Kiesha Castle-Hughes
Karen Hayward-King
lady...very natural
--
Karen Hayward-King
"I try to be as philosophical as the old lady
who said that the best thing about the future
is that it only comes one day at a time."
Dean Acheson
Bobs
Karen Hayward-King wrote:
> She's being interviewed on Jay Leno at the moment. A charming young
> lady...very natural
Who?
>
> --
> Karen Hayward-King
>
> "I try to be as philosophical as the old lady
> who said that the best thing about the future
> is that it only comes one day at a time."
>
> Dean Acheson
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>
>
>Karen Hayward-King wrote:
>
>> She's being interviewed on Jay Leno at the moment. A charming young
>> lady...very natural
>
>Who?
She rode a fake whale.....
DS
Bruce Hoult
Bobs <bl...@extra.co.nz> wrote:
> Karen Hayward-King wrote:
>
> > She's being interviewed on Jay Leno at the moment. A charming young
> > lady...very natural
>
> Who?
Jay Leno is a well known US late night TV talk show host. He took over
from Johnny Carson when the latter retired.
-- Bruce
p.s. oh! "Whale Rider" :-)
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com
<kiwi...@yellowsub.net> wrote:
>She's being interviewed on Jay Leno at the moment. A charming young
>lady...very natural
But didn't you cringe when she said what she thought the Grand Canyon
was? [A narrow earthquake crack in the earth that you looked down
into].
Cath
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com
wrote:
And much more popular than Letterman.
Cath
KiwiScribe
"David Springthorpe" <david.spr...@idx.com.au> wrote in message
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Bruce Hoult
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com wrote:
The Colorado river has been wearing away at it for an *unbelievably*
long time. Especially for a kid.
-- Bruce
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com
wrote:
>In article <49jpsvcharkld16v9...@4ax.com>,
She had no clue as to what the Grand Canyon was until she actually got
there!
Cath
Sarns
<te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com> wrote in message
news:2j0qsv4u95moa0jfv...@4ax.com...
LOL and how many americans know what a Pavlova is??? :-)
Sarns
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com
wrote:
Point is, what geography is taught these days in NZ schools [after the
bashing of what is taught in US schools recently on this ng].
Cath
Sarns
<te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com> wrote in message
news:kr9qsv0tlhjdkngi0...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:22:13 +1300, "Sarns" <rac...@ya.nosey.bugger>
> wrote:
>
> >
> ><te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com> wrote in message
[snip]
> >> She had no clue as to what the Grand Canyon was until she actually got
> >> there!
> >
> >LOL and how many americans know what a Pavlova is??? :-)
> >
> >Sarns
> >
> Point is, what geography is taught these days in NZ schools [after the
> bashing of what is taught in US schools recently on this ng].
Well i guess that's down to what geography is seen as important. Personally
i'd rather kids get taught life and budgeting skills over geography anyday
Sarns
Kerry
wrote:
That's OK Cath, she's a little New Zealand girl. No dout a little
American girl wouldn't know that lake Taupo was a caldera
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day;
Teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Karen Hayward-King
>
>
>Karen Hayward-King wrote:
>
>> She's being interviewed on Jay Leno at the moment. A charming young
>> lady...very natural
>
>Who?
Jay Leno - Popular American late night talk show host.
Kiesha Castle-Hughes - 13yr old NZ actress who stars in 'Whale Rider'.
:-)
Karen Hayward-King
wrote:
I laughed....I got the impression that she was joking about the Grand
Canyon. I liked the bit at the end where she suggested that Jay Leno
might like to give her one of his 'old cars' :-)
He seemed quite taken with her...
Brian Dooley
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:23:26 +1300, Bruce Hoult <br...@hoult.org>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <49jpsvcharkld16v9...@4ax.com>,
>> te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:30:21 -0800, Karen Hayward-King
>>> <kiwi...@yellowsub.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >She's being interviewed on Jay Leno at the moment. A charming young
>>> >lady...very natural
>>>
>>> But didn't you cringe when she said what she thought the Grand Canyon
>>> was? [A narrow earthquake crack in the earth that you looked down
>>> into].
>>
>>The Colorado river has been wearing away at it for an *unbelievably*
>>long time. Especially for a kid.
>She had no clue as to what the Grand Canyon was until she actually got
>there!
But did she know where the USA is?
It's surely no worse than the reports of Americans congratulating
NZers on their command of English.
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington New Zealand
steve
>
>
> Karen Hayward-King wrote:
>
>> She's being interviewed on Jay Leno at the moment. A charming young
>> lady...very natural
>
> Who?
The young Kiwi girl who starred in "Whale Rider"
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1095720/
--
Best Regards,
Steve Withers
defenestrate: The act of throwing Windows out the window and replacing it on
your PC with some other operating system.
E. Scrooge
"Bruce Hoult" <br...@hoult.org> wrote in message
news:bruce-C0A132....@copper.ipg.tsnz.net...
Dame Silvia Cartwright while been interviewed on the Red Carpet (LOTR)
suggested that Whale Rider is crap as she'd like to see Peter Jackson remake
Whale Rider.
It was priceless, the guy from Sky TV was briefly lost for words as he
quickly ended the interview.
E. Scrooge
Karen Hayward-King
Hehehe...I've had that happen...and more than once...
American "How long have you been in the US?"
Me "6 months."
American
"Wow_You_speak_really_good_english_for_only_being_here_that_long"
Kind of left me a little speechless :-)
NZers aren't alone in their need to know what foreigners think about
their country. The No 1 question that I most often get asked is "And
what do you think about the US?"
Kurt Häusler
> NZers aren't alone in their need to know what foreigners think about
> their country. The No 1 question that I most often get asked is "And
> what do you think about the US?"
And how do you answer that?
ChrisOD
As others have said how many 13yr olds from USA would know that Taupo
was a caldrea etc.
I think it to do with experience, you know that term that old farts harp
on about? Keisha's Geology experience is more to do with earthquakes and
vulcanism than slow contiental erosion. She'd probably do better with a
spot quiz on the African rift valley.
Chris
Karen Hayward-King
wrote:
"It has it's good points and it's bad points...much like any other
country, really" That's my stock answer these days...
Brian Dooley
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:01:42 -0800, Karen Hayward-King
<kiwi...@yellowsub.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:35:28 -0600, te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:30:21 -0800, Karen Hayward-King
>><kiwi...@yellowsub.net> wrote:
>>
>>>She's being interviewed on Jay Leno at the moment. A charming young
>>>lady...very natural
>>
>>But didn't you cringe when she said what she thought the Grand Canyon
>>was? [A narrow earthquake crack in the earth that you looked down
>>into].
>
>I laughed....I got the impression that she was joking about the Grand
>Canyon. I liked the bit at the end where she suggested that Jay Leno
>might like to give her one of his 'old cars' :-)
>
>He seemed quite taken with her...
We saw a bit of it here.
A credit to the firm.
Karen Hayward-King
Yes...she was very natural in the interview. Leno seemed to be
genuinely taken with her and rather amused. She certainly came across
a lot better than some of the bratty kid actors that I've seen
interviewed recently.
Gee...I almost sound biased, don't I? :-)
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com
(Kerry) wrote:
[msge snipped]
>
>That's OK Cath, she's a little New Zealand girl. No dout a little
>American girl wouldn't know that lake Taupo was a caldera
>
When we went to school, we were taught about
rivers/replenishment/erosion etc - the Grand Canyon being an example
of river erosion; the Nile being an example of flooding/adding
nutrients to the soil.
Things have obviously changed in the ed system.
Cath
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com
wrote:
>
><te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com> wrote in message
>news:kr9qsv0tlhjdkngi0...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:22:13 +1300, "Sarns" <rac...@ya.nosey.bugger>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ><te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com> wrote in message
>
>[snip]
>
>
>> >> She had no clue as to what the Grand Canyon was until she actually got
>> >> there!
>> >
>> >LOL and how many americans know what a Pavlova is??? :-)
>> >
>> >Sarns
>> >
>> Point is, what geography is taught these days in NZ schools [after the
>> bashing of what is taught in US schools recently on this ng].
>
>Well i guess that's down to what geography is seen as important. Personally
>i'd rather kids get taught life and budgeting skills over geography anyday
>
>Sarns
I agree Sarns - there 'should' be more life skills etc taught.
If it's still the same, the ed system is [was] geared up for the 20%
of kids who went onto Uni leaving the 80% to deal with life in
whatever manner they could.
The ed system has changed so much over the years.
I remember class members raiding the local PO for all sorts of forms
as part of ongoing lessons that basically, dealt with day to day life.
Example:
Filling in deposit and withdrawal slips;
'Depositing & withdrawals & balancing a savings account'.
Filling in a telegram form [and the cost to send it];
We had to draw up cheques, invoices, statements etc then make out an
invoice, statement and cheque.
Basic reconcilliation of a cheque book.
Understanding what stamp duty was.
And this was in primary school...
When my daughter started high school here, one of her subjects was
pyschology! Half the kids in her class were not fluent in english;
daughter complained time after time about they were teaching math that
she had learnt in intermediate school in NZ.
Cath
Steve B
wrote:
>
><te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com> wrote in message
>news:kr9qsv0tlhjdkngi0...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:22:13 +1300, "Sarns" <rac...@ya.nosey.bugger>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ><te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com> wrote in message
>
>[snip]
>
>
>> >> She had no clue as to what the Grand Canyon was until she actually got
>> >> there!
>> >
>> >LOL and how many americans know what a Pavlova is??? :-)
>> >
>> >Sarns
>> >
>> Point is, what geography is taught these days in NZ schools [after the
>> bashing of what is taught in US schools recently on this ng].
>
>Well i guess that's down to what geography is seen as important. Personally
>i'd rather kids get taught life and budgeting skills over geography anyday
>
I would have thought the Grand Canyon qualified as "general knowledge"
as much as geography - Guinness Book of Records stuff, like Niagara
and Victoria Falls, Mount Rushmore, the Pyramids...geography was my
worst school subject, but I knew about big and unusual landmarks at
her age and a lot younger. Had my first Guinness BoR at the age of 9,
and I'm sure it would have had the Grand Canyon in it.
Still, maybe teachers and parents were better at it in the 50s, or
maybe Britain was (is?) better at it than NZ. Or perhaps it was just
the sort of thing I was interested in.
Steve B.
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com
Your probably right - more like a combo of and/or general knowledge,
history & geology rather than specific geology lessons.
Some of it came in with history i.e.
Victoria Falls/Livingstone/various African countries/exploration;
Pyramids/Nile/Egypt - other great rivers;
Man made 'wonders' such as the Great Wall;
Natural wonders including GC, former Pink & White Tces etc
In those days, we used to regularly visit the Planaterium at the
Musuem - one of my fav school trips.
We did little about NZ other than history - Abel Tasman, Capt Cook,
Maori Wars, French/Akaroa but little else.
I can remember doing topography whilst still at primary.
Whatever for, ?????
Cath
Tarla Star
te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com wrote:
> Your probably right - more like a combo of and/or general knowledge,
> history & geology rather than specific geology lessons.
>
> Some of it came in with history i.e.
> Victoria Falls/Livingstone/various African countries/exploration;
> Pyramids/Nile/Egypt - other great rivers;
> Man made 'wonders' such as the Great Wall;
> Natural wonders including GC, former Pink & White Tces etc
>
> In those days, we used to regularly visit the Planaterium at the
> Musuem - one of my fav school trips.
>
> We did little about NZ other than history - Abel Tasman, Capt Cook,
> Maori Wars, French/Akaroa but little else.
>
> I can remember doing topography whilst still at primary.
> Whatever for, ?????
>
> Cath
When I was in elementary school, there was more to learn about the world
then there was when my father was in elementary school. My grandfather
learned Greek and Latin in elementary school and thought his children
were poorly educated because they didn't. They had other things to
learn, new things that would make them better citizens of a new age.
Same goes for our children. Perhaps Computer Science is more relevant to
today's children than geography.
Brian Dooley
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:42:56 +1300, Tarla Star <ta...@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
>te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com wrote:
>
>> Your probably right - more like a combo of and/or general knowledge,
>> history & geology rather than specific geology lessons.
>>
>> Some of it came in with history i.e.
>> Victoria Falls/Livingstone/various African countries/exploration;
>> Pyramids/Nile/Egypt - other great rivers;
>> Man made 'wonders' such as the Great Wall;
>> Natural wonders including GC, former Pink & White Tces etc
>>
>> In those days, we used to regularly visit the Planaterium at the
>> Musuem - one of my fav school trips.
>>
>> We did little about NZ other than history - Abel Tasman, Capt Cook,
>> Maori Wars, French/Akaroa but little else.
>>
>> I can remember doing topography whilst still at primary.
>> Whatever for, ?????
>
>When I was in elementary school, there was more to learn about the world
>then there was when my father was in elementary school.
>My grandfather
>learned Greek and Latin in elementary school and thought his children
>were poorly educated because they didn't.
Good Lord, what age was he, and when, and where?
>They had other things to
>learn, new things that would make them better citizens of a new age.
>Same goes for our children. Perhaps Computer Science is more relevant to
>today's children than geography.
But is it more relevant than that much abused subject 'General
Knowledge'?
Tarla Star
Brian Dooley wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:42:56 +1300, Tarla Star <ta...@xtra.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
>
>>te...@texas.removethisbit.usa.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Your probably right - more like a combo of and/or general knowledge,
>>>history & geology rather than specific geology lessons.
>>>
>>>Some of it came in with history i.e.
>>>Victoria Falls/Livingstone/various African countries/exploration;
>>>Pyramids/Nile/Egypt - other great rivers;
>>>Man made 'wonders' such as the Great Wall;
>>>Natural wonders including GC, former Pink & White Tces etc
>>>
>>>In those days, we used to regularly visit the Planaterium at the
>>>Musuem - one of my fav school trips.
>>>
>>>We did little about NZ other than history - Abel Tasman, Capt Cook,
>>>Maori Wars, French/Akaroa but little else.
>>>
>>>I can remember doing topography whilst still at primary.
>>>Whatever for, ?????
>>
>>When I was in elementary school, there was more to learn about the world
>>then there was when my father was in elementary school.
>
>
>>My grandfather
>>learned Greek and Latin in elementary school and thought his children
>>were poorly educated because they didn't.
>
>
> Good Lord, what age was he, and when, and where?
He died in 1938 and he was educated in Ohio. He was in his early 40's
when he died.
>
>
>>They had other things to
>>learn, new things that would make them better citizens of a new age.
>>Same goes for our children. Perhaps Computer Science is more relevant to
>>today's children than geography.
>
>
> But is it more relevant than that much abused subject 'General
> Knowledge'?
"General Knowledge," eh? Wow, that's not too big a bite to chew is it?
Wonder what counts as general knowledge. Is it was the general public
know about most things like reading writing, maths, science and history?
Or is it more practical stuff like cooking, building, sewing, plumbing etc.?
>
Steve B
wrote:
Some of the former, I think - not maths but:
bits of science not exactly useful to scientists (how many elements
are liquid at room temperature?)
bits of Art that anyone actually in the discipline knows without
thinking ["who painted "Les Demoiselles d'Avignon?"]
bits of geography (where's the Grand Canyon? The Taj Mahal?)
and, as I said before "superlatives" (What was the highest mountain in
the world before Everest was discovered?]
Or, more seriously; what's the THIRD highest mountain? (everyone knows
the first two)
and those totally out-of-the way and useless facts that either you
can't forget or you spend days pointlessly trying to remember [what do
you call the little device with four spikes arranged so that however
it lands it rests on three and the fourth sticks straight up and you
throw a load of them on the ground to obstruct horses or in later
times, vehicles with tyres or (and this was the story that got me
trying to remember) jetskiers on Lake Taupo?
That's General Knowledge. Distinguished by (a) its generality [not
deep enough into the specialist knowledge of any particular discipline
to be 'expert' knowledge) and (b) its total practical uselessness. How
to make a souffle, or grout tiles is definitely not GK.
That's my view of it, anyway.
Steve B.
Tarla Star
Steve B wrote:
That's a bit disturbing. That's the kind of shit you pick up in
conversations at dinner parties, not the kind of thing that is focussed
upon in a classroom. If you're accurate (and I'm not even hinting that
you're not), then I'm very glad both of my sons are out of school. Now I
just have to worry about the grandson.
Brian Dooley
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 07:52:03 +1300, Tarla Star <ta...@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
>Steve B wrote:
When you're about 10 years-of-age?
>not the kind of thing that is focussed
>upon in a classroom. If you're accurate (and I'm not even hinting that
>you're not), then I'm very glad both of my sons are out of school. Now I
>just have to worry about the grandson.
That explains why I knew more about the world when I was 10 yoa
than many of the adult Americans I have met.
Tarla Star
Brian Dooley wrote:
>>>That's General Knowledge. Distinguished by (a) its generality [not
>>>deep enough into the specialist knowledge of any particular discipline
>>>to be 'expert' knowledge) and (b) its total practical uselessness. How
>>>to make a souffle, or grout tiles is definitely not GK.
>>>
>>>That's my view of it, anyway.
>>
>>That's a bit disturbing. That's the kind of shit you pick up in
>>conversations at dinner parties,
>
>
> When you're about 10 years-of-age?
At ten years of age I was studying: English, Arithmetic, Social Studies
(geography and history) French, Art, Music, Science and Penmanship.
Knowing the third highest mountain in the world doesn't do one much good
except on game shows and at dinner parties.
>
>
>>not the kind of thing that is focussed
>>upon in a classroom. If you're accurate (and I'm not even hinting that
>>you're not), then I'm very glad both of my sons are out of school. Now I
>>just have to worry about the grandson.
>
>
> That explains why I knew more about the world when I was 10 yoa
> than many of the adult Americans I have met.
>
Depends upon where they were educated and whether or not they had any
brains to begin with I suppose.
Brian Dooley
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:02:23 +1300, Tarla Star <ta...@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
>Brian Dooley wrote:
>
>>>>That's General Knowledge. Distinguished by (a) its generality [not
>>>>deep enough into the specialist knowledge of any particular discipline
>>>>to be 'expert' knowledge) and (b) its total practical uselessness. How
>>>>to make a souffle, or grout tiles is definitely not GK.
>>>>
>>>>That's my view of it, anyway.
>>>
>>>That's a bit disturbing. That's the kind of shit you pick up in
>>>conversations at dinner parties,
>>
>> When you're about 10 years-of-age?
>
>At ten years of age I was studying: English, Arithmetic, Social Studies
>(geography and history) French, Art, Music, Science and Penmanship.
>Knowing the third highest mountain in the world doesn't do one much good
>except on game shows and at dinner parties.
Snap! Except that I did real geography and history.
I never heard about Social Studies until I got to NZ.
And living near Manchester (the real one) during the Blitz I
*lived* a bit of history too.
>>
>>>not the kind of thing that is focussed
>>>upon in a classroom. If you're accurate (and I'm not even hinting that
>>>you're not), then I'm very glad both of my sons are out of school. Now I
>>>just have to worry about the grandson.
>>
>> That explains why I knew more about the world when I was 10 yoa
>> than many of the adult Americans I have met.
>>
>Depends upon where they were educated and whether or not they had any
>brains to begin with I suppose.
Admittedly most of them (with a few noteworthy exceptions) were
in the armed forces - which is something you might care to worry
about.