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Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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Jul 14, 2006, 5:12:30 AM7/14/06
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Hey, look: <http://www.trimmail.com/news/elsewhere/data/1152828902.2/>.
Some guys in NZ, no less, have come up with a way to get your Windows
update patches without having to run any Internet Explorer code, or
needing anything resembling ActiveX at all.

SchoolTech

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Jul 16, 2006, 7:48:18 PM7/16/06
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Now, why would you ditch IE if you're still running Windows?

rebel

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Jul 16, 2006, 8:04:22 PM7/16/06
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Probably for the same reason that you have ditched Outlook Express for
reading newsgroups.

TomC

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Jul 16, 2006, 9:20:38 PM7/16/06
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rebel wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:48:18 +1200, SchoolTech wrote:
>
>
>>Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>>Hey, look: <http://www.trimmail.com/news/elsewhere/data/1152828902.2/>.
>>>Some guys in NZ, no less, have come up with a way to get your Windows
>>>update patches without having to run any Internet Explorer code, or
>>>needing anything resembling ActiveX at all.
>>
>>Now, why would you ditch IE if you're still running Windows?

Because.... hackers who have corrupted webpages can fly right
thru IE into yr operating system as they are totally integrated.
Best to use Firefox or Opera.
Tom

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Jul 17, 2006, 2:18:25 AM7/17/06
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GraB wrote:
> There is a widget (Stay Secure) for the Opera browser that gets data
> from http://secunia.com/ that shows the security of IE, Firefox,
> Opera, Safari and Konqueror. IE has 21 hole, Firefox 4, Opera 0,
> Safari 2, and Konqueror 1. Good reason for staying away from IE.

Of course, being an Opera widget, it would say "Opera 0".

I personally use Firefox 99/9% of the time and only use IE under duress,
there are a few sites I go to that only work with IE. :-(
--
Shaun.


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Keith

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Jul 17, 2006, 6:39:46 AM7/17/06
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In article <ldo-3D529E.2...@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ldo@geek-
central.gen.new_zealand says...
Brian Livingston doesn't think it's too flash:
"WindizUpdate.com is not a recommended solution

Many readers in the past few weeks have asked me about WindizUpdate.com.
This Web site, launched in 2005, scans your computer for needed Windows
patches and then displays links to the relevant download locations at
Microsoft.com.

Unfortunately, as promising as this approach may seem, after
investigation I can't recommend this site. Here are a few reasons why:

1. The site installs an unsigned control, which performs the scanning
and reporting function. Without a digital signature, you can't verify
that the control is really from the same people who manage the site
itself.

2. The scan process asks several times to read the Registry. If you know
that WindizUpdate is perfectly legitimate, which I have no reason to
doubt, this might be fine. But it's bothersome, while at the same time
it's too risky to click "Always allow this site," which would permit too
many unknown future actions.

3. The site is a part-time hobby with no visible means of support. There
are many fine pieces of software and Web services that are free of
charge. But WindizUpdate is performing a serious security task and
doesn't have a team of programmers that's adequate to develop it, much
less provide technical support if the user base grows."

...more at http://www.windowssecrets.com/comp/060629/

And an alternative at:
"Free Windows Update alternative is released"
http://www.windowssecrets.com/comp/060713/

SchoolTech

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Jul 20, 2006, 3:33:35 AM7/20/06
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Thunderbird is better at IMAP mail than Outlook/OE.

Doesn't mean IE sucks. IE works very well with IIS on our intranet.
Firefox doesn't, due to the closed mindset mentality of its developers
who refuse to develop for Windows technologies.

SchoolTech

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Jul 20, 2006, 3:34:07 AM7/20/06
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GraB wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:20:38 +1200, TomC <ca...@xxxxihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
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> There is a widget (Stay Secure) for the Opera browser that gets data
> from http://secunia.com/ that shows the security of IE, Firefox,
> Opera, Safari and Konqueror. IE has 21 hole, Firefox 4, Opera 0,
> Safari 2, and Konqueror 1. Good reason for staying away from IE.

Not in IE7 Beta3 I bet ya


Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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Jul 20, 2006, 3:54:12 AM7/20/06
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In message <44bf...@clear.net.nz>, SchoolTech wrote:

> GraB wrote:
>
>> There is a widget (Stay Secure) for the Opera browser that gets data
>> from http://secunia.com/ that shows the security of IE, Firefox,
>> Opera, Safari and Konqueror. IE has 21 hole, Firefox 4, Opera 0,
>> Safari 2, and Konqueror 1. Good reason for staying away from IE.
>
> Not in IE7 Beta3 I bet ya

The features in IE7 don't seem to be oriented to encouraging people to
switch _to_ IE7 from Firefox. They just seem to be trying to stem the tide
of people switching _from_ IE6 to Firefox.

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