factor in their actions is to make a judgment based on race
- i.e. it's a racist conclusion.
It's exactly analagous to concluding that you are in greater danger from a
group of people if they of a particular sex - that is a sexist conclusion.
Why would you have a problem with that?
--
Burn the land and boil the sea,
You can't take the sky from me.
Sue Bilstein
<geo...@spam.fqdn.com> wrote:
>Sue Bilstein <sue_bi...@yahoop.com> wrote:
>
>> Right, that was the point where I was supposed to put my fingers in my
>> ears and chant la-la-la, in order to preserve the sanctity of the PC
>> party line.
>
>Why would you want to do that?
Obviously I don't.
>
>> Although I and mine have four times been subjected to unprovoked
>> attacks by Polynesians; although Maori are in prison at 4 - 5 times
>> their representation in the population; I MUST NOT conclude that Maori
>> have a problem with violence. I MUST NOT be at all aware of the
>> possibility that I have a higher chance of meeting violence from a
>> Maori stranger that a Pakeha one. Otherwise Ashley will call me a
>> racist.
>
>Nobody is telling you what you must no do, and nobody is denying the facts
>are as presented.
>
>Concluding from the facts as presented that the race of the persons involved
>was a causative factor in their actions is to make a judgment based on race
>- i.e. it's a racist conclusion.
>
>It's exactly analagous to concluding that you are in greater danger from a
>group of people if they of a particular sex - that is a sexist conclusion.
>
>Why would you have a problem with that?
"Racist" and "sexist" imply unreasonable.