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Eric Berger  
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 More options Oct 19 2012, 10:14 am
From: "Eric Berger" <ericb...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:15:41 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 19 2012 10:15 am
Subject: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

Anyone familiar with this item?
http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2012/08/22/arduino-lab-by-hobbylab/

Has anyone ever seen or used one, and if so would it be a good, cheap LA for
a rookie circuit bender to play with or a waste of $40?  Also, (rookie
question)is it an appropriate question to ask if there's a minimum type of
Arduino required, or is one as good as another?  I'd like to use it to mess
around with some small breadboard circuit experimenting.  Don't think it
comes with absolutely anything except the shield itself; no connectors,
etc., nothing.

Thanks,

Eric

p.s. - thanks again for the interesting Arduino class last weekend - was
fun.


 
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Bill French  
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 More options Oct 20 2012, 10:02 am
From: Bill French <william.fre...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 07:02:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 20 2012 10:02 am
Subject: Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

I've never seen that, but it's actually pretty cool!  One draw back is that
it's fairly specific to using it with the arduino ... I don't know that I'd
want that to be someone's first analyzer.

Too bad they didn't add some headers so you could hook up probes and use it
standalone for any kind of circuit:

http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/logic-shrimp-probe-cable-p-837.html?...

Also, Dangerous Prototypes has a nice logic
analyzer: http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/open-workbench-logic-sniffer-p-612.h...


 
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Eric Berger  
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 More options Oct 20 2012, 5:13 pm
From: "Eric Berger" <ericb...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:12:47 -0400
Local: Sat, Oct 20 2012 5:12 pm
Subject: RE: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

Bill,

Wow, I just read your replay and I think I'm really glad I asked.  So, the
Arduino lab works ONLY with an Arduino then, only telling me the status of
the pins of the attached Arduino?  That is definitely not what I thought it
was for.  I figured on getting a cheap logic analyzer and hooking it up to
some basic 555 timer chip experiments, for example, just to learn and watch
the pins go high and low on those basic chips and others.  The cheapest
alternative after that is a $700+ rigol ds1000 series with la built in.  So,
you think that the Dangerous Prototype board with a couple or the probe
cables is more what I'm looking for?  Otherwise $700+ is a bit expensive for
a toy.  Ever work with the Dangerous Proto board or other, cheaper,
alternatives?  I just ordered something else from Seeed Studios and let me
tell you, they are NOT the fastest shippers :-)

-e

Eric

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Subject: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

I've never seen that, but it's actually pretty cool!  One draw back is that
it's fairly specific to using it with the arduino ... I don't know that I'd
want that to be someone's first analyzer.

Too bad they didn't add some headers so you could hook up probes and use it
standalone for any kind of circuit:

http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/logic-shrimp-probe-cable-p-837.html?...
78_180

Also, Dangerous Prototypes has a nice logic analyzer:
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/open-workbench-logic-sniffer-p-612.h...
th=174

On Friday, October 19, 2012 10:14:49 AM UTC-4, Eric B. wrote:

Anyone familiar with this item?  http://www.adafruit.com/blog/
<http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2012/08/22/arduino-lab-by-hobbylab/>
2012/08/22/arduino-lab-by-hobbylab/

Has anyone ever seen or used one, and if so would it be a good, cheap LA for
a rookie circuit bender to play with or a waste of $40?  Also, (rookie
question)is it an appropriate question to ask if there's a minimum type of
Arduino required, or is one as good as another?  I'd like to use it to mess
around with some small breadboard circuit experimenting.  Don't think it
comes with absolutely anything except the shield itself; no connectors,
etc., nothing.

Thanks,

Eric

p.s. - thanks again for the interesting Arduino class last weekend - was
fun.

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 More options Oct 20 2012, 5:19 pm
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:18:57 -0400
Local: Sat, Oct 20 2012 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

I don't think it is an arduino-specific logic analyzer (I'm not even sure
how that would be possible), it is just in the form-factor of an arduino
shield. It acts as a pass-through board that can plug in between an arduino
and another shield, and lets you spy on all of the signals. If you plug
wires from a breadboard into the female headers, it looks like you can use
it to spy on whatever you would like (speed/bandwidth/voltage limits apply,
of course).


 
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Robert Cohen  
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 More options Oct 20 2012, 6:49 pm
From: Robert Cohen <rob_co...@me.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:21 -0700
Local: Sat, Oct 20 2012 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

How about this:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/920064946/xprotolab-portable

Seems to be what you'd be looking for.

Rob

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Bill French  
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 More options Oct 21 2012, 9:37 am
From: Bill French <william.fre...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:37:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Oct 21 2012 9:37 am
Subject: Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

Yeah, just to be clear, i would guess it would work "stand alone" but it's
really designed to fit on an arduino and sniff those signals.  The
xprotolab device looks cool.

Lots of folks have and like the Saleae analyzers:
 http://www.saleae.com/logic16?gclid=CI2t2L-ckrMCFe1xOgodj2wAwg

They are more expensive but quite luxurious.


 
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Michael Shiloh  
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 More options Oct 21 2012, 10:23 am
From: Michael Shiloh <m.shi...@arduino.cc>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 07:23:01 -0700
Local: Sun, Oct 21 2012 10:23 am
Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer
You know, if you just want to play and learn with one, I'll bet you
could do something straight with Arduino. If you're analyzing something
like a 555 circuit at audio frequencies this might be sufficient.

Couple that with Processing and add a couple of traces to the graph
example and you're almost done

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Dan Lavin  
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 More options Oct 22 2012, 7:53 pm
From: Dan Lavin <dan...@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:53:09 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 22 2012 7:53 pm
Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer
The Arduino hobbylab device looks very much like the sadly discontinued
BS2 logic analyzer I got years ago.  It was intended to work only with
the Basic Stamp but, was based on the USBEE chip. Once powered, it could
read any input line without the presence of the BS2, so I set it up as a
standalone device and use it that way.

I found have found my BS2 logic analyzer a useful tool, especially for
decoding serial streams, which you can't do on a scope (or at least one
I can afford).

The manual for the hobbylab device suggests a decent tool, but I suggest
downloading and installing the software to check whether it meets your
needs.

Incidentally, I picked up an Xpropotolab device to use without a
computer, but have not put it to work yet.  Its input voltage maximum is
3.3, or 5 with user supplied voltage dividers.

If you don't have a access to a scope, or if you plan to work with
serial data, I would get the hobbylab device.

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 More options Oct 25 2012, 5:54 pm
From: Nick Geller <gell...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:54:29 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

After reading this thread and doing a bit of research. I found another
model that's more expensive ($149) but seems to offer 2 things which i
didn't like about the other options:

1. better sampling rate
2. a mac os ide ( the first product has windows only ide version and the
other [i derived this from comments] a jvm bloat-ware (tee-hee).

So this is what I would get:

http://www.saleae.com/logic

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Ian Harris  
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 More options Oct 25 2012, 8:07 pm
From: Ian Harris <imhar...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:06:44 +1100
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

I use that one. One of the absolute best purchases I have ever made and
wish I'd done it years ago.

On 26 Oct 2012, at 08:54, Nick Geller <gell...@gmail.com> wrote:

After reading this thread and doing a bit of research. I found another
model that's more expensive ($149) but seems to offer 2 things which i
didn't like about the other options:

1. better sampling rate
2. a mac os ide ( the first product has windows only ide version and the
other [i derived this from comments] a jvm bloat-ware (tee-hee).

So this is what I would get:

http://www.saleae.com/logic

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 More options Oct 26 2012, 8:14 am
From: "Eric Berger" <ericb...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:15:35 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 8:15 am
Subject: RE: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

Yea, the Salea looks sweet.  I'll have to decide whether or not the Salea is
worth the price for me as an experimental  plaything (toy J ) for now, or
order the cheaper device from Seeed, but wait a month + for it to arrive L .
. .

-e

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To: nycresistormicrocontrollers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

After reading this thread and doing a bit of research. I found another model
that's more expensive ($149) but seems to offer 2 things which i didn't like
about the other options:

1. better sampling rate

2. a mac os ide ( the first product has windows only ide version and the
other [i derived this from comments] a jvm bloat-ware (tee-hee).

So this is what I would get:

http://www.saleae.com/logic

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Dan Lavin <dan...@verizon.net> wrote:

The Arduino hobbylab device looks very much like the sadly discontinued BS2
logic analyzer I got years ago.  It was intended to work only with the Basic
Stamp but, was based on the USBEE chip. Once powered, it could read any
input line without the presence of the BS2, so I set it up as a standalone
device and use it that way.

I found have found my BS2 logic analyzer a useful tool, especially for
decoding serial streams, which you can't do on a scope (or at least one I
can afford).

The manual for the hobbylab device suggests a decent tool, but I suggest
downloading and installing the software to check whether it meets your
needs.

Incidentally, I picked up an Xpropotolab device to use without a computer,
but have not put it to work yet.  Its input voltage maximum is 3.3, or 5
with user supplied voltage dividers.

If you don't have a access to a scope, or if you plan to work with serial
data, I would get the hobbylab device.

On 10/21/2012 10:23 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote:

You know, if you just want to play and learn with one, I'll bet you could do
something straight with Arduino. If you're analyzing something like a 555
circuit at audio frequencies this might be sufficient.

Couple that with Processing and add a couple of traces to the graph example
and you're almost done

On 10/21/2012 06:37 AM, Bill French wrote:

Yeah, just to be clear, i would guess it would work "stand alone" but it's
really designed to fit on an arduino and sniff those signals. The
xprotolab device looks cool.

Lots of folks have and like the Saleae analyzers:
  http://www.saleae.com/logic16?gclid=CI2t2L-ckrMCFe1xOgodj2wAwg

They are more expensive but quite luxurious.

On Friday, October 19, 2012 10:14:49 AM UTC-4, Eric B. wrote:

Anyone familiar with this item?
http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2012/08/22/arduino-lab-by-hobbylab/

Has anyone ever seen or used one, and if so would it be a good, cheap LA
for a rookie circuit bender to play with or a waste of $40? Also, (rookie
question)is it an appropriate question to ask if there's a minimum type of
Arduino required, or is one as good as another?  I'd like to use it to mess
around with some small breadboard circuit experimenting. Don't think it
comes with absolutely anything except the shield itself; no connectors,
etc., nothing.

Thanks,

Eric

p.s. - thanks again for the interesting Arduino class last weekend - was
fun.

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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:35:54 -0400
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Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

Here's another possibility; it provides scope capability as well as a
logic analyzer.

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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:49:21 +0200
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 8:49 am
Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer

have not looked at the exact specs, but maybe this is interesting? :

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/920064946/xprotolab-portable

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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:03:43 -0400
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Subject: Re: [NYCR:Microcontrollers] Re: Hobbylab Arduino lab Logic Analyzer
In my experience, software trumps hardware with these things. The Saleae
unit has really nice, intuitive lovely software. It moves quick and
makes reasonable sense. Also, it's on all three major OS flavors.

SUMP makes me want to slit my wrists.

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