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Krazy Bob

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Oct 31, 2005, 6:57:10 PM10/31/05
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Hey guys, im having problems with my comp running at 100% all the time for
no apparent reason.

it all started last night when I tried playing battlefield 2 and it kept
freezing on me.
then I noticed my anti virus (avast) doing its "scanning" but scanning what
I don't know.

i've rebooted atleast 10 times, and every time it loads up it goes straight
to 100 and never drops. my task manager says ashservice.exe is the memory
hogger which is part of the antivirus.

attempts to shut down the antivirus have failed by causing the computer to
become unresponsive.
its taken me 23mins to load up windows, open OE express. click news groups,
open new post and type this out.

What do you guys think could be happening??
I've done a virus scan and it came up clean, can't do spyware search
because the comps already at 100%.

any suggestions greatly appreciated

KB


Peter

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Oct 31, 2005, 7:35:52 PM10/31/05
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Krazy Bob wrote:

>
> What do you guys think could be happening??
> I've done a virus scan and it came up clean, can't do spyware search
> because the comps already at 100%.
>
> any suggestions greatly appreciated
>

Is CPU running at 100% when connected to internet? If so it is probably a
'zombie' sending out spam and / or 'DOS' attacks. If an anti-virus program
cannot find it, there is probably little option but to re-load Windows.
Even better, dump Windows and go to Linux / Open Office.


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shannon

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Oct 31, 2005, 9:03:31 PM10/31/05
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XP wrote:
> Only Lunatics Use Lunix..
>
>

You use it every time you Google.

steve

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Oct 31, 2005, 10:50:12 PM10/31/05
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Peter wrote:

> Even better, dump Windows and go to Linux / Open Office.

But I don't think he can play Battlefield 2 on Linux (yet).

So he's stuck with Windows at least for that game.


steve

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Oct 31, 2005, 10:51:02 PM10/31/05
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XP wrote:

> Only Lunatics Use Lunix..

Why bother posting this drivel, Roger?

It just makes you look stupid.


Impossible

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Oct 31, 2005, 11:24:31 PM10/31/05
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"Krazy Bob" <@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What OS? What CPU speed? How much memory? Anti-virus programs can be
cpu and resource-hungry. So your problem might be nothing more than
that you've got a background av scan running and your system can't
handle it. If your system is well-equipped, hardware-wise, and this
problem developed all-of-a-sudden, then I'd suspect malware of some
sort.

For the time being I'll assume you're running Windows 98 or later. Go
Run...msconfig. Select a diagnostic startup and disable everything in
the startup menu that you don't absolutely trust EXCEPT your
anti-virus program (I'm being conservative here -- your antivirus
program might be set to start in background scan mode, and you'll
probably want to diable that at some point. But first let's eliminate
the possibility that some other program is hogging your cpu). Also
disable any automatic connection to the net. Then reboot and see what
happens.

If your problem disappears at this stage, then good -- you're AV is
fine, and the problem is with one of the startup programs you
sdiabled. Work back through the msconfig list, enabling one thing at a
time and then rebooting (painful, but thios works) until you find find
the trouble.

If you're problem hasn't disappeared, then it's trickier. Keep all
your other startup program disabled. Then I would first try letting
your AV run whatever scan it's trying to do -- depending on your
hardware, this could take hours, but just let it run overnight.
hopefully at some point, it ends. (If not, it's time to think about
either beefing up your hardware or replacing your AV.) If the scan
finishes and your cpu is free again, then you know that you have to
set your AV to only do scanning at a time of your choosing. Just to be
on the safe side, I'd grab one or more trial versions of some other
anti-virus program and run these in full scan mode on your machine.
Then run the anti-spyware programs you couldn't run before. When
you're satisfied that your system is clean, enable a normal startup
from msconfig and confirm that everything is back to normal.

BTW, the only mention of "ashservice" that I can find on Google refers
to some catch-all search portal. That's not a good sign. Are you sure
that the correct name of your av module is ashservice.exe? If not,
include that in the list of programs you intitially disable.


and Hyde@gmail.com Jekyll and Hyde

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Oct 31, 2005, 11:51:28 PM10/31/05
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"Krazy Bob" <@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Do you currently have a process named "~e5.0001" running?
Its the buggy Macrovision copyright process, and its extremely buggy, and
doesn't always terminate correctly when the app that called it is fininshed
(crashed etc), and if killed it will restart.
If it is responsible there's nothing you can do except complain to
Macrovision.

Jekyll and Hyde.


Krazy Bob

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Nov 1, 2005, 12:00:45 AM11/1/05
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"Impossible" <anyone_...@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Krazy Bob" <@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Mby9f.4030$S24.2...@news.xtra.co.nz...
>> Hey guys, im having problems with my comp running at 100% all the time
>> for no apparent reason.
>>
>> it all started last night when I tried playing battlefield 2 and it kept
>> freezing on me.
>> then I noticed my anti virus (avast) doing its "scanning" but scanning
>> what I don't know.
>>
>> i've rebooted atleast 10 times, and every time it loads up it goes
>> straight to 100 and never drops. my task manager says ashservice.exe is
>> the memory hogger which is part of the antivirus.
>>
>> attempts to shut down the antivirus have failed by causing the computer
>> to become unresponsive.
>> its taken me 23mins to load up windows, open OE express. click news
>> groups, open new post and type this out.
>>
>> What do you guys think could be happening??
>> I've done a virus scan and it came up clean, can't do spyware search
>> because the comps already at 100%.
>>
>> any suggestions greatly appreciated
>>
>
> What OS? What CPU speed? How much memory? Anti-virus programs can be
OS: xp pro sp2
CPU: Amd Barton 2500+ OC'd 3200+
1024MB Dual Channel Ram

But thing is..ive had the same system startup up for months and months no
probs, then all of a sudden, Comp is running 100% all the time!

Thanks for the above advice...will try it out and see what happens

Cheers
KB


Krazy Bob

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Nov 1, 2005, 12:02:43 AM11/1/05
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"Jekyll and Hyde" <Jekyll and Hy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Have no process under that name running.

The only process thats taking 99-100 of cpu according to task manager is
ashserv.exe which ive checked is avast antivirus software module
disabling this, causes the comp to become un responsive

Cheers
KB

Krazy Bob

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Nov 1, 2005, 12:06:13 AM11/1/05
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"XP" <x...@nospam.comn> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:35:52 +1300, Peter <pet...@parazzdise.net.nz>
> wrote:
>
> Only Lunatics Use Lunix..
>
Please dont turn this into a windows / lunix debate


Bruce Knox

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Nov 1, 2005, 1:06:06 AM11/1/05
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:24:31 -0500, "Impossible"
<anyone_...@nospamhere.com> wrote:

...


>BTW, the only mention of "ashservice" that I can find on Google refers
>to some catch-all search portal. That's not a good sign. Are you sure
>that the correct name of your av module is ashservice.exe? If not,
>include that in the list of programs you intitially disable.
>

Hi,
I run avast and just checked my task list. The av is
AshServ.exe not AshService.exe. The other components running have
similar trunkated names. What happens when you kill it from ctrl alt
del. If you cant kill it try setting it to a very low priority to see
what happens (right click on task list).

Bruce.
Bruce http://www.baggins.co.nz
http://physio.otago.ac.nz

and Hyde@gmail.com Jekyll and Hyde

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Nov 1, 2005, 1:17:37 AM11/1/05
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"Krazy Bob" <@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Oh, ok. Uninstall your Avast anti virus then (removing the ashserv.exe
process) and use AVG instead...
http://www.grisoft.com/doc/40/lng/us/tpl/tpl01

I've seen similar problems with anti virus products where they just get
fubar'ed and choke the system (Panda, Sophos).

Jekyll and Hyde.


Krazy Bob

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Nov 1, 2005, 1:58:28 AM11/1/05
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"Bruce Knox" <br...@baggins.co.co.nz.nz> wrote in message
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Yea bruce, i realised my mistake when i went back and looked at the full
name.
when i ctrl-alt delete and terminate it, the computer becomes unresponsive.
nothing will work, i.e. clicking on desktop icons does nothing and only
possible solution is to restart and have to deal with same thing again.

i have at the moment stoped the "standard shield" from running which has
sorta fixed the problem of my cpu running at 100%
i have run two scans one with through and one standard both with enable
archive scanning, nil nasties found, same goes with spybot and ad-aware.

im at a loss at whats going on.
maybe might have to uninstall avast and re install again
but i really don't have time to do that *sigh*

thanks for posting bruce

KB


Krazy Bob

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Nov 1, 2005, 2:00:55 AM11/1/05
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"Jekyll and Hyde" <Jekyll and Hy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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i used to have AVG, but i got a really nasty worm *cant remeber the name*
and had AVG up to date and somehow it still yet it in and then couldn't
remove it
so i gave up, whats the point if it cant remove it/ delete it/ or heal it
:-S

Avast up to this point has been **great**

Cheers anyway
KB

thingy

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Nov 1, 2005, 2:55:53 AM11/1/05
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I did some googling, some viruses attack anti-virus software and
disable, but this looks unlikely.

I would suggest un-installing ths software, reboot and re-install.

Personally while running games I think anti-virus stuff should be
disabled, it robs CPU cycles and can crash games, ymmv.

If it still occurs un-install and install clamav (free) and scan.

Then get an anti-spybot piece of software (free ones are good enough),
also consider something like zonealarm and set it to monitor/alarm on
outbound traffic as well as inbound.

If it all looks clean move back to the one you like, if it does it
again, find something else, my prefernce is Clamav.

regards

Thing

hug...@seznam.cz

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Nov 1, 2005, 3:41:33 AM11/1/05
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Why don't just you post your question to the official avast antivirus
support forum http://forum.avast.com ? The staff is very friendly and
responsive and I'm sure they'll find a quick solution to the problem!


Cheers
Hugo

Krazy Bob

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Nov 1, 2005, 3:53:01 AM11/1/05
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<hug...@seznam.cz> wrote in message
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> Why don't just you post your question to the official avast antivirus
> support forum http://forum.avast.com ? The staff is very friendly and
> responsive and I'm sure they'll find a quick solution to the problem!

because i wasn't 100% entirely sure it was a avast problem.
ive managed to disable the standard shield and get my cpu back to normal
but im still getting terrible ping times now in game when i should only be
getting 60-70 im on 2mb plan also. so something is also robbing bandwidth,
but neither av scan or ad-aware or spybot or microsoft anti-spyware beta
prog has picked up anything....

cheers anyway
KB
>
> Cheers
> Hugo
>


Enkidu

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Nov 1, 2005, 4:36:56 AM11/1/05
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Long ping times are not directly related to bandwidth. It's
like a relatively empty road. You won't get from A to B and
back any quicker if the road is expanded to four lanes. It's
only the roadabouts (routers) that cause traffic to queue,
and they are generally somewhere down the road.

Broadband is like a four lane highway to your door. The
bottleneck is more likely to be how fast you can get cars
(packets) onto the road that is going to slow the traffic
down *but* once a car gets going it is only the external
events over which you have that will slow its return.

In other words, even flooding your available bandwidth
*probably* won't seriously affect your ping times.

If I were you I'd get another virus checker (temporarily) to
double check avast, and I'd probably get a second spyware
checker too.

Cheers,

Cliff

--

Barzoomian the Martian - http://barzoomian.blogspot.com

Impossible

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Nov 1, 2005, 9:50:56 AM11/1/05
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"Krazy Bob" <@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Following the suggestion to check the Avast site, I think you'll find
that if you've disabled "standard shield", which is the real-time scan
for trouble, then you're no longer protected at all. That can't be
good. Also, Avast seems to be incompatible with certain other
programs, leading to exactly the symptoms you describe. You might
want to check whether you're currently running any of those programs.


Krazy Bob

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Nov 1, 2005, 8:25:45 PM11/1/05
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"Krazy Bob" <@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Following avast forums, one guy whos had the same problem as ive described
said it was a clash with MS anti spyware error logs and that scanning these
logs hogs the cpu. i guess only way to get around that is to delete these
logs

KB
>


Dave Taylor

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Nov 1, 2005, 11:53:17 PM11/1/05
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"Krazy Bob" <@gmail.com> wrote in news:tAU9f.201$xD6....@news.xtra.co.nz:

> i guess only way to get around that is to delete these
> logs
>

Configure AV to not scan them...

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Ciao, Dave

Krazy Bob

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"Dave Taylor" <dave...@nospamplshotmail.com> wrote in message
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Reading my posts from the avast forums, thats what was suggested and has so
far worked *fingers crossed* but i still cant explain why after 6 months of
it working fine, has it started to play up now

KB


LadyMel

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Dec 3, 2005, 10:39:38 PM12/3/05
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My fathers computer had nearly the same problem only for me trying to
fix it TaskManager told me that svchost.exe was the hog - end task it,
and then explorer.exe jumped to 99%

I had to uninstall Nortons, and tried to copy fresh svchost.exe to
windows/system32 - what a nightmare, even in DOS.

Google had millions of hits with search (CPU 100%)
After wasting six hours I reinstalled windows. Major pain in the neck.

Steven H

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Dec 3, 2005, 11:41:12 PM12/3/05
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Hello LadyMel,

> svchost.exe was the hog - end task it,
> and then explorer.exe jumped to 99%

svchost.exe is a generic host process name for services that run from dynamic-link
libraries, what that means to you is that you shouldnt really be randomally
killing it as it is a part of the Windows operating system.

the reason why explorer.exe 'jumped to 99%' is that you killed a system process,
a process that is used by all parts of the system in its daily running.

iirc the only way to kill svchost is if you are logged in as an administrator,
please tell me that you dont run your machine on a daily basis running as
admin ?

> I had to uninstall Nortons, and tried to copy fresh svchost.exe to
> windows/system32 - what a nightmare, even in DOS.

im not really surprised that 'replacing' svchost didnt fix the problem.

the reason is that svchost is just a 'container' (for lack of a better word)

an example: a developer needs to write an application that runs when the
operating system loads reguardless if there is anybody loged into the console
this is called a 'service' (google 'windows services').

these 'services' are loaded by the Windows operating system via instances
of svchost - meaning that it wasnt really svchost that was causing you problems,
it was a service that it was *trying* to run.

if it happens again, post here and hopefully somebody can give a clue

----------------
Steven H

the madGeek


Dave Taylor

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Dec 3, 2005, 11:56:05 PM12/3/05
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Steven H <ste...@wontWork.com> wrote in news:f6ca206015f9d8c7c7110ffd5c30
@news.dun.ihug.co.nz:

> meaning that it wasnt really svchost that was causing you problems,
> it was a service that it was *trying* to run.
>

The event log probably would have had some clues.

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Ciao, Dave

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Murray Symon

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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:53:40 +1300, Mr Undeniably Sluttish wrote:

> On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:39:38 +1300, LadyMel wrote:
>
>> Google had millions of hits with search (CPU 100%) After wasting six
>> hours I reinstalled windows. Major pain in the neck.
>

> LOL!
>
> And you still use Micro$oft Windoze!
>
> What would it take to cause you to wean yourself off your addiction to
> Micro$oft software?
>
>
> Undeniably Sluttish

... and you're still using it too, aren't you?

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Kiwi

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Dec 4, 2005, 2:14:52 AM12/4/05
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I use either Free BSD or Red Hat Linux as an O/S on the systems that I
work on every day at work (boxes running telephony applications) and
they are great. I also used SCO Unix until recently at work too.

In my early computing days, I also used to create programs in
assembler on CP/M for Z80 based machines.

At home I do a lot of video editing, using Pinnacle Studio. Currently
they don't have a *nix version available, so I use Windows. If they
did, I would probably consider setting up a Linux box on the network.

Really it comes down to "horses for courses," so every O/S has its
place.

Saying "My O/S is better than yours, seems a bit childish. Even old
O/S's like LDOS have their uses, given the relevant applications.

Cheers, Kiwi.

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David

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Dec 4, 2005, 7:24:38 PM12/4/05
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LadyMel wrote:
> My fathers computer had nearly the same problem only for me trying to
> fix it TaskManager told me that svchost.exe was the hog - end task it,
> and then explorer.exe jumped to 99%

svchost.exe is a generic process which runs services, which can be
anything. Use Process Explorer to see what services are running in that
instance of svchost.exe, then use services.msc to stop/disable this
service (if it is non-essential) and see if that helps.

>
> I had to uninstall Nortons, and tried to copy fresh svchost.exe to
> windows/system32 - what a nightmare, even in DOS.

Yes, umm, you shouldn't do that. (if this is XP, and i'm assuming it is,
Windows File Protection will warn you if there is anything wrong with
system files)

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