Key Regime shambles -> totalitarianism???
Patrick FitzGerald
So many things are going wrong with John Don Key and his band of nasty
nats that it is obvious that it he is heading a one term government.
That is unless the DNA laws and Big Brother Surveillance laws* are
enforced and NZ becomes a totalitarian state that has no need for
democracy.
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*The right wink ion its desire for power probably more freedom and
rights destroying legislation in waiting
Patrick
Squiggle
The right wink ion? is that a cation or an anion?
Patrick FitzGerald
So many things are going wrong with John Don Key and his band of nasty
nats that it is obvious that it he is heading a one term government.
That is unless the DNA laws and Big Brother Surveillance laws* are
enforced and NZ becomes a totalitarian state that has no need for
democracy.
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*The right wing in its desire for power probably more freedom and
Patrick FitzGerald
wrote:
>>
>
>The right wink ion? is that a cation or an anion?
Thanks for pointing that out - I relied to much on the checker.
Patrick
liberty
Patrick you are a bit behind the times. Clark has done a runner.
The rumour around the traps is she will be back and take over Phil in
Goff.
Meanwhile . No one is imprisoned for sedition. The dawn raids on
the first nation have stopped. The peasants are returning to Gods
own.
misanthropic_curmudgeon
> So many things are going wrong with John Don Key and his band of nasty
> nats that it is obvious that it he is heading a one term government.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10606484
"The first Herald-DigiPoll survey since last year's election shows
close to 80 per cent of respondents rated the Government's performance
in dealing with the effect of the global recession on New Zealand as
good, very good or excellent."
> *The right wink ion its desire for power
*smile*
Sailor Sam
That's hilarious, a poll is an indicator of performance in dealing with
a recession.
Patrick FitzGerald
Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
(1) MPs Travel
===========================================================
Ministers 'entitled' to dip into tax purse
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3017124/Ministers-entitled-to-dip-into-tax-purse
==========================================================
Patrick
EMB
That Paddy is the way the law stands. Given his past attitude Hide is
on shaky moral ground but what he is doing is perfectly legal.
Patrick FitzGerald
Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
(2) Ministers Housing Alloweances
Patrick
EMB
>
> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
>
> (2) Ministers Housing Alloweances
>
bothered doing the research.
Rich...@hotmail.com
National put through regulation changes one week after the election,
and one week after the budget (nicely timed to slip under any media
scrutiny), both of which appear to have been designed to specifically
benefit Bill (Double Dipton) English.
Since they were caught with their snouts in the trough, there have
been further changes.
So no, not exactly as they were in the last Labour Government.
The Labour-led government was however guilty of not adequately
policing the previous system - Double Dipton has lived in Wellington
through all of those 9 years but claimed he was living in Dipton all
that time. Do you agree that, if he was to be seen to be acting
ethically, Bill English should pay back the amount he wrongly claimed
from before the election?
Patrick FitzGerald
Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
(3) ACC
Patrick
liberty
Patrick you are wrong.
ACC is a cot case because of labours inability to control spending.
How many years did you say you have had off work with a bad back? Was
it thirty?
JohnO
Missing an apostrophe and a spelling error. A poor effort from one who
criticises others, Patty.
Rich...@hotmail.com
wrote:
How is ACC a cot case, liberty?
liberty
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:02:23 -0700 (PDT), liberty <libert...@live.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 1, 7:18 am, Patrick FitzGerald <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
>
> >> (3) ACC
>
> >> Patrick
>
> >Patrick you are wrong.
> >ACC is a cot case because of labours inability to control spending.
> >How many years did you say you have had off work with a bad back? Was
> >it thirty?
>
> How is ACC a cot case, liberty?
Rich do try and read the papers and listen or watch the news or pop
down the corridor for a slanted opinion from labour research.
Do get yourself rechiped your memory is lagging
Rich...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>On Nov 1, 2:19�pm, Rich80...@hotmail.com wrote:
Since ACC is not a cot case, I am not surprised that you do not know
why you made your assertion.
hellicopter
> On , , Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:19:54 +1300, Re: Key Regime shambles ->
> Don't encourage him, he should be studying for the exams that will take
> him into the fifth form, finally!
ACC takes in more money to that easily cover outgoings!
We in the middle of global economic collapse, of course the
maths doesn't add up.
Labour, sure help create the crisis, their Labour finance
Minister was there at the start, Douglas was his name!
We need Regime change, from the revolutionaries of National
who want to massively add in cost for all the revolutionary
changes they have in store, to a party that can evolve us
through the crisis.
I thought Hide cared about costs, seems not, he's more interest
in readying Auckand for sell off, rather than realizing the
costs of burning down Auckland local government. Transition
should have been a evolutionary process, not a revolutionary one.
We do not need stupid ideologues in power right now! Especially
ones whose solution are know to be failures, and were designed
when there the cheap creepy credit was flowing too easily.
The game has changed! Yet the National party cannot see it.
The dozy pricks have never had to be stressed their whole
lives so they are totally deluded about the situation.
Its going to cost us. Man is it.
>
> --
> "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
> to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
> Anatole France.
liberty
> On , , Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:19:54 +1300, Re: Key Regime shambles ->
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:02:23 -0700 (PDT), liberty <libert...@live.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Nov 1, 7:18 am, Patrick FitzGerald <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >>> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
>
> >>> (3) ACC
>
> >>> Patrick
>
> >>Patrick you are wrong.
> >>ACC is a cot case because of labours inability to control spending.
> >>How many years did you say you have had off work with a bad back? Was
> >>it thirty?
>
> >How is ACC a cot case, liberty?
>
> the fifth form, finally!
>
> "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
> to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
>
> - Show quoted text -
How many years of study did it take you to become a Trolley boy?
at least it keeps you off the streets.
Patrick FitzGerald
wrote:
>
>Patrick you are wrong.
>ACC is a cot case because of labours inability to control spending.
>How many years did you say you have had off work with a bad back? Was
>it thirty?
Liberty #66 you are a vile foul liar and a yellow despicable coward
hiding behind a pen name to post your vile lies.
Patrick
liberty
> On , , Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:40:29 -0700 (PDT), Re: Key Regime shambles ->
> I have never been a trolley boy.
> You are showing that the Libertarians are prepared to lie, slander, defame,
> libel to try and get their policies out.
> I have told you previously that I have never been a trolley boy, whatever that
> is, but you are obviously too intellectually challenged to understand that and
> stop your campaign of lying.
>
> --
> "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
> to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
> Anatole France.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
So it’s one rule for scooter and another rule for everyone else.
You have been posting lies about me for months. As soon as someone
Takes the piss. You wet yourself with rage. What a blouse.
and a twofaced Git.
liberty
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:02:23 -0700 (PDT), liberty <libert...@live.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Patrick you are wrong.
> >ACC is a cot case because of labours inability to control spending.
> >How many years did you say you have had off work with a bad back? Was
> >it thirty?
>
> Liberty #66 you are a vile foul liar and a yellow despicable coward
> hiding behind a pen name to post your vile lies.
>
> Patrick
Patrick
A question is not a lie
Brian Dooley
So I expect Key will be relaxed about it.
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington New Zealand
Rich...@hotmail.com
wrote:
When did you stop shoplifting, "liberty"?
Remember that a question is not a lie . . .
Rich...@hotmail.com
Of course he wil be - he approved the travel after all - as well as
the travel by the partners of Peter Dunne, David Carter, Phil Heatly
Was anyone sily enough to really believe that he meant it when he
said: �I�ve told them if they want to take their partner, they can do
it, but they pay for it�.
What he really meant was "If they really want to take their partner,
there is another taxpayer fund that they are able to use"
Its legal, therefore it is OK.
The other way of looking at it is that John Key is opnly there to say
what he is told to say - with of course a nice smile. His real problem
is that he is getting appalling direction, and has no control over his
Ministers.
JohnO
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:09:03 +1300, Brian Dooley
>
>
>
>
>
> <bria...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:38:42 +1300, EMB <emb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Patrick FitzGerald wrote:
>
> >>> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
>
> >>> (1) MPs Travel
>
> >>> ===========================================================
> >>> Ministers 'entitled' to dip into tax purse
>
>
> >>> ==========================================================
>
> >>That Paddy is the way the law stands. Given his past attitude Hide is
> >>on shaky moral ground but what he is doing is perfectly legal.
>
> >So I expect Key will be relaxed about it.
>
> Of course he wil be - he approved the travel after all - as well as
> the travel by the partners of Peter Dunne, David Carter, Phil Heatly
He would only have to approve the travel by Hide himself. As Hide's
partner traveled under the 90% perk it had nothing what so ever to do
with Key and indeed Key has no authority to prevent Hide or any MP
from using the perks that their employment conditions specifically
allow..
But don't let a few facts stop you from continuing to post lies,
Richbot. People can see right through you nowdays so the only harm you
are doing is to the Labour Party itself.
Rich...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>On Nov 2, 1:01�pm, Rich80...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:09:03 +1300, Brian Dooley
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <bria...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:38:42 +1300, EMB <emb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>Patrick FitzGerald wrote:
>>
>> >>> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
>>
>> >>> (1) MPs Travel
>>
>> >>> ===========================================================
>> >>> Ministers 'entitled' to dip into tax purse
>>
>> >>>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3017124/Ministers-entitled-t...
>>
>> >>> ==========================================================
>>
>> >>That Paddy is the way the law stands. �Given his past attitude Hide is
>> >>on shaky moral ground but what he is doing is perfectly legal.
>>
>> >So I expect Key will be relaxed about it.
>>
>> Of course he wil be - he approved the travel after all - as well as
>> the travel by the partners of Peter Dunne, David Carter, Phil Heatly
>
>He would only have to approve the travel by Hide himself. As Hide's
>partner traveled under the 90% perk it had nothing what so ever to do
>with Key and indeed Key has no authority to prevent Hide or any MP
>from using the perks that their employment conditions specifically
>allow..
>
>But don't let a few facts stop you from continuing to post lies,
>Richbot. People can see right through you nowdays so the only harm you
>are doing is to the Labour Party itself.
You are agreeing with what I was saying. Given the publicity regarding
perks for long serving MPs, he should have known that when he said
they should pay for spouses themselves, he needed to either have some
moral authority over his Mionisters, or change teh law. He has no
moral authority - like you he believes that if its legal its OK. In
fact he aided and abetted the ministers (including 'per-buster" Hyde!
in dipping their snouts depper in the trough after he made his
announcement. Apparently the travel was referred to him and he
approved.
So do you thin he is a competent by lying politician - giving a
statement about stopping the perk that he knew would not happen - or
is he just a mindless puppet with no moral fibre himself and no
authority over Cabinet (and probably poorly advised as well). Your
call, JohnO
Patrick FitzGerald
Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
(4) The Worthless cabinet
Patrick
Patrick FitzGerald
Liberty #66 you are a vile foul liar and a yellow despicable coward
EMB
> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
>
> (4) The Worthless cabinet
And still worth far more than any Labour cabinet in the last decade.
JohnO
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:31:17 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com>
More lies. You said Key authorised the partner travel. That is not the
case.
<snip incoherent babble>
ChristianKnight
> So many things are going wrong with John Don Key and his band of nasty
> nats that it is obvious that it he is heading a one term government.
>
> That is unless the DNA laws and Big Brother Surveillance laws* are
> enforced and NZ becomes a totalitarian state that has no need for
> democracy.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *The right wink ion its desire for power probably more freedom and
> rights destroying legislation in waiting
>
> Patrick
I think John Key threatening to take peoples morning and afternoon tea
breaks away before Labour Weekend has proven just how low the rotten
scoundrel is prepared to go to lift himself above the masses.
Christ's love
Rich...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>On Nov 2, 4:45�pm, Rich80...@hotmail.com wrote:
And in developing news Key now admits that he has no control over his
Ministers - they are free to make up their own minds about using the
perk to pay for partners. He is probably 'comfortable' about yet
another flip-flop . . .
Patrick FitzGerald
Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
(5) Key cant control his cabinet ministers
Patrick
liberty
Clark didn’t stop one of her Mps keeping slaves.
Or her party pillaging $800,000
Then she was the ring leader
Rich...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>On Nov 3, 6:53�am, Patrick FitzGerald <a...@b.com> wrote:
Desperate avoidance (and typical Nat/ACT lying) noted.
JohnO
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:36:38 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com>
You moron. Since when has Key had the power to unilaterally reduce
MP's compensation package?
WorkHard
>> And in developing news Key now admits that he has no control
>> over his
>> Ministers - they are free to make up their own minds about
>> using the
>> perk to pay for partners. He is probably 'comfortable' about
>> yet
>> another flip-flop . . .
>
> You moron. Since when has Key had the power to unilaterally
> reduce
> MP's compensation package?
ALL the Richtard ever does is slag off National... no matter
what.
Labour were in power for 9 years and ALL he ever did was slag
National and every National mp.
National are in power now and ALL he ever does is slag them off.
He is paid to slag off National. It's his full-time job, paid for
by the Labour Party.
Rich...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>On Nov 2, 11:24�pm, Rich80...@hotmail.com wrote:
John Key thought that he could tell Cabinet Ministers not to take
partners with them on overseas trips. It seems he was wrong.
He did not mention all MPs - but he can of course reduce the
comensation of Ministers by removing them as a Minister. It appears he
is not willing to do that either.
Do you beleive that John Key lied or is just incompetent?
JohnO
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:33:35 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com>
No, you lied and are clearly incompetent. You are an asset to the
government's parties, you really are.
Patrick FitzGerald
Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
(5) Auckland Super City
Patrick
liberty
What is the problem with Auckland super city.
The report I read. They were going keep all front line staff.
Such as Rat Catchers, Road workers etc The people who keep the city
moving.
While sacking latte drinking management.
I fail to see the problem.
WorkHard
Spud should be very happy with that. Surely?
Patrick FitzGerald
>Spud should be very happy with that. Surely?
>
John B PooPoo is workhard's real name
Patrick
liberty
>
> - Show quoted text -
Are depressants ever happy?
liberty
> On , , Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:56:35 -0800 (PST), Re: Key Regime shambles ->
> Substances don't have emotions.
> Therefore your question makes absolutely no sense at all.
Scooter you are depressing.
Mind you, spending years as a trolley boy would make anyone
depressed.
Rich...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>On Nov 4, 8:34�pm, Msg. Scooter <monsignor.scoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry to hear you are depressed 'liberty' - have you sought
professional advice? Have you thought about a change of occupation?
liberty
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 00:13:20 -0800 (PST), liberty <libert...@live.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Why would I be depressed Richbot . We have had twelve months without
Nanny Witch.
Labour is in disarray and likely to stay that way for a while.
New Zealand is back to being Gods Own.
Patrick FitzGerald
Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
(6) Appointing Don Brash to improve the wages of those who do the
real work when it is the policies that Corn Beef Brash supports that
got us low wages.
Patrick
Patrick FitzGerald
Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
(7) Program featuring Bill English on TV 7.
Patrick
liberty
You are a sad sack Patty
Moan moan bitch bitch
Typical laborite
WorkHard
It's called the politics of 'envy'.
A truly miserable way to live life.
Brian Dooley
He has *you* on the ropes.
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington New Zealand
WorkHard
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:27:18 -0800 (PST), liberty
> <libe...@live.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 6, 8:08 am, Patrick FitzGerald <a...@b.com> wrote:
>>> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's
>>> Government.
>>>
>>> (7) Program featuring Bill English on TV 7.
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>
>> You are a sad sack Patty
>> Moan moan bitch bitch
>> Typical laborite
>
> He has *you* on the ropes.
Get a life, you deluded fool, Drooley.
liberty
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:27:18 -0800 (PST), liberty
>
> >On Nov 6, 8:08 am, Patrick FitzGerald <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
>
> >> (7) Program featuring Bill English on TV 7.
>
> >> Patrick
>
> >You are a sad sack Patty
> >Moan moan bitch bitch
> >Typical laborite
>
> He has *you* on the ropes.
> --
>
> Brian Dooley
>
> Wellington New Zealand
In your little world Dooley. Patty would be the life of the party.
Brian Dooley
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:51:06 +1300, "WorkHard" <w...@workhard.org>
wrote:
>Brian Dooley wrote:
Your sparkling wit is a credit - but to what is the question.
Brian Dooley
I have just elicited similar replies from both you and
Bilderbeck.
There must be a lesson there.
WorkHard
You couldn't elicit a decent shit.
liberty
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:04:58 -0800 (PST), liberty
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 6, 4:42 pm, Brian Dooley <bria...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:27:18 -0800 (PST), liberty
>
> >> <libert...@live.com> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 6, 8:08 am, Patrick FitzGerald <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> >> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's Government.
>
> >> >> (7) Program featuring Bill English on TV 7.
>
> >> >> Patrick
>
> >> >You are a sad sack Patty
> >> >Moan moan bitch bitch
> >> >Typical laborite
>
> >> He has *you* on the ropes.
> >> --
>
> >> Brian Dooley
>
> >> Wellington New Zealand
>
> >In your little world Dooley. Patty would be the life of the party.
>
> I have just elicited similar replies from both you and
> Bilderbeck.
>
> There must be a lesson there.
> --
>
> Brian Dooley
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Are you on the same thread Dooley? As I don’t see any Bilderbeck .
hellicopter
You agree with freedom for things you might want to do and disagree with
freedoms for things you don’t want other people to do.
That's not libertarian, attacking the messenger just makes
you a cheap thug.
liberty
>
> - Show quoted text -
Labourites are not messengers they are parasites. They believe it is
there god given right
to be mollycoddled by the state from the cradle to the grave.
Now having the state look after the people is not the problem.
The problem is the people the state are paying for don’t pay enough
for the service.
So the State screws the life blood out of the so called rich.
( Patricks greedy ones) to pay for the Socialist cesspit.
Brian Dooley
Brian Dooley
I can follow more than one thread at a time - it's called
multi-tasking but it takes brains so I don't expect you to
understand.
liberty
> >Are you on the same thread Dooley? As I don’t see any Bilderbeck .
>
> I can follow more than one thread at a time - it's called
> multi-tasking but it takes brains so I don't expect you to
> understand.
> --
>
> Brian Dooley
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
That doesn’t explain why you refer to a Mr Bilderbeck
WorkHard
Diarrhea doesn't count.
hellicopter
> On Nov 7, 4:41 am, hellicopter <stonesn...@kol.co.nz> wrote:
>> WorkHard wrote:
>> > liberty wrote:
>> >> On Nov 6, 8:08 am, Patrick FitzGerald <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> >>> Some examples of the Shambles that is John Don Key's
>> >>> Government.
>>
>> >>> (7) Program featuring Bill English on TV 7.
>>
>> >>> Patrick
>>
>> >> You are a sad sack Patty
>> >> Moan moan bitch bitch
>> >> Typical laborite
>>
>> > It's called the politics of 'envy'.
>>
>> > A truly miserable way to live life.
>>
>> You agree with freedom for things you might want to do and disagree with
>> freedoms for things you don’t want other people to do.
>>
>> That's not libertarian, attacking the messenger just makes
>> you a cheap thug.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Labourites are not messengers they are parasites. They believe it is
> there god given right
> to be mollycoddled by the state from the cradle to the grave.
So your against corporate welfare, deregulation to service the
rich club, and other mollycoddling of right wing make citizens
slaves so we can up out profits.
You are a disgrace! Taking out the civil in civil libertarian
does not give you the inheritance of civil libertarian integrity!
> Now having the state look after the people is not the problem.
> The problem is the people the state are paying for don’t pay enough
> for the service.
You are ignorant of the goals of government for the people,
by the people and of the people. Its the government duty to
maximize the liberty, justice and happiness for all people.
Inevitably someone will steal off with your stuff! It
happens all the time nowadays where a gang has cased your
movements and one day a truck pulls up when your out.
But the absurdity of the present state of government regulation
means that any financier can take your property, your earning
potential, your future buying habits, corporatize the information,
package in a company, sell into the market, borrow off the estimated
value, leverage the pot, buy yet more pseudo asset classes, insurance,
derivatives, hedge trusts, and when finally the markets realize
that not one finger was lifted in effort, not one economic decision
caused any positive effect made, then the market collapses. The bill
then arrives on YOUR mat telling you've just paid up out of
savings into your now defaulted financial company hoarding your
retirement fund, your government halves your kiwisaver pot,
your government stops your super scheme from buying at the bottom
of the market! Then why heavens forbid would you want to get a
real job when the financial jobs are so lucrative and you'll be
a patsy for some sociopathic rich prick party.
> So the State screws the life blood out of the so called rich.
> ( Patricks greedy ones) to pay for the Socialist cesspit.
One things clear, that the rich getting richer has unbalanced
the markets and will continue until both the wealth (the calls
on future value) and the mechanisms of wealth accumulation are
brought back into line with financial efficiency.
The funny thing is Soros and the pro-rail Buffet know that
its all a big bet and most bets are now bad.
liberty
So your against corporate welfare, deregulation to service the
rich club, and other mollycoddling of right wing make citizens
slaves so we can up out profits.
You are a disgrace! Taking out the civil in civil libertarian
does not give you the inheritance of civil libertarian integrity!
Chopper you really should find out what Capitalism is instead of
going of like some fish wife with an uniformed view.
We don’t have capitalism. We have socialism that is why you are
getting companies getting subsidized. In Libertarian speak they are
called looters
They have done very nicely under Labour and National for years.
> Now having the state look after the people is not the problem.
> The problem is the people the state are paying for don’t pay enough
> for the service.
You are ignorant of the goals of government for the people,
by the people and of the people. Its the government duty to
maximize the liberty, justice and happiness for all people.
Spoken like a commonest
Sniped Rant
> So the State screws the life blood out of the so called rich.
> ( Patricks greedy ones) to pay for the Socialist cesspit.
One things clear, that the rich getting richer has unbalanced
the markets and will continue until both the wealth (the calls
on future value) and the mechanisms of wealth accumulation are
brought back into line with financial efficiency.
If anyone gets rich without being a looter good on them.
What do real Capitalist do with their money Chopper?
They invest it.. That helps the economy grow.
The State pillaging the rich and spending it on parasites doesn’t
grow the economy in real terms
Brian Dooley
Brian Dooley
I do it to demonstrate just how thick you are.
liberty
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are a great one to preach Dooley.
Your avenge posting is two to three words on a good day maybe six.
Normally just a bitch or a moan. But never an opinion. Hell no you
cannot give an opinion.
Why not. You gloat about your written skills. It appears you are
lacking in the ability to use those skills and yet you repeatedly go
on about my writing style.
Basically Dooley until you can produce a bit more than just a yes no
post.
I will treat your feeble posts with contempt.
hellicopter
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> So your against corporate welfare, deregulation to service the
> rich club, and other mollycoddling of right wing make citizens
> slaves so we can up out profits.
> You are a disgrace! Taking out the civil in civil libertarian
> does not give you the inheritance of civil libertarian integrity!
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> Chopper you really should find out what Capitalism is instead of
> going of like some fish wife with an uniformed view.
> We don’t have capitalism. We have socialism that is why you are
> getting companies getting subsidized. In Libertarian speak they are
> called looters
> They have done very nicely under Labour and National for years.
Spoken like the true ideologue, vacated of proof you even know
what capitalism is, lacking in any reference points on how
weak socialism is anything more than a measure for capitalist
government to gauge general health of the economy (i.e.
income inequality is a statistical measure based around the
need to maximize the efficiency of markets by providing the
greatest access to capitalism to the most people!).
But no you rant on like a hard line commie, pounding the
idealism and wondering why everyone has turned off.
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>> Now having the state look after the people is not the problem.
>> The problem is the people the state are paying for don’t pay enough
>> for the service.
> You are ignorant of the goals of government for the people,
> by the people and of the people. Its the government duty to
> maximize the liberty, justice and happiness for all people.
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> Spoken like a commonest
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> Sniped Rant
Typical red communist, just wants to talk about how their
flawed take on the economy must mean they are right and everyone
else is a class enemy. I repeat how is a economic measure
of income inequality socialists when it indicated the
inefficient running of the capitalist market. Every time
in history when income inequality has been this high
markets have crashed! Why? because capitalism is a
communication of economic actors and a restriction on
capitalistic interaction from the roots up causes
capitalism to be structurally unbalanced. Topples over.
Only your true red communism would want that, your
hero Marx pointed out that the excesses of capitalism
if not dealt with would led to a market collapse and
this would be the time for the 'true' reds to take over
the system. Well they are, and they are doing so not
from weakness of poverty and mass mobilization, but
from power and being the wealthiest.
Capitalism is stronger than Communism, it will out,
and we can either as a nation get ahead of the game
and legislate in Tobin taxes and other tax fairness
or we can follow the eventual and inevitable led of
others.
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>> So the State screws the life blood out of the so called rich.
>> ( Patricks greedy ones) to pay for the Socialist cesspit.
> One things clear, that the rich getting richer has unbalanced
> the markets and will continue until both the wealth (the calls
> on future value) and the mechanisms of wealth accumulation are
> brought back into line with financial efficiency.
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> If anyone gets rich without being a looter good on them.
> What do real Capitalist do with their money Chopper?
> They invest it.. That helps the economy grow.
Look I would be the first to buy up a company, run
up borrowing, sell off assets, pay large bonuses to
my mates and dump the workers, if that what the market
tells me it wants. That is what the markets have been
saying the last thirty years and its been done,all done,
every single last nook and cranny done, its over. The
market is now indicating we enter a new phase, where
a different type of capitalist needs to be hired, one
that restrains their greed for the longer term prospect
of wealth.
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> The State pillaging the rich and spending it on parasites doesn’t
> grow the economy in real terms
More over simplification. Typical of the rich red communist elite
now ruling us.
Brian Dooley
Okay, go ahead. See how long you can last.