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geopelia
May 21, 2013, 9:38:32 AM5/21/13
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Has anybody else got an email from Telecom about a new bill?
They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say anything
about paying by cheque.
I've asked about that and will see what they say.
Perhaps it's just a mistake leaving it off their email, or perhaps they
think people will take it for granted that they can still pay by cheque.
I wouldn't mind printing the bill out from the computer, but what of those
who don't have one?
I'm sure I won't be the only customer who dumps them if they stop accepting
cheques.
Unfortunately that will have to include xtra and probably their mobile
phones too, but I haven't got a mobile yet.
What a nuisance, I've been with them ever since we got a phone.
I await developments.
They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say anything
about paying by cheque.
I've asked about that and will see what they say.
Perhaps it's just a mistake leaving it off their email, or perhaps they
think people will take it for granted that they can still pay by cheque.
I wouldn't mind printing the bill out from the computer, but what of those
who don't have one?
I'm sure I won't be the only customer who dumps them if they stop accepting
cheques.
Unfortunately that will have to include xtra and probably their mobile
phones too, but I haven't got a mobile yet.
What a nuisance, I've been with them ever since we got a phone.
I await developments.
EMB
May 21, 2013, 3:05:15 PM5/21/13
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On 22/05/2013 1:38 a.m., geopelia wrote:
> Has anybody else got an email from Telecom about a new bill?
>
> They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say anything
> about paying by cheque.
> I've asked about that and will see what they say.
> Perhaps it's just a mistake leaving it off their email, or perhaps they
> think people will take it for granted that they can still pay by cheque.
> I wouldn't mind printing the bill out from the computer, but what of those
> who don't have one?
>
> I'm sure I won't be the only customer who dumps them if they stop accepting
> cheques.
> Unfortunately that will have to include xtra and probably their mobile
> phones too, but I haven't got a mobile yet.
So you'll be giving up your phone and internet completely then Geo? I
> Has anybody else got an email from Telecom about a new bill?
>
> They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say anything
> about paying by cheque.
> I've asked about that and will see what they say.
> Perhaps it's just a mistake leaving it off their email, or perhaps they
> think people will take it for granted that they can still pay by cheque.
> I wouldn't mind printing the bill out from the computer, but what of those
> who don't have one?
>
> I'm sure I won't be the only customer who dumps them if they stop accepting
> cheques.
> Unfortunately that will have to include xtra and probably their mobile
> phones too, but I haven't got a mobile yet.
would be very surprised to find other providers willing to accept
cheques either.
> What a nuisance, I've been with them ever since we got a phone.
of paying your bill. This might be as simple as paying it over the
counter at NZ Post, or you could get a Visa Debit card and use that, or
you could even venture into the land of online banking.
>
> I await developments.
>
>
Mutlley
May 21, 2013, 4:34:06 PM5/21/13
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or auto payments these days. Checks are on their way out. We write
about 10 a year now if we're lucky. My last check book lasted me 10
years..
geoff
May 21, 2013, 4:42:42 PM5/21/13
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"geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Has anybody else got an email from Telecom about a new bill?
>
> They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say
> anything about paying by cheque.
None of the ways are fancy or new, and Telecom would probably be the last
>
> They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say
> anything about paying by cheque.
ISP that would give up cheque payment..
How about simply set up a direct debit ?
geoff
JohnO
May 21, 2013, 5:15:19 PM5/21/13
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On May 22, 8:42 am, "geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote:
> "geopelia" <geope...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
Cheques are an absolute curse to me and I avoid them. I try to pay
everything online so I can get the transaction coded properly. That
way everything comes into Xero coded and my monthly accounting effort
is just about nil.
> "geopelia" <geope...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
everything online so I can get the transaction coded properly. That
way everything comes into Xero coded and my monthly accounting effort
is just about nil.
geopelia
May 21, 2013, 5:40:55 PM5/21/13
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"EMB" <emb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I wouldn't use computer banking or a credit card, too much to go wrong.
Fred
May 21, 2013, 5:48:59 PM5/21/13
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someone, or paying by cheque.
Pooh
May 21, 2013, 6:34:49 PM5/21/13
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Set up a direct debit with your bank Geo. You can make fortnightly payments
and you can make changes without any hasstles. I've been doing it for years
with no problems or hiccups. Makes life so easy. I do it with all my regular
bills.
Pooh
and you can make changes without any hasstles. I've been doing it for years
with no problems or hiccups. Makes life so easy. I do it with all my regular
bills.
Pooh
Bruce Sinclair
May 21, 2013, 7:16:00 PM5/21/13
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Not sure now where I heard this, but sending $$ through the post is going to
become really hard if this is true. :)
Bruce Sinclair
May 21, 2013, 7:17:36 PM5/21/13
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important thing to remember here is that the banks are trying to reduce
their liability ... not ours. :)
Bruce Sinclair
May 21, 2013, 7:18:44 PM5/21/13
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Fred
May 21, 2013, 8:25:41 PM5/21/13
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Liberty
May 21, 2013, 10:33:31 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:17:36 GMT, bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz (Bruce Sinclair)
wrote:
Rubbish.
Sure 30 years ago when direct debit just started. When there was the old stuff up.
Now days it works a treat.
wrote:
Sure 30 years ago when direct debit just started. When there was the old stuff up.
Now days it works a treat.
geopelia
May 21, 2013, 10:40:44 PM5/21/13
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"Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote in message
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what it is for.
It could be harder to keep track of than a chequebook.
geopelia
May 21, 2013, 10:43:45 PM5/21/13
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"Bruce Sinclair" <bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz> wrote
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I'll check whether what they take out is the same as Countdown's invoice. I
think it is the same.
There might be a fee when they set up the system though.
Fred
May 21, 2013, 10:45:41 PM5/21/13
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debits are for, or who they are paid to.
geopelia
May 21, 2013, 10:47:20 PM5/21/13
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"Frank Williams" <FWil...@happy.com.ru> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:18:44 GMT,
> bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz (Bruce Sinclair)
> not a cheap way to do things.
>
> Geopelia just get a EFTPOS card and pay in the Post Office they have
> machines that can do it automatic, its scans your bill and deducts it
> for you acct via the EFTPOS card..
>
I wouldn't trust EFTPOS.
I've seen the problems that arise when somebody's card doesn't work and it
holds up the whole supermarket queue.
I've got a Visa credit card but only use it when there is no other way to
pay.
geopelia
May 21, 2013, 10:51:14 PM5/21/13
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"Bruce Sinclair" <bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz> wrote
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already saying it might be reduced to three deliveries a week.
I wonder if the postal people will object to no posted cheques. It must be a
large amount of their business.
Donchano
May 21, 2013, 11:31:24 PM5/21/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 01:38:32 +1200, "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com>
shouted from the highest rooftop:
with a cheque yesterday.
george152
May 22, 2013, 12:37:32 AM5/22/13
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Does this bill include the rude telemarketers marketing ceilings who
ring up and push their Telecon crap even after being told "No thanks" ?
After the phone call that I had today I'm interested in changing my
phone supplier for one who just provides a service
ring up and push their Telecon crap even after being told "No thanks" ?
After the phone call that I had today I'm interested in changing my
phone supplier for one who just provides a service
Mutlley
May 22, 2013, 12:42:49 AM5/22/13
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same??
Gordon
May 22, 2013, 1:25:44 AM5/22/13
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On 2013-05-21, Bruce Sinclair <bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz> wrote:
>
> My understanding is that cheques are being phased out in the next year or 3.
> Not sure now where I heard this, but sending $$ through the post is going to
> become really hard if this is true. :)
>
Cheques are on their way out. No where as many written as used to be.
>
> My understanding is that cheques are being phased out in the next year or 3.
> Not sure now where I heard this, but sending $$ through the post is going to
> become really hard if this is true. :)
>
However the article I read said it would be about ten years.
I still use them. They are good to pay a company in another city.
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Gordon
May 22, 2013, 1:34:15 AM5/22/13
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On 2013-05-21, Bruce Sinclair <bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz> wrote:
and you can also charge for it.
Remember also that DD is you giving permission for the person you are paying
the right to take money out of your bank account. It can cause some right
problems as the bank does not stop payments. See you have the problem, and
the bank is SFA help.
Just remember that your money in the bank can get a "haircut" just as in
Cyprus.
Pooh
May 22, 2013, 2:51:14 AM5/22/13
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"Fred" <dry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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online statement tells me exactly where money goes and where it comes from.
Pooh
geopelia
May 22, 2013, 9:54:50 AM5/22/13
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I write the details in the chequebook myself, which works OK.
The Direct Debits come out of the savings account, where the Super goes.
All I get is a little square of paper to put in the savings book, when I
update it.
There are code letters like DD for various items, but not which DD.
I have to work that out myself. So far St John is a fixed amount, and the
other must be Countdown.
It will get confusing if I have other DDs, especially if Telecom stops
sending a bill.
Visa sends a statement showing details, whether I have used it that month or
not.
Usually I haven't. I don't believe in credit cards, but for some things
nothing else is accepted.
Of course the bank pays it off every month automatically.
geopelia
May 22, 2013, 10:09:37 AM5/22/13
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"Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote in message
well for day to day stuff as their nearest branch is in Takapuna.
If they get a local branch I will do more with them.
geopelia
May 22, 2013, 10:14:36 AM5/22/13
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"Donchano" <donc...@notachance.invalid> wrote in message
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is still time.
I found it on the internet though, so I can print it out.
Pooh
May 22, 2013, 10:23:30 AM5/22/13
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Use them for bills and online banking. I have a loaded card for paying for
stuff online. It's a debit card you load online and has no connection to
your bank account. Luckily I'm handy for a branch. But look at online
banking to pay accounts. It's quick, easy and a dream to use :)
Pooh
stuff online. It's a debit card you load online and has no connection to
your bank account. Luckily I'm handy for a branch. But look at online
banking to pay accounts. It's quick, easy and a dream to use :)
Pooh
Fred
May 22, 2013, 4:12:42 PM5/22/13
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can print one if you want and most banks discount fees if you opt out of
posted statements.
geoff
May 22, 2013, 4:35:19 PM5/22/13
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> Yes pepople don't Think when they post these answers, direct debit is
> not a cheap way to do things.
>
> Geopelia just get a EFTPOS card and pay in the Post Office they have
> machines that can do it automatic, its scans your bill and deducts it
> for you acct via the EFTPOS card..
A trip to the Post Office costs Less that a Direct Debit tranaction ?!
> not a cheap way to do things.
>
> Geopelia just get a EFTPOS card and pay in the Post Office they have
> machines that can do it automatic, its scans your bill and deducts it
> for you acct via the EFTPOS card..
geoff
geoff
May 22, 2013, 4:37:47 PM5/22/13
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hold up the queue. VISA cards are essentially no different to EFT-POS cards
in use, and hold up the queue equally when they stuff up !
Ever been behind somebody trying to use a cheque at the supermarket ?
geoff
>
>
> I wouldn't trust EFTPOS.
> I've seen the problems that arise when somebody's card doesn't work and it
> holds up the whole supermarket queue.
> I've got a Visa credit card but only use it when there is no other way to
> pay.
Geo, that is bizarre. Most supermarket transactions are EFT-POS, and don't
>
> I wouldn't trust EFTPOS.
> I've seen the problems that arise when somebody's card doesn't work and it
> holds up the whole supermarket queue.
> I've got a Visa credit card but only use it when there is no other way to
> pay.
hold up the queue. VISA cards are essentially no different to EFT-POS cards
in use, and hold up the queue equally when they stuff up !
Ever been behind somebody trying to use a cheque at the supermarket ?
geoff
geoff
May 22, 2013, 4:38:22 PM5/22/13
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>
> Go into a Post shop and look at the scanners, THERE IS NO QUEUE this is
> the way I pay my bills, its Idiot proof.
Apparently.
geoff
>
> Go into a Post shop and look at the scanners, THERE IS NO QUEUE this is
> the way I pay my bills, its Idiot proof.
Apparently.
geoff
geoff
May 22, 2013, 4:39:51 PM5/22/13
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years or more, and nothing has ever gone wrong.
geoff
>
> Yes, I could pay cash at the Post Shop. I might try that for a few months.
> I wouldn't use computer banking or a credit card, too much to go wrong.
I used thosew two methods almost exlusively (apart from cash) for the last 5
> Yes, I could pay cash at the Post Shop. I might try that for a few months.
> I wouldn't use computer banking or a credit card, too much to go wrong.
years or more, and nothing has ever gone wrong.
geoff
geoff
May 22, 2013, 4:44:17 PM5/22/13
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(usually inconvenient) trip to the bank to deposit it.
geoff
>
>
> If that is true the volume of snail mail will decline even further. They
> are already saying it might be reduced to three deliveries a week.
> I wonder if the postal people will object to no posted cheques. It must be
> a large amount of their business.
Cheques are a pain in the arse. Receiving one means that I have to make a
>
> If that is true the volume of snail mail will decline even further. They
> are already saying it might be reduced to three deliveries a week.
> I wonder if the postal people will object to no posted cheques. It must be
> a large amount of their business.
(usually inconvenient) trip to the bank to deposit it.
geoff
geopelia
May 22, 2013, 5:52:51 PM5/22/13
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pockets.
It's been on TV.
geopelia
May 22, 2013, 6:18:43 PM5/22/13
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Countdown doesn't allow cheques unless some arrangement has been made with
them. I'm not sure what.
I like to get the groceries myself, but their delivery is great in this wet
weather!
them. I'm not sure what.
I like to get the groceries myself, but their delivery is great in this wet
weather!
geopelia
May 22, 2013, 6:24:59 PM5/22/13
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Aren't cheques good for about six months?
I deposit any when I next go to the bank.
I deposit any when I next go to the bank.
Donchano
May 22, 2013, 6:37:17 PM5/22/13
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fairly late in the month or not at all. When I've called to complain
they've pressured me to switch to a "paperless" statement (eg: email)
or direct debit. Since I've caught multiple instances of overcharging
over the years I don't want to hand them carte blanche with direct
debit.
When I say I don't want to do direct debit they counter by saying I
should pay online instead of with a cheque. Two cheques, actually. One
from my wife and the housekeeping account and one from me to cover
broadband and the extras like callminder, etc.
I figure they delay mailing statements and miss out a few just to
force customers like us to switch to the online options.
-Newsman-
May 22, 2013, 7:50:24 PM5/22/13
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...just round the corner in Camp Street. Best of all, there's your
regular daily pie shop right next door.
(Google streetview)
Bruce Sinclair
May 22, 2013, 7:12:19 PM5/22/13
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In article <knjg09$jfv$1...@dont-email.me>, "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>"geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:3vmdneNiebYzsQDM...@giganews.com...
>> "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:knhbbt$dob$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> I wouldn't trust EFTPOS.
>>> I've seen the problems that arise when somebody's card doesn't work and
>>> it holds up the whole supermarket queue.
>>> I've got a Visa credit card but only use it when there is no other way to
>>> pay.
>> Geo, that is bizarre. Most supermarket transactions are EFT-POS, and don't
>> hold up the queue. VISA cards are essentially no different to EFT-POS
>> cards in use, and hold up the queue equally when they stuff up !
>> Ever been behind somebody trying to use a cheque at the supermarket ?
Yep. :)
>"geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:3vmdneNiebYzsQDM...@giganews.com...
>> "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:knhbbt$dob$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> I wouldn't trust EFTPOS.
>>> I've seen the problems that arise when somebody's card doesn't work and
>>> it holds up the whole supermarket queue.
>>> I've got a Visa credit card but only use it when there is no other way to
>>> pay.
>> Geo, that is bizarre. Most supermarket transactions are EFT-POS, and don't
>> hold up the queue. VISA cards are essentially no different to EFT-POS
>> cards in use, and hold up the queue equally when they stuff up !
>> Ever been behind somebody trying to use a cheque at the supermarket ?
Have to admit, that's sort of me these days too. We do most of our shopping
with a farmlands card ... and that requires a signature. Long may it
continue. :) :)
Bruce Sinclair
May 22, 2013, 7:13:09 PM5/22/13
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reliable source ? :) :)
Bruce Sinclair
May 22, 2013, 7:13:59 PM5/22/13
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In article <knjefo$but$1...@dont-email.me>, "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>"geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:8OKdnROQEau1sADM...@giganews.com...
>> "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:kngpdg$p69$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> Yes, I could pay cash at the Post Shop. I might try that for a few
>>> months.
>>> I wouldn't use computer banking or a credit card, too much to go wrong.
>>
>> I used thosew two methods almost exlusively (apart from cash) for the last
>> 5 years or more, and nothing has ever gone wrong.
>"geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:8OKdnROQEau1sADM...@giganews.com...
>> "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:kngpdg$p69$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> Yes, I could pay cash at the Post Shop. I might try that for a few
>>> months.
>>> I wouldn't use computer banking or a credit card, too much to go wrong.
>>
>> I used thosew two methods almost exlusively (apart from cash) for the last
>> 5 years or more, and nothing has ever gone wrong.
>You've been lucky. It seems now they can read credit cards from peoples'
>pockets.
>It's been on TV.
.. so it must be true ? :) :)
>pockets.
>It's been on TV.
Bruce Sinclair
May 22, 2013, 7:15:23 PM5/22/13
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banks I deal with (ASB and TSB). :)
Fred
May 22, 2013, 8:53:55 PM5/22/13
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-Newsman-
May 22, 2013, 10:05:01 PM5/22/13
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do you think?
After all, S&P fucked up over Lehman Bros in 2008, didn't they, and
they have never told anyone where the money disppeared to. From
gold-plated AAA to total collapse in less than a month, as I recall.
S & P! There's financial probity and competence for you!
Pooh
May 23, 2013, 4:09:36 AM5/23/13
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"-Newsman-" <sla...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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world. You should never have taken comprehension lessons from Dickhead you
crazy prat! Your so bloody crazy now I doubt if anything apart from a cliff
would cure your dementia -Madman-.
> (Google streetview)
>
I'm surprised your mentaly caqpable of doing anything but dribble and fill
your treasures for that warm comfortable feeling you like so well -Madman-
Pooh
May 23, 2013, 4:12:46 AM5/23/13
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What the fuck are you raving about you crazy pommie prick? Your confusing
KiwiBank (which I've been telling you for months is a disaster) with a
perfectly reputable bank. But you carry on rambling about
yourhalucinations -Madman-. It provides us all with a huge laugh watching an
overopinionated classless loser display just how far round the bend he is.
Sad..but hugely amusing.
Pooh
KiwiBank (which I've been telling you for months is a disaster) with a
perfectly reputable bank. But you carry on rambling about
yourhalucinations -Madman-. It provides us all with a huge laugh watching an
overopinionated classless loser display just how far round the bend he is.
Sad..but hugely amusing.
Pooh
-Newsman-
May 23, 2013, 5:12:36 AM5/23/13
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Alert! Alert!
This is a wakeup call for the confused and dozy old Trentham Troll:
S&P has downgraded the Cooperative Bank from stable to negative.
Standby forthe bank to advise this to you online very shortly.
Pooh
May 23, 2013, 9:08:27 AM5/23/13
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Provide a cite you dozy prat. Unless it's another of your halfassed stories.
Pooh
Pooh
Pooh
May 23, 2013, 9:15:01 AM5/23/13
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Nice snip -Madman-. The full post read "What the fuck are you raving about
getting confused with KiwiBank you daft prat? Or are you confusing what was
the PSISW with a similar named bank domiciled in the UK.
Pooh
you crazy pommie prick? Your confusing
KiwiBank (which I've been telling you for months is a disaster) with a
perfectly reputable bank. But you carry on rambling about
yourhalucinations -Madman-. It provides us all with a huge laugh watching an
overopinionated classless loser display just how far round the bend he is.
Sad..but hugely amusing."
Funny how your the only one trumpeting this information. Sure your not
KiwiBank (which I've been telling you for months is a disaster) with a
perfectly reputable bank. But you carry on rambling about
yourhalucinations -Madman-. It provides us all with a huge laugh watching an
overopinionated classless loser display just how far round the bend he is.
Sad..but hugely amusing."
getting confused with KiwiBank you daft prat? Or are you confusing what was
the PSISW with a similar named bank domiciled in the UK.
Pooh
geopelia
May 23, 2013, 9:19:44 AM5/23/13
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"Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote in message
We got caught in their last freeze (as PSIS) but we got the money back in
the end.
They seem to be downgrading a lot of small banks, including Kiwibank.
geopelia
May 23, 2013, 9:20:54 AM5/23/13
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geopelia
May 23, 2013, 9:22:31 AM5/23/13
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"Bruce Sinclair" <bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz> wrote
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do they look like, anyway?
geopelia
May 23, 2013, 9:24:22 AM5/23/13
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Not the few organisations who send me cheques.
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Pooh
May 23, 2013, 7:09:39 PM5/23/13
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I'm guessing -Madman- has the Coperative bank confused with KiwiBank Geo.
Like you I was caught in the freeze. I know many who ditched the PSIS when
the freeze occoured. Only to crawl back later when everything was
straightened out.
Pooh
Like you I was caught in the freeze. I know many who ditched the PSIS when
the freeze occoured. Only to crawl back later when everything was
straightened out.
Pooh
John Little
May 23, 2013, 8:39:36 PM5/23/13
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geopelia wrote:
> I wouldn't use computer banking..., too much to go wrong.
Yes, but you can see it go wrong, and can be on to it straight away. Paying
by post you don't know when it will be presented, and if it goes astray
you're left wondering what has happened. When most payments were made by
cheque people would have to run a float to cope with the variations in the
post and the recipients banking; it would take a lot of energy. And if
something went wrong, it could take weeks to sort it out.
I just wish there was an easy way to validate the bank account numbers of
those I wish to pay.
--
Regards, John Little
> I wouldn't use computer banking..., too much to go wrong.
Yes, but you can see it go wrong, and can be on to it straight away. Paying
by post you don't know when it will be presented, and if it goes astray
you're left wondering what has happened. When most payments were made by
cheque people would have to run a float to cope with the variations in the
post and the recipients banking; it would take a lot of energy. And if
something went wrong, it could take weeks to sort it out.
I just wish there was an easy way to validate the bank account numbers of
those I wish to pay.
--
Regards, John Little
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-Newsman-
May 23, 2013, 9:32:31 PM5/23/13
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I commend you, sir, for your uncharacteristically sharp and accurate
observation. No reason, you see, for your self-abusing, incoherent
twaddle to be foisted on others more than once.
>Funny how your the only one trumpeting this information.
Wakey, wakey, Trentham Troll! It's been trumpeted all over the show,
you vulgar little twerp.
S&P's downgrade (for what it's worth) of the bank that holds your loot
was made known across the broadcast, print and online media a week
ago. The cites and commentary are plentiful and they're all there at
the click of a mouse. Go on, look them up yourself, you indolent,
incompetent halfwit. Or simply call 0800 554 554 for their verbal
confirmation.
And know that it's entirely appropriate that I so indulgently draw
your attention to this event since it is in the context of your
previous remark in this thread that specifically appertains to your
own personal circumstances.
Now run along like a good little fellow and do get out of everyone's
way. You make such a mess of the place.
Fred
May 23, 2013, 9:37:01 PM5/23/13
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they just pay into your account. You do not need to set up internet
banking to accept payments to your account. Makes things much easier,
and cheaper for the payer.
Pooh
May 23, 2013, 11:31:41 PM5/23/13
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<another insane rant from -Madman- snipped>
>>Funny how your the only one trumpeting this information.
>
> Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!
>
> Wakey, wakey, Trentham Troll! It's been trumpeted all over the show,
> you vulgar little twerp.
>
Liar! Your lack of a cite confirms this.
> S&P's downgrade (for what it's worth) of the bank that holds your loot
> was made known across the broadcast, print and online media a week
> ago. The cites and commentary are plentiful and they're all there at
> the click of a mouse. Go on, look them up yourself, you indolent,
> incompetent halfwit. Or simply call 0800 554 554 for their verbal
> confirmation.
>
No downgrade happened -Madman-. Once againm you got half a story due to the
inability of the media to get anything right. Guess they're like you and are
just overfull of their own superiority.
> And know that it's entirely appropriate that I so indulgently draw
> your attention to this event since it is in the context of your
> previous remark in this thread that specifically appertains to your
> own personal circumstances.
>
Can't quite figure which of your halucinations are controlling you
here -Madman-. But it's must be a doozey. You been overdoing the meds and
cooking sherry again?
> Now run along like a good little fellow and do get out of everyone's
> way. You make such a mess of the place.
Not running anywhere -Madfman-. Leaqve that to demented twerps like you. As
to messing up the place I'm surprised you can notice any extra mess over and
above the mess you strew around the place.
Pooh
>>Funny how your the only one trumpeting this information.
>
> Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!
>
> Wakey, wakey, Trentham Troll! It's been trumpeted all over the show,
> you vulgar little twerp.
>
> S&P's downgrade (for what it's worth) of the bank that holds your loot
> was made known across the broadcast, print and online media a week
> ago. The cites and commentary are plentiful and they're all there at
> the click of a mouse. Go on, look them up yourself, you indolent,
> incompetent halfwit. Or simply call 0800 554 554 for their verbal
> confirmation.
>
inability of the media to get anything right. Guess they're like you and are
just overfull of their own superiority.
> And know that it's entirely appropriate that I so indulgently draw
> your attention to this event since it is in the context of your
> previous remark in this thread that specifically appertains to your
> own personal circumstances.
>
here -Madman-. But it's must be a doozey. You been overdoing the meds and
cooking sherry again?
> Now run along like a good little fellow and do get out of everyone's
> way. You make such a mess of the place.
to messing up the place I'm surprised you can notice any extra mess over and
above the mess you strew around the place.
Pooh
-Newsman-
May 24, 2013, 12:57:30 AM5/24/13
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you in a couple of clicks were you not so pitiably institutionlised
into such abject helplessness and absurd, hopeless uselessness.
Presumably your poor old put-upon mother is still breastfeeding you
and wiping your backside as well?
geopelia
May 24, 2013, 7:57:30 AM5/24/13
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"Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote in message
mortgage on the Wednesday.
To his great surprise he got it.
(The first mortgage was with State Advances at 3% interest. Those were the
days! 1970s)
geopelia
May 24, 2013, 8:25:31 AM5/24/13
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> They have 2 here in Kapiti and they are on the side of the wall no
> quene at all.
Our post shop does car registrations etc as well as bills. There is usually
a queue.
> quene at all.
Our post shop does car registrations etc as well as bills. There is usually
a queue.
geopelia
May 24, 2013, 8:27:20 AM5/24/13
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They would have to write to me for my account number, so it's just as easy
to send the cheque.
to send the cheque.
Pooh
May 24, 2013, 8:49:06 AM5/24/13
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But the claim the Cooperative bank has been downgraded is untrue -Madman-.
And if you could in fact backup your claim you'd provide a cite. I've done
several searches and found nothing. My bet is you overdid the meds and
cooking sherry again and dreamt the whole thing. My source is the local
manager who is far more reliable than you and your keyboard interviewing
cohorts.
> Presumably your poor old put-upon mother is still breastfeeding you
> and wiping your backside as well?
Havn't got as tolearant a mother as you -Madman- she stopped all of that
about sixtyfour years ago. But guess the likes of you never grow out of the
need for constant attention -Madman-.
Pooh
And if you could in fact backup your claim you'd provide a cite. I've done
several searches and found nothing. My bet is you overdid the meds and
cooking sherry again and dreamt the whole thing. My source is the local
manager who is far more reliable than you and your keyboard interviewing
cohorts.
> Presumably your poor old put-upon mother is still breastfeeding you
> and wiping your backside as well?
about sixtyfour years ago. But guess the likes of you never grow out of the
need for constant attention -Madman-.
Pooh
Dave Doe
May 24, 2013, 11:17:24 AM5/24/13
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In article <knnm36$7td$1...@dont-email.me>, geop...@nowhere.com, geopelia
says...
Naa, why waste time and expensive snail mail - just tell 'em you're on
Usenet :)
--
Duncan.
says...
Usenet :)
--
Duncan.
geopelia
May 24, 2013, 5:40:13 PM5/24/13
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geopelia
May 24, 2013, 5:48:17 PM5/24/13
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They grade banks with letters like AA or BB. I forget which changed.
But it seems that doesn't mean what people would assume it means.
It's still quite safe.
Dave Doe
May 24, 2013, 7:23:18 PM5/24/13
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In article <knomfs$967$1...@dont-email.me>, geop...@nowhere.com, geopelia
says...
Well perhaps you could phone them. Then again I guess they don't have
one of those either.
I have to add: I haven't used my personal or biz cheque book for
probably some five years now. Indeed, it annoys me if I get paid by
cheque. I have to go the bloody bank! Or... perhaps I could snail mail
it in - but then I'd need to buy a stamp, so I guess I'd have to go to
the shop or post office. Then there's the two business days for it to
clear (better than the five of old admittedly - no doubt thanks to
computer cheque readers and computer processing).
Paperless transactions done on the PC are secure, convenient, easy, fast
and cheap. I've changed my statement ordering (online of course!) so I
don't get printed statements anymore. If I want to I can print them out
direct from the bank page, but I don't bother with that. What a waste
of paper and ink and expense and time. I just export the transactions
and have 'em all on the PC (as spreadsheets). I can search transactions
in seconds, re-order the 'statements', add more details, create my own
fields, etc. My downloaded/exported 'statements' are backed up
automatically with no intervention required by me to the 'cloud', onsite
removable drive, and offsite (simply swapping the drive out - takes
twenty seconds).
--
Duncan.
says...
one of those either.
I have to add: I haven't used my personal or biz cheque book for
probably some five years now. Indeed, it annoys me if I get paid by
cheque. I have to go the bloody bank! Or... perhaps I could snail mail
it in - but then I'd need to buy a stamp, so I guess I'd have to go to
the shop or post office. Then there's the two business days for it to
clear (better than the five of old admittedly - no doubt thanks to
computer cheque readers and computer processing).
Paperless transactions done on the PC are secure, convenient, easy, fast
and cheap. I've changed my statement ordering (online of course!) so I
don't get printed statements anymore. If I want to I can print them out
direct from the bank page, but I don't bother with that. What a waste
of paper and ink and expense and time. I just export the transactions
and have 'em all on the PC (as spreadsheets). I can search transactions
in seconds, re-order the 'statements', add more details, create my own
fields, etc. My downloaded/exported 'statements' are backed up
automatically with no intervention required by me to the 'cloud', onsite
removable drive, and offsite (simply swapping the drive out - takes
twenty seconds).
--
Duncan.
Pooh
May 25, 2013, 12:43:55 AM5/25/13
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From what I was told nothing changed or will change for a couple of years.
It hinges on the housing bubble being brought under control.
Pooh
It hinges on the housing bubble being brought under control.
Pooh
geoff
May 25, 2013, 1:48:19 AM5/25/13
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geoff
>
> They would have to write to me for my account number, so it's just as easy
> to send the cheque.
Phone, email ?
> They would have to write to me for my account number, so it's just as easy
> to send the cheque.
geoff
Richard
May 25, 2013, 8:08:43 AM5/25/13
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On 5/22/2013 1:38 AM, geopelia wrote:
> Has anybody else got an email from Telecom about a new bill?
>
> They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say anything
> about paying by cheque.
> I've asked about that and will see what they say.
> Perhaps it's just a mistake leaving it off their email, or perhaps they
> think people will take it for granted that they can still pay by cheque.
> I wouldn't mind printing the bill out from the computer, but what of those
> who don't have one?
>
> I'm sure I won't be the only customer who dumps them if they stop accepting
> cheques.
> Unfortunately that will have to include xtra and probably their mobile
> phones too, but I haven't got a mobile yet.
>
> Has anybody else got an email from Telecom about a new bill?
>
> They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say anything
> about paying by cheque.
> I've asked about that and will see what they say.
> Perhaps it's just a mistake leaving it off their email, or perhaps they
> think people will take it for granted that they can still pay by cheque.
> I wouldn't mind printing the bill out from the computer, but what of those
> who don't have one?
>
> I'm sure I won't be the only customer who dumps them if they stop accepting
> cheques.
> Unfortunately that will have to include xtra and probably their mobile
> phones too, but I haven't got a mobile yet.
>
> What a nuisance, I've been with them ever since we got a phone.
>
> I await developments.
>
Well I know that even with their stupid new online account system you
still cant pay them online, and they charge a fee to call their contact
center to pay them over the phone. So I have to print my bill out, since
the post shops scanners cant deal with a phone screen, and go to the
post shop to pay them if I want to use my card to get the rewards points
on it.
Richard
May 25, 2013, 8:11:31 AM5/25/13
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On 5/23/2013 1:54 AM, geopelia wrote:
>
> ASB doesn't. The statement just shows the cheque numbers.
> I write the details in the chequebook myself, which works OK.
>
> The Direct Debits come out of the savings account, where the Super goes.
> All I get is a little square of paper to put in the savings book, when I
> update it.
> There are code letters like DD for various items, but not which DD.
> I have to work that out myself. So far St John is a fixed amount, and the
> other must be Countdown.
> It will get confusing if I have other DDs, especially if Telecom stops
> sending a bill.
>
> Visa sends a statement showing details, whether I have used it that month or
> not.
> Usually I haven't. I don't believe in credit cards, but for some things
> nothing else is accepted.
> Of course the bank pays it off every month automatically.
Is the square of paper you get the mini statement from the ATM? I was
appauled at how useless those were when I last got one. Online has all
the info about when and where you spend eftpos (date only, no time
unfortunatly) and who is direct debiting you if you allow them to do that.
I had to get a mini statement and get it stamped by the bank as being
real to satisfy work and incomes bizzare requirements for proof of bank
account, since apparantly me printing it from my internet banking was
not good enough.
>
> ASB doesn't. The statement just shows the cheque numbers.
> I write the details in the chequebook myself, which works OK.
>
> The Direct Debits come out of the savings account, where the Super goes.
> All I get is a little square of paper to put in the savings book, when I
> update it.
> There are code letters like DD for various items, but not which DD.
> I have to work that out myself. So far St John is a fixed amount, and the
> other must be Countdown.
> It will get confusing if I have other DDs, especially if Telecom stops
> sending a bill.
>
> Visa sends a statement showing details, whether I have used it that month or
> not.
> Usually I haven't. I don't believe in credit cards, but for some things
> nothing else is accepted.
> Of course the bank pays it off every month automatically.
Is the square of paper you get the mini statement from the ATM? I was
appauled at how useless those were when I last got one. Online has all
the info about when and where you spend eftpos (date only, no time
unfortunatly) and who is direct debiting you if you allow them to do that.
I had to get a mini statement and get it stamped by the bank as being
real to satisfy work and incomes bizzare requirements for proof of bank
account, since apparantly me printing it from my internet banking was
not good enough.
geopelia
May 25, 2013, 10:14:06 AM5/25/13
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there is a savings book with transparent pockets to keep it in.
Handy to keep track of the balance, but with very little information.
Hubby had an ATM account, but I will be taking it all out for a term
deposit.
I get a statement once a year of what interest was earned, for the income
tax people.
geopelia
May 25, 2013, 10:16:23 AM5/25/13
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If they have those.
geopelia
May 25, 2013, 10:23:08 AM5/25/13
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I got the phone bill today, stamped COPY. I've sent them a cheque.
Let's see what they do. It still says how to pay by cheque on it.
I don't think there are any reward points on mine.
Genesis has Brownie points, but each month they take off as many as they put
on, so the total doesn't go up.
Let's see what they do. It still says how to pay by cheque on it.
I don't think there are any reward points on mine.
Genesis has Brownie points, but each month they take off as many as they put
on, so the total doesn't go up.
geoff
May 26, 2013, 2:11:23 AM5/26/13
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Two lots of postage, man-hours, fuel, etc.
geoff
"No trees were harmed in the sending of this email. However a great number
of electrons were highly inconvenienced...."
>
>
> I got the phone bill today, stamped COPY. I've sent them a cheque.
> Let's see what they do. It still says how to pay by cheque on it.
Tutt tutt.
>
> I got the phone bill today, stamped COPY. I've sent them a cheque.
> Let's see what they do. It still says how to pay by cheque on it.
Two lots of postage, man-hours, fuel, etc.
geoff
"No trees were harmed in the sending of this email. However a great number
of electrons were highly inconvenienced...."
geoff
May 26, 2013, 2:12:48 AM5/26/13
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If they haven't, I wouldn't be too confident about a cheque from them !
geoff
geoff
geopelia
May 26, 2013, 9:07:03 AM5/26/13
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Why not? I wrote cheques for many years before we got either a phone or a
computer, and none ever bounced.
computer, and none ever bounced.
geopelia
May 26, 2013, 9:08:48 AM5/26/13
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Yes, they stopped sending a Freepost envelope a while ago. But good old
Genesis still sends one.
Genesis still sends one.
Bruce Sinclair
May 26, 2013, 7:40:05 PM5/26/13
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In article <knl4rn$ptq$1...@dont-email.me>, "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote:
(snip)
>>>You've been lucky. It seems now they can read credit cards from peoples'
>>>pockets.
>>>It's been on TV.
>>
>> .. so it must be true ? :) :)
>TV seemed to think so.
Sources Geo. :) I wouldn't trust TV further than I could spit one for right
information. Far too much fear being sold these days. :)
(snip)
>>>You've been lucky. It seems now they can read credit cards from peoples'
>>>pockets.
>>>It's been on TV.
>>
>> .. so it must be true ? :) :)
>TV seemed to think so.
Sources Geo. :) I wouldn't trust TV further than I could spit one for right
information. Far too much fear being sold these days. :)
Bruce Sinclair
May 26, 2013, 7:45:58 PM5/26/13
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In article <fu-dnYE_7PYHOjzM...@giganews.com>, "geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote:
>"geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:knqh88$thi$1...@dont-email.me...
>> I got the phone bill today, stamped COPY. I've sent them a cheque.
>> Let's see what they do. It still says how to pay by cheque on it.
>Tutt tutt.
>
>Two lots of postage, man-hours, fuel, etc.
..so you want 3 day mail delivery and unemployed posties ? :) :)
>"geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:knqh88$thi$1...@dont-email.me...
>> I got the phone bill today, stamped COPY. I've sent them a cheque.
>> Let's see what they do. It still says how to pay by cheque on it.
>Tutt tutt.
>
>Two lots of postage, man-hours, fuel, etc.
Not me. :)
Bruce Sinclair
May 26, 2013, 7:47:36 PM5/26/13
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In article <knt18p$8jq$1...@dont-email.me>, "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>"geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:fu-dnYE_7PYHOjzM...@giganews.com...
>> "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:knqh88$thi$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> I got the phone bill today, stamped COPY. I've sent them a cheque.
>>> Let's see what they do. It still says how to pay by cheque on it.
>> Tutt tutt.
>>
>> Two lots of postage, man-hours, fuel, etc.
>"geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:fu-dnYE_7PYHOjzM...@giganews.com...
>> "geopelia" <geop...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:knqh88$thi$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> I got the phone bill today, stamped COPY. I've sent them a cheque.
>>> Let's see what they do. It still says how to pay by cheque on it.
>> Tutt tutt.
>>
>> Two lots of postage, man-hours, fuel, etc.
>Yes, they stopped sending a Freepost envelope a while ago. But good old
>Genesis still sends one.
Remember to write down the freepost number on the freepost envelope while
>Genesis still sends one.
you can. If they ever stop sending them, write "freepost" and that number on
the enveope. :)
Pooh
May 27, 2013, 4:16:30 AM5/27/13
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Do you save your Freepost envelopes if you don't use them Geo? If so use one
and just change the address to send your cheque ;)
Pooh
and just change the address to send your cheque ;)
Pooh
rmcnu...@gmail.com
May 27, 2013, 4:56:55 AM5/27/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:38:32 AM UTC+12, geopelia wrote:
> Has anybody else got an email from Telecom about a new bill? They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say anything about paying by cheque.
Hi Geopelia
> Has anybody else got an email from Telecom about a new bill? They seem to have a lot of fancy new ways to pay now, but don't say anything about paying by cheque.
I was an early adopter of phone banking, then internet banking. I'm not young - I recently became a pensioner.
Paying bills online is great. I spend about 10 min a week, and end up with the bills paid, a summary report and an accurate bank balance - no waiting for cheques to be presented.
And the economics are hard to refute - I think $0.30 for an electronic bill payment, vs $0.50 for a cheque, and $0.50 for a stamp and $0.15 for the envelope. (Don't quote me on the figures as it is ages since I sent a letter).
I've never had a problem with security. You can pay almost everyone online these days. All banks provide a really intuitive interface, and I have never accidentally over or under paid (I'm with BNZ).
Give it a go - you obviously have the computer skills and can always revert to cheques, but I suspect you will get hooked.
geoff
May 27, 2013, 6:26:19 AM5/27/13
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easy. Too easy maybe. And can be a little addictive if you are that way
inclined (I suspect you are not !).
geoff
geopelia
May 27, 2013, 9:02:35 AM5/27/13
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"Bruce Sinclair" <bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz> wrote
in message news:knu9p6$262$1...@dont-email.me...
from his credit card.
I never take mine shopping, so don't have to worry.
TV isn't what it was back in the old black and white days.
Brains haven't kept up with technology.
geopelia
May 27, 2013, 9:06:52 AM5/27/13
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"Bruce Sinclair" <bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz> wrote
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I'm considering Direct Debit.
geopelia
May 27, 2013, 9:08:11 AM5/27/13
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"Pooh" <pa...@bigots.lie> wrote in message
strife with somebody over it.
geopelia
May 27, 2013, 9:16:42 AM5/27/13
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"Bruce Sinclair" <bruce.s...@NOSPAMORELSEagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz> wrote
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bike helmet.
There weren't all the holidays either.
When it was a public holiday, we had to work the Saturdays. Now they get
them off.
But we got equal pay before that became universal.
It was a good job in those days.
The more they make snail mail inconvenient, the more of us will use email. I
do wherever possible now.
geopelia
May 27, 2013, 9:21:37 AM5/27/13
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bank to send me banknotes. :-)
I prefer cash whenever possible, and cheques for the rest. But I might have
to get more Direct Debits later on.
geopelia
May 27, 2013, 9:32:38 AM5/27/13
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I have to use a credit card for Trend micro, they won't accept anything
else.
Apart from that I only used it for things Hubby wanted that he saw on TV.
Now it won't get used more than about twice a year.
But I have it paid off by the Bank every month, so can't get thousands of
dollars in debt like some silly people.
I see Countdown have got themselves a credit card.
That could be a good idea for people who use one a lot.
They will get Onecard points when they use it anywhere.
(I've got the Onecard of course, but that is a different thing altogether.)
else.
Apart from that I only used it for things Hubby wanted that he saw on TV.
Now it won't get used more than about twice a year.
But I have it paid off by the Bank every month, so can't get thousands of
dollars in debt like some silly people.
I see Countdown have got themselves a credit card.
That could be a good idea for people who use one a lot.
They will get Onecard points when they use it anywhere.
(I've got the Onecard of course, but that is a different thing altogether.)
Pooh
May 27, 2013, 9:51:07 AM5/27/13
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Why? You've alraedy paid for it Geo. I don't do it regularly but I've done
it in the past and will continue to do it in the future.
Pooh
it in the past and will continue to do it in the future.
Pooh
geoff
May 27, 2013, 4:57:35 PM5/27/13
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geoff
>
>> revert to cheques, but I suspect you will get hooked.
>
> No, I wouldn't do internet banking. There is no slot on my computer for
> the bank to send me banknotes. :-)
You have to open the attachment !
>> revert to cheques, but I suspect you will get hooked.
>
> No, I wouldn't do internet banking. There is no slot on my computer for
> the bank to send me banknotes. :-)
geoff
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