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liberty

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Aug 21, 2008, 3:02:30 AM8/21/08
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It didn't take long for Trotter to send a freedom fighter to the salt
mines


Redbaiter Says:

August 21st, 2008 at 1:11 pm
“The voters are concerned about climate change and peak oil. ”

No they are not. The mainstream media might be concerned, and might be
trying hard to stimulate concern among the public, but in most surveys
I have read, these matters aren’t high priority. Your belief that they
are Mr. Trotter is an example of the enormous political gulf that
exists between NZ’s working middle class and the elitist leftists who
predominate in media. We want to put petrol in our cars, not send
money to Russian gangsters.

All future posts from this pseudonym will be placed into permanent
moderation.

Keith

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Aug 21, 2008, 4:41:18 AM8/21/08
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In article <38dbf007-8a5c-4777-a33e-e39e5e2924a1
@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, iamnot...@live.com says...

> http://www.policy.net.nz/blog/
>
> It didn't take long for Trotter to send a freedom fighter to the salt
> mines
>
>
> Redbaiter Says:
>
> August 21st, 2008 at 1:11 pm
> =3FThe voters are concerned about climate change and peak oil. =3F

>
> No they are not. The mainstream media might be concerned, and might be
> trying hard to stimulate concern among the public, but in most surveys
> I have read, these matters aren=3Ft high priority. Your belief that they

> are Mr. Trotter is an example of the enormous political gulf that
> exists between NZ=3Fs working middle class and the elitist leftists who

> predominate in media. We want to put petrol in our cars, not send
> money to Russian gangsters.
>
> All future posts from this pseudonym will be placed into permanent
> moderation.
>
>
>
>
"Chris Trotter Says:
August 21st, 2008 at 3:43 pm

Redbaiter - hmmm. I=3Fm afraid I=3Fve never been a fan of pseudonyms - and
the one you=3Fve chosen is entirely inappropriate for this blog.

To =3FRedbait=3F is usually defined as =3Fto accuse, denounce, or attack (a
person, for example) as a Communist or a Communist sympathizer=3F.

Now if you had read my introductory blog at all carefully, you would
have understood that the whole premise of redbaiting - that it is
somehow morally legitimate to attack a person on the grounds that their
political beliefs differ from your own - runs directly counter to what I
am trying to achieve.

Not only is redbaiting fundamentally anti-democratic, but it is also
potentially very dangerous - just think about those other kinds of
baiting: jewbaiting, racebaiting; and the misery they have caused.

So, here=3Fs what I=3Fm going to do. I=3Fm going to ask Bryan, the site
administrator, to moderate you out of the dialogue this blog is trying
to encourage.

You are most welcome to return under your own name, and providing to
adhere strictly to the rules of engagement.

Ta ta for now."

Keith

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Aug 21, 2008, 4:53:55 AM8/21/08
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In article <MPG.2317f1568...@news.clear.net.nz>, keithr3
@N0JUNK.invalid says...
And then (this is almost as much fun as a JohnB/Rich flame):
"Dave Mann Says:
August 21st, 2008 at 4:36 pm

Why are you putting Redbaiter=3Fs comments into =3Fpermanent moderation=3F?

Oh of course. I understand. You=3Fre terrified to think that not everybody
in this poor benighted country has been sufficiently brainwashed into
buying into the Green religion, =3Fclimate change=3F and stupid paranoia
about =3Fpeak oil=3F. Well, welcome to the blogosphere.

Pigs have trotters but even a raging islamofacist blog wouldn=3Ft moderate
you out immediately just because they think your name is unclean.

You are pathetic. You operate on the flawed principles of mind control
and suppression that proves redbaiter to be right. He has baited you and
you have risen, just like a true socialist.

By all means moderate me out of your stinking little blog too. Actually,
I=3Fll do you the favour and moderate myself out.

Dave Mann

Requested granted.

Bryan Spondre
Blog Producer"

Geopelia

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Aug 21, 2008, 7:43:56 AM8/21/08
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Is this the Redbaiter that used to post here some time ago?

Geopelia


Me

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Aug 21, 2008, 5:29:49 PM8/21/08
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Geopelia wrote:
> Is this the Redbaiter that used to post here some time ago?
>
> Geopelia
>
>
No

thing

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Aug 21, 2008, 5:30:55 PM8/21/08
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Geopelia wrote:
> Is this the Redbaiter that used to post here some time ago?
>
> Geopelia
>
>

I would assume so given the rant...I thought they had finally got him
committed...guess not.

regards

Thing

peterwn

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Aug 21, 2008, 6:06:46 PM8/21/08
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There is also a Redbaiter who comments on David Farrar's www.kiwiblog.co,nz
and David suspends him for a week here and there for 'over the top'
comments (the current one ending a few days ago.

Roger Dewhurst

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Aug 21, 2008, 6:13:02 PM8/21/08
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Redbaiter moved to Queensland.

R

BR

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Aug 21, 2008, 6:56:54 PM8/21/08
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It's the same Redbaiter who used to post here, who posts to Kiwiblog
and who has been "moderated" on Chris Trotter's blog.

Always a good read.

Bill.

Brian Dooley

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Aug 21, 2008, 7:13:52 PM8/21/08
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:29:49 +1200, Me <us...@domain.invalid>
wrote:

If it's Russell Fletcher then it is.
--

Brian Dooley

Wellington New Zealand

I Love It!

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Aug 21, 2008, 8:11:37 PM8/21/08
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Brian Dooley wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:29:49 +1200, Me <us...@domain.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Geopelia wrote:
>>> Is this the Redbaiter that used to post here some time ago?
>>>
>>> Geopelia
>>>
>>>
>> No
>
> If it's Russell Fletcher then it is.

It's certainly not commie-Drooley, that's for usre!

--
"Enkidu - Cheers Cliff" - some knuckle-dragging slack-jawed
communist idiot on a newsgroup everywhere.


liberty

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Aug 21, 2008, 9:11:40 PM8/21/08
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> Bill.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You are right Redbaiter is a good read It appears he is still winding
up the lefties.
Trotter can’t handle a dissident.

Brian Dooley

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Aug 21, 2008, 10:56:58 PM8/21/08
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Neither could Russell - that's why he bailed out of nz.general.

liberty

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Aug 22, 2008, 12:16:09 AM8/22/08
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> Wellington  New Zealand- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

There is a difference between voluntary removal and being purged.

Roger Dewhurst

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Aug 22, 2008, 12:23:03 AM8/22/08
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Brian Dooley wrote:

>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> You are right Redbaiter is a good read It appears he is still winding
>> up the lefties.
>> Trotter can’t handle a dissident.
>
> Neither could Russell - that's why he bailed out of nz.general.

That is not the reason. The reason was a move to Australia to a
demanding job.

R

A _L_ P

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Aug 22, 2008, 12:32:05 AM8/22/08
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He got 2 for the price of 1 here: killfiled by many and eventually -
ta-ra! - voluntary removal. What a lucky guy!

A L P

Brian Dooley

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Aug 22, 2008, 1:00:17 AM8/22/08
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I recommend metamucil.

-Newsman-

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Aug 22, 2008, 1:11:49 AM8/22/08
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:16:09 -0700 (PDT), liberty
<iamnot...@live.com> wrote:

>On Aug 22, 2:56=A0pm, Brian Dooley <bria...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:11:40 -0700 (PDT), liberty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <iamnotanum...@live.com> wrote:

>> >On Aug 22, 10:56=A0am, BR <beg...@spammer.com> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:13:02 +1200, Roger Dewhurst
>>
>> >> <dewhu...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>> >> >thing wrote:
>> >> >> Geopelia wrote:
>> >> >>> Is this the Redbaiter that used to post here some time ago?
>>
>> >> >>> Geopelia
>>

>> >> >> I would assume so given the rant...I thought they had finally got h=


>im
>> >> >> committed...guess not.
>>
>> >> >> regards
>>
>> >> >> Thing
>>
>> >> >Redbaiter moved to Queensland.
>>
>> >> >R
>>
>> >> It's the same Redbaiter who used to post here, who posts to Kiwiblog
>> >> and who has been "moderated" on Chris Trotter's blog.
>>
>> >> Always a good read.
>>
>> >> Bill.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>

>> >You are right Redbaiter is a good read =A0It appears he is still winding
>> >up the lefties.
>> >Trotter can=92t handle a dissident.


>>
>> Neither could Russell - that's why he bailed out of nz.general.
>> --
>>
>> Brian Dooley
>>

>> Wellington =A0New Zealand- Hide quoted text -


>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>There is a difference between voluntary removal

withdrawal

>and being purged.

I Love It!

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Aug 22, 2008, 1:18:49 AM8/22/08
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And in your case, with a touch of arsenic for added flavour.


BR

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Aug 22, 2008, 2:40:14 AM8/22/08
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He had the measure of you though, didn't he Dooley.

Bill.

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Roger Dewhurst

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Aug 22, 2008, 3:58:02 AM8/22/08
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Yeah Righto wrote:
> On , , Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:23:03 +1200, Re: Trotter purges
> He was retired you moron. His neighbours took up a petition
> against him. He left before they lynched him.
>


Crap. Do you even know where he lived? Town, street and house number?

R

Roger Dewhurst

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Aug 22, 2008, 4:01:12 AM8/22/08
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Yeah Righto wrote:
> On , , Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:13:02 +1200, Re: Trotter purges

> Redbaiter, Roger Dewhurst <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>
> And?
> You moved to New Zealand. Ten Pound Pom weren't you?

No. I paid my own way.


I hear your neighbours had a whip around to get you out of the
> country.

Balls. Name the neighbours. You cannot because there were not any.


> There is this thing called the internet Roger, people use it to
> post to blogs, newsgroups, mailing lists they even email
> occasionally.

So I see.
>

George.com

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Aug 22, 2008, 4:13:54 AM8/22/08
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"Roger Dewhurst" <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
news:g8lrhu$eep$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...

He lived in Tauranga, Roger, somewhere along Cameron Road. There was a
telephone booth there which ACT used to hold party meetings in.

rob


-- Posted on news://freenews.netfront.net - Complaints to ne...@netfront.net --

peterwn

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Aug 22, 2008, 4:19:46 AM8/22/08
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On Aug 22, 7:22 pm, Yeah Righto <y...@right.left.centre> wrote:

>
> That is the Russell Fletcher who used to post here.

Interesting, there are various people who used to post here but have
sought greener pastures. I suspect they got fed up with being
'trashed' all the time.

Aaron Bhartnager for example - I think he got fed up with being
trashed, but he loves trashing other people.


George.com

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Aug 22, 2008, 4:25:16 AM8/22/08
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"George.com" <rob...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:g8lsg4$19r5$1...@adenine.netfront.net...

Interesting how in the space of 2 days Fletcher has been banned. Must be
some sort of record, even for Fletcher. Obviously Trotter only had to look
at one of Russells bullshit rants before deciding he was worthy of being
canned. Some unhinged right wing extremist, calling Trotter a "communist
khunt" / "communist kunt" because he doesn't agree with a far right fantasy
land policy prescription. Good for you Trotter.

Matty F

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Aug 22, 2008, 5:06:29 AM8/22/08
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On Aug 22, 7:25 pm, Yeah Righto <y...@right.left.centre> wrote:

> Why doesn't Russell Fletcher start up his own blog and take on
> every comer.

He already has a blog, but he seems to have disabled comments:
http://www.truebluenz.orconhosting.net.nz/

Keith

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Aug 22, 2008, 5:38:04 AM8/22/08
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In article <f3fd9742-38ff-4b2d-9672-649527815df5
@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, matty...@yahoo.co.nz says...

0.8 hits per day
http://gostats.com/top/News_Media/175.html

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Gib Bogle

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Aug 22, 2008, 6:04:31 PM8/22/08
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BR wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:13:02 +1200, Roger Dewhurst

> <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> thing wrote:
>>> Geopelia wrote:
>>>> Is this the Redbaiter that used to post here some time ago?
>>>>
>>>> Geopelia
>>>>
>>> I would assume so given the rant...I thought they had finally got him
>>> committed...guess not.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Thing
>> Redbaiter moved to Queensland.
>>
>> R
>
> It's the same Redbaiter who used to post here, who posts to Kiwiblog
> and who has been "moderated" on Chris Trotter's blog.
>
> Always a good read.

If you like a high invective to sense ratio. I found him very
repetitive, and ultimately tedious.

I Love It!

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Aug 22, 2008, 9:02:04 PM8/22/08
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That says more about you than him. Of course, as a socialist, you
would find it tedious because it requires you to think
trationally and also challenges your corrupt beliefs.

That just won't do, will it? Far easier to put labels on it like
tedious, boring, repetitive etc. Excuses really because you're
not up to the challenge.


--
"Enkidu - Cheers Cliff" - some knuckle-dragging slack-jawed
communist idiot on a newsgroup everywhere.


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Brian Dooley

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Aug 23, 2008, 3:50:14 AM8/23/08
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:22:51 +1200, Yeah Righto
<ye...@right.left.centre> wrote:

>On , , Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:06:46 -0700 (PDT), Re: Trotter purges
>Redbaiter, peterwn <pet...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:


>
>>On Aug 22, 9:29 am, Me <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>> Geopelia wrote:
>>> > Is this the Redbaiter that used to post here some time ago?
>>>
>>> > Geopelia
>>>

>>> No
>>
>>There is also a Redbaiter who comments on David Farrar's www.kiwiblog.co,nz
>>and David suspends him for a week here and there for 'over the top'
>>comments (the current one ending a few days ago.


>
>That is the Russell Fletcher who used to post here.

And that's why he got burned off in nz.*
--

Brian Dooley

Wellington New Zealand

Brian Dooley

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Aug 23, 2008, 4:08:38 AM8/23/08
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Fanatics are all the same.

Kerry

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Aug 24, 2008, 7:17:32 PM8/24/08
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On Aug 21, 11:43 pm, "Geopelia" <phildo...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> Is this the Redbaiter that used to post here some time ago?
>
> Geopelia

Yes

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