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Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] How to build a sensor that senses RFIDs?
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I am not sure if this is relevant but I came across the OpenBeacon Active
RFID Project earlier today

http://www.openbeacon.org/

I heard it mentioned in the "Design of a Wireless EMG" talk at lasts years
The Next Hope conference.

http://thenexthope.org/talks-list/

Dallas

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On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Paul Strohmeier
<paul.strohme...@gmail.com>wrote:

> you can definitivly create you own sensors and just hook them up to an
> arduino. i remember seeing some kind of tutorial on how to build them. you
> may want to try google....
>
> - sent from android device -
> On Dec 13, 2011 8:14 PM, "Adelle Lin" <adelle....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmm.. thanks Derek, so you think an arduino sensor + RF combo might not
>> be enough for a short distance system?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:10 PM, derek enos <derek.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This ZOMM is a powered device that communicates with the phone via a
>>> Bluetooth transceiver.  It likely uses signal strength or link status
>>> information to determine whether it's within range of the phone.
>>>
>>> There are a number of low-cost RF transceivers that you could use to
>>> construct a similar system that tracks multiple items but, like the zomm
>>> which contains a rechargeable battery, it would require that each sensor be
>>> powered.
>>>
>>> I have little experience with RFID but suspect that its effective range
>>> using passive sensors may be insufficient for your application.
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Adelle Lin <adelle....@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, that's exactly what I want to try to build but being able to tag
>>>> any number of items using RFIDs, any ideas what sensors and tags I need to
>>>> get started?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Adelle
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:04 PM, mixi plizik <mixi.plit...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fyi, check out this link you may get some ideas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/08/zomm-wireless-leash-plus-speaks-up-for-a
>>>>> bandoned-iphones-video/<http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/08/zomm-wireless-leash-plus-speaks-up-for-abandoned-iphones-video/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/12/11 5:20 PM, "Adelle Lin" <adelle....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >Hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I'm a bit of a beginner at Arduino - i.e. have just soldered my
>>>>> >Freeduino board and am looking to begin on my first project - "lost
>>>>> >and found"
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I'd like to build a device that helps you keep track of your personal
>>>>> >objects (I lost stuff all the time). I haven't worked out the
>>>>> >specifics yet but I'd broadly like to build a central device that
>>>>> >senses objects such as a phone, or hat, or keys (maybe using an RFID
>>>>> >tag?) within a certain distance that will flash a light of make a
>>>>> >buzzer sound if something leaves that perimeter.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >If any body has ideas on what specific sensors and RFIDs I require to
>>>>> >get started that would be really really appreciated!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Thanks,
>>>>> >Adelle
>>>>> >
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I am not sure if this is relevant but I came across the OpenBeacon Active R=
FID Project earlier today<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#22=
2222" face=3D"Verdana, Arial, &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;"><span class=3D"Apple-=
style-span" style=3D"font-size:11px"><br>
</span></font><div><a href=3D"http://www.openbeacon.org/">http://www.openbe=
acon.org/</a></div><div><br></div><div>I heard it mentioned in the &quot;De=
sign of a Wireless EMG&quot; talk at lasts years The Next Hope conference.<=
/div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://thenexthope.org/talks-list/">http://t=
henexthope.org/talks-list/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Dallas</div><div><b=
r></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#47443a" face=3D"Tah=
oma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=
=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px"><b><br>
</b></span></font></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 13,=
 2011 at 2:29 PM, Paul Strohmeier <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:p=
aul.strohme...@gmail.com">paul.strohme...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>you can definitivly create you own sensor=
s and just hook them up to an arduino. i remember seeing some kind of tutor=
ial on how to build them. you may want to try google....</p>

<p>- sent from android device -</p><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Dec 13, 2011 8:14 PM, &quot;Adelle Lin&quot; =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adelle....@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">adelle.lin@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">

Hmm.. thanks Derek, so you think an arduino sensor + RF combo might not be =
enough for a short distance system?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tu=
e, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:10 PM, derek enos <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:derek.e...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">derek.e...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This ZOMM is a powered device that communica=
tes with the phone via a Bluetooth transceiver. =A0It likely uses signal st=
rength or link status information to determine whether it&#39;s within rang=
e of the phone.<div>


<br></div>

<div>There are a number of low-cost RF transceivers that you could use to c=
onstruct a similar system that tracks multiple items but, like the zomm whi=
ch contains a rechargeable battery, it would require that each sensor be po=
wered.<br>




<div><br></div><div>I have little experience with RFID but suspect that its=
 effective range using passive sensors may be insufficient for your applica=
tion.</div><div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><div>Derek</div>
</font></span><div><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Adelle Lin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:adelle....@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">adelle....@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">




Yes, that&#39;s exactly what I want to try to build but being able to tag a=
ny number of items using RFIDs, any ideas what sensors and tags I need to g=
et started?<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Adelle<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">





On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:04 PM, mixi plizik <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:mixi.plit...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mixi.plit...@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





Fyi, check out this link you may get some ideas<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/08/zomm-wireless-leash-plus-spea=
ks-up-for-abandoned-iphones-video/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.engadget.c=
om/2011/12/08/zomm-wireless-leash-plus-speaks-up-for-a<br>
bandoned-iphones-video/</a><br>
<div><div><br>
<br>
On 12/12/11 5:20 PM, &quot;Adelle Lin&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adelle.li=
n...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">adelle....@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I&#39;m a bit of a beginner at Arduino - i.e. have just soldered my<br>
&gt;Freeduino board and am looking to begin on my first project - &quot;los=
t<br>
&gt;and found&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I&#39;d like to build a device that helps you keep track of your person=
al<br>
&gt;objects (I lost stuff all the time). I haven&#39;t worked out the<br>
&gt;specifics yet but I&#39;d broadly like to build a central device that<b=
r>
&gt;senses objects such as a phone, or hat, or keys (maybe using an RFID<br=
>
&gt;tag?) within a certain distance that will flash a light of make a<br>
&gt;buzzer sound if something leaves that perimeter.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;If any body has ideas on what specific sensors and RFIDs I require to<b=
r>
&gt;get started that would be really really appreciated!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks,<br>
&gt;Adelle<br>
&gt;<br>
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